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300CE Turbodiesel

300CE Turbodiesel

 
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pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
11-22-2012, 03:02 PM #1
i'm rebuilding 300ce -88.

Almost all of the bodywork is done, some little rust fixing still to do and paint job.

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Bilstein Sprint B8 shocks and H&R -30mm springs

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Motor is going to be original om606 turbo with little changes.

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exhaust manifold

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Holset HX55 turbo and 60mm wastegate

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4'' Downpipe and rest of the pipe is going to be 3,5'' with one vibrant resonator

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intake manifold and 8mm herlevi pump.

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All aluminium Griffin radiator and cooler

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Cool
pena837
11-22-2012, 03:02 PM #1

i'm rebuilding 300ce -88.

Almost all of the bodywork is done, some little rust fixing still to do and paint job.

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Bilstein Sprint B8 shocks and H&R -30mm springs

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Motor is going to be original om606 turbo with little changes.

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exhaust manifold

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Holset HX55 turbo and 60mm wastegate

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4'' Downpipe and rest of the pipe is going to be 3,5'' with one vibrant resonator

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intake manifold and 8mm herlevi pump.

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All aluminium Griffin radiator and cooler

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Cool

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-22-2012, 04:18 PM #2
Cool project!! But why go with a such a big turbo, takes ages to get it to spool....?? Or are you building a 700hp engine?
EDH_Performance
11-22-2012, 04:18 PM #2

Cool project!! But why go with a such a big turbo, takes ages to get it to spool....?? Or are you building a 700hp engine?

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
11-22-2012, 11:47 PM #3
to get high hp . We will see how it spools, exhaust housing is not that huge in this turbo, as usual in these sizes, so hopefully it works good . of course it depends how my exhaust manifold etc. works
pena837
11-22-2012, 11:47 PM #3

to get high hp . We will see how it spools, exhaust housing is not that huge in this turbo, as usual in these sizes, so hopefully it works good . of course it depends how my exhaust manifold etc. works

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
11-24-2012, 12:48 PM #4
Very nice projectSmile Is the turbo exhaust house 16cm2?
Will it pass inspection with diesel engine in Finland?
Please keep us updated with more photos

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
11-24-2012, 12:48 PM #4

Very nice projectSmile Is the turbo exhaust house 16cm2?
Will it pass inspection with diesel engine in Finland?
Please keep us updated with more photos


HuhCoolTongue

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
11-24-2012, 01:46 PM #5
(11-24-2012, 12:48 PM)erling66 Very nice projectSmile Is the turbo exhaust house 16cm2?
Will it pass inspection with diesel engine in Finland?
Please keep us updated with more photos

yes it is 16. inspection is not a problem, i just need to have dyno evidence that it doesn't have more than 180hp so i it will pass the inspection with 300e original brakes etc.
pena837
11-24-2012, 01:46 PM #5

(11-24-2012, 12:48 PM)erling66 Very nice projectSmile Is the turbo exhaust house 16cm2?
Will it pass inspection with diesel engine in Finland?
Please keep us updated with more photos

yes it is 16. inspection is not a problem, i just need to have dyno evidence that it doesn't have more than 180hp so i it will pass the inspection with 300e original brakes etc.

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
11-27-2012, 02:37 AM #6
couple hours in garage yesterday and boost pipes are ready

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pena837
11-27-2012, 02:37 AM #6

couple hours in garage yesterday and boost pipes are ready

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Bangaway
606 Turbo > Porsche Turbo

129
12-02-2012, 02:56 PM #7
What model is that Griffin radiator and cooler?
Bangaway
12-02-2012, 02:56 PM #7

What model is that Griffin radiator and cooler?

Ksteen2
Holset

304
12-03-2012, 05:29 AM #8
Niiice Wink
I'll watch this closely, hope it works smack Wink
If only we could pass inspetions i here in norway with those specs..
to hell with the pottato norwegian state..
had been so easy Wink
Ksteen2
12-03-2012, 05:29 AM #8

Niiice Wink
I'll watch this closely, hope it works smack Wink
If only we could pass inspetions i here in norway with those specs..
to hell with the pottato norwegian state..
had been so easy Wink

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
12-07-2012, 02:28 PM #9
(12-02-2012, 02:56 PM)BigAssCFotPrint What model is that Griffin radiator and cooler?

i dont remember the model, called one dealer here in finland and ordered radiator that fits mb w124 Big Grin somekind DIY, you have to make brackets yourself. and cooler in 450x300 china cooler.
pena837
12-07-2012, 02:28 PM #9

(12-02-2012, 02:56 PM)BigAssCFotPrint What model is that Griffin radiator and cooler?

i dont remember the model, called one dealer here in finland and ordered radiator that fits mb w124 Big Grin somekind DIY, you have to make brackets yourself. and cooler in 450x300 china cooler.

