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Hello. New here with a W220 400 CDI

Hello. New here with a W220 400 CDI

 
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firebird400
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09-07-2014, 05:57 PM #1
Hello.
I have been looking around the internet to see if I can find something about performance upgrades to a OM628 in a w220 S400 CDI and it looks like there are none what so ever besides a few chips on offer.

Are those engines so week that they don´t hold up to any mods or....

I know it is no sportscar but IMO everything can improve with a little more power.

Can you pitch in or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.
firebird400
09-07-2014, 05:57 PM #1

Hello.
I have been looking around the internet to see if I can find something about performance upgrades to a OM628 in a w220 S400 CDI and it looks like there are none what so ever besides a few chips on offer.

Are those engines so week that they don´t hold up to any mods or....

I know it is no sportscar but IMO everything can improve with a little more power.

Can you pitch in or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

firebird400
Naturally-aspirated

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09-08-2014, 03:02 PM #2
58 views and not a single comment. Huh

I was so hoping this forum would be the one that would set me on my way to hybrid turbo´s, enlarged intercoolers and nozzles and so on lol.

I´ll start with de-cats and a chip.
(chipmydiesel looked like they had a good one)

Wink
firebird400
09-08-2014, 03:02 PM #2

58 views and not a single comment. Huh

I was so hoping this forum would be the one that would set me on my way to hybrid turbo´s, enlarged intercoolers and nozzles and so on lol.

I´ll start with de-cats and a chip.
(chipmydiesel looked like they had a good one)

Wink

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
09-08-2014, 04:03 PM #3
Smile who in hell wants to play with a state car!!!
if u intend to continue with it do the same as we are doing with the smaller versions. ECU reprogram, BIG turbos, intake coolers thats it.
any way two gt 27´S , or this HX 35, exaust line 80mm dia , racing air filter . well there are a lot to do there.....
regards

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barrote
09-08-2014, 04:03 PM #3

Smile who in hell wants to play with a state car!!!
if u intend to continue with it do the same as we are doing with the smaller versions. ECU reprogram, BIG turbos, intake coolers thats it.
any way two gt 27´S , or this HX 35, exaust line 80mm dia , racing air filter . well there are a lot to do there.....
regards


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firebird400
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09-08-2014, 04:24 PM #4
(09-08-2014, 04:03 PM)barrote Smile who in hell wants to play with a state car!!!

ME Cool

I am in no way thinking of making a race car.
Just a little something extra.

My Porsche Cayenne Turbo is also a heavy car. Yet it has a remap and sec. cats removed and is all the more fun for it. It is still no race car.

My Land Rover 2.5 diesel also has a full full exhaust and other mods and is usable because of it.

Everything can be made a little better, a bit more lively and so on, and I am curious if anyone has done something to those engines. It also comes in the G and E class´s so there must be quite a few of them around.

Also, does the OM628 share parts with any 2 liter Mercedes engines?
It looks like it could very well be two 2.0 engines on a common crank.
You did mention smaller engines. Any of them perhaps the OM628 little brother?
firebird400
09-08-2014, 04:24 PM #4

(09-08-2014, 04:03 PM)barrote Smile who in hell wants to play with a state car!!!

ME Cool

I am in no way thinking of making a race car.
Just a little something extra.

My Porsche Cayenne Turbo is also a heavy car. Yet it has a remap and sec. cats removed and is all the more fun for it. It is still no race car.

My Land Rover 2.5 diesel also has a full full exhaust and other mods and is usable because of it.

Everything can be made a little better, a bit more lively and so on, and I am curious if anyone has done something to those engines. It also comes in