Bangaway
606 Turbo > Porsche Turbo

129
01-15-2013, 06:58 PM #10
Any updates with the project?
Bangaway
01-15-2013, 06:58 PM #10

Any updates with the project?

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
01-22-2013, 02:34 AM #11
no, snowmobile season slows this project in wintertime.
pena837
01-22-2013, 02:34 AM #11

no, snowmobile season slows this project in wintertime.

mantahead
Holset

600
01-22-2013, 07:50 AM #12
hi,
nice project, what size of piping did you use on your exhaust manifold?
mantahead
01-22-2013, 07:50 AM #12

hi,
nice project, what size of piping did you use on your exhaust manifold?

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
01-25-2013, 02:43 PM #13
42mm/38mm
pena837
01-25-2013, 02:43 PM #13

42mm/38mm

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-25-2013, 11:18 PM #14
Great build! Thank you for sharing the intercooler details.
raysorenson
01-25-2013, 11:18 PM #14

Great build! Thank you for sharing the intercooler details.

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
10-22-2013, 03:02 AM #15
low boost testing,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcJGlZb3Q...e=youtu.be
mantahead
Holset

600
10-22-2013, 03:21 PM #16
sounds awesome, what do you call low boost?Big Grin
mantahead
10-22-2013, 03:21 PM #16

sounds awesome, what do you call low boost?Big Grin

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
10-22-2013, 03:24 PM #17
2,5bar
pena837
10-22-2013, 03:24 PM #17

2,5bar

mantahead
Holset

600
10-22-2013, 04:08 PM #18
Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin
mantahead
10-22-2013, 04:08 PM #18

Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

Tito
Holset

354
10-23-2013, 01:06 AM #19
after hearing that it sucks that i can't see any pictures Undecided
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Tito
10-23-2013, 01:06 AM #19

after hearing that it sucks that i can't see any pictures Undecided

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
10-23-2013, 01:34 AM #20
http://pena837.kuvat.fi/

there you can find almost all the project pics
pena837
10-23-2013, 01:34 AM #20

http://pena837.kuvat.fi/

there you can find almost all the project pics

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
10-23-2013, 08:19 AM #21
I couldn't hardly see from the pics, but how does your wastegate bleed off all cylinders with your custom header?

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
10-23-2013, 08:19 AM #21

I couldn't hardly see from the pics, but how does your wastegate bleed off all cylinders with your custom header?


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
10-23-2013, 08:27 AM #22
(10-23-2013, 08:19 AM)MFSuper90 I couldn't hardly see from the pics, but how does your wastegate bleed off all cylinders with your custom header?

I saw that too...Not all sylinders goes trough the wg, only cyl 3 and 4!
Pressure drops but not all gasses will be wastegated^^
But it seems like it works, but not idealSmile
Sometimes you must comprimise due to tight spaceBig Grin
EDH_Performance
10-23-2013, 08:27 AM #22

(10-23-2013, 08:19 AM)MFSuper90 I couldn't hardly see from the pics, but how does your wastegate bleed off all cylinders with your custom header?

I saw that too...Not all sylinders goes trough the wg, only cyl 3 and 4!
Pressure drops but not all gasses will be wastegated^^
But it seems like it works, but not idealSmile
Sometimes you must comprimise due to tight spaceBig Grin

Ksteen2
Holset

304
10-24-2013, 02:55 AM #23
it drains all the cylinder, mabye not in he best way, but its a twin scroll flange, and waste gated from each side, so it should not be a problem ;p

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
10-24-2013, 02:55 AM #23

it drains all the cylinder, mabye not in he best way, but its a twin scroll flange, and waste gated from each side, so it should not be a problem ;p


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
02-18-2014, 04:47 AM #24
New intake manifold and boost pipes upgraded to 3''

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pena837
02-18-2014, 04:47 AM #24

New intake manifold and boost pipes upgraded to 3''

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maxypriest
Holset

287
02-18-2014, 07:14 AM #25
a work of art

W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
maxypriest
02-18-2014, 07:14 AM #25

a work of art


W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
02-18-2014, 05:40 PM #26
nice!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-18-2014, 05:40 PM #26

nice!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
08-31-2014, 04:34 AM #27
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new intake manifold worked good, so good that we found the limits of original rods Big Grin

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all rods are bend more or less, and 3rd let go for good, in 4th gear, full gas about 180-200km/h, quite a big bang Big Grin, still drove it to the garage with 5 cylinders.

Well, new engine is in the garage, lets make it stronger for next summer Wink
pena837
08-31-2014, 04:34 AM #27

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new intake manifold worked good, so good that we found the limits of original rods Big Grin

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all rods are bend more or less, and 3rd let go for good, in 4th gear, full gas about 180-200km/h, quite a big bang Big Grin, still drove it to the garage with 5 cylinders.

Well, new engine is in the garage, lets make it stronger for next summer Wink

mario
TA 0301

70
08-31-2014, 05:20 AM #28
Well if she drove to the garage she is some little trooper as what are the plans now
mario
08-31-2014, 05:20 AM #28

Well if she drove to the garage she is some little trooper as what are the plans now

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
08-31-2014, 10:50 AM #29
still thinking what to do, maybe smaller turbo and make it more ''daily driver'' but that would be little boring?? Big Grin

second option is , stronger rods, good main bearing ''girdle'' in bottom end, maybe update cylinder head more, and enjoy some serious power Big Grin but this option in going to be €€€€€€ so we will see..
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pena837
08-31-2014, 10:50 AM #29

still thinking what to do, maybe smaller turbo and make it more ''daily driver'' but that would be little boring?? Big Grin

second option is , stronger rods, good main bearing ''girdle'' in bottom end, maybe update cylinder head more, and enjoy some serious power Big Grin but this option in going to be €€€€€€ so we will see..

Keino
GT2256V

151
08-31-2014, 12:49 PM #30
@ how much boost pressure were you driving it after installing new intake manifold? Tongue
Keino
08-31-2014, 12:49 PM #30

@ how much boost pressure were you driving it after installing new intake manifold? Tongue

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
08-31-2014, 01:32 PM #31
Only about 2,5bar. I believe the rods bended at earlier tests when boost pressure got up to about 3,5bar (and 7000rpm) After 300km of test with those settings cold starts started to sound bad. When the engine warmed up to normal it did run good and no problems. Then few hundred km more this happened
pena837
08-31-2014, 01:32 PM #31

Only about 2,5bar. I believe the rods bended at earlier tests when boost pressure got up to about 3,5bar (and 7000rpm) After 300km of test with those settings cold starts started to sound bad. When the engine warmed up to normal it did run good and no problems. Then few hundred km more this happened

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
09-01-2014, 07:29 AM #32
Awesome, very well doccumented. and Very skilled fabrication work!




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
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Hario'
09-01-2014, 07:29 AM #32

Awesome, very well doccumented. and Very skilled fabrication work!





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

sorin_cel
5fingers on a hand, 5cylinders block

71
09-21-2014, 09:22 AM #33
if the rod got bented, and cylinder block smashed in half, that means it was some SERIOUS POWER over there.i'm curious to know if the 3,5bar boost caused that...Confused
sorin_cel
09-21-2014, 09:22 AM #33

if the rod got bented, and cylinder block smashed in half, that means it was some SERIOUS POWER over there.i'm curious to know if the 3,5bar boost caused that...Confused

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
09-27-2014, 01:36 PM #34
I dont think boost alone will make that happen. But HX55's airflow in 3,5bars + 7000rpm + alot of fuel all together can make little too much stress for original rods. Or maybe the earlier head gasket failure had something to do with this but i dont think so, gasket leaked only ''outside'' , when boost pressure raised up, gasket leaked it to cooling system and overpressured it so that radiator cap opened and coolant got out. Atleast i didnt find any signs of coolant in the cylinders when i pulled the head off...
pena837
09-27-2014, 01:36 PM #34

I dont think boost alone will make that happen. But HX55's airflow in 3,5bars + 7000rpm + alot of fuel all together can make little too much stress for original rods. Or maybe the earlier head gasket failure had something to do with this but i dont think so, gasket leaked only ''outside'' , when boost pressure raised up, gasket leaked it to cooling system and overpressured it so that radiator cap opened and coolant got out. Atleast i didnt find any signs of coolant in the cylinders when i pulled the head off...

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
09-30-2014, 06:50 AM #35
It's usually revs that overstresses reciprocating parts.

Looks like the conrod let go of the gudgeon pin while trying to decelerate the piston towards TDC..




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
09-30-2014, 06:50 AM #35

It's usually revs that overstresses reciprocating parts.

Looks like the conrod let go of the gudgeon pin while trying to decelerate the piston towards TDC..





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

mantahead
Holset

600
09-30-2014, 04:48 PM #36
she went with a bangCool

did the crank survive?

what make are the head studs?
mantahead
09-30-2014, 04:48 PM #36

she went with a bangCool

did the crank survive?

what make are the head studs?

pena837
Naturally-aspirated

18
10-01-2014, 01:17 AM #37
rod did made little marks in the cranks ''weights'' as you see in the picture.

Head studs are from akracing.fi
pena837
10-01-2014, 01:17 AM #37

rod did made little marks in the cranks ''weights'' as you see in the picture.

Head studs are from akracing.fi

mantahead
Holset

600
10-04-2014, 02:36 PM #38
hi,
what sort of power do you think you had??
was it high rpm that pulled the small end bearings apart and killed the engine?
mantahead
10-04-2014, 02:36 PM #38

hi,
what sort of power do you think you had??
was it high rpm that pulled the small end bearings apart and killed the engine?

 
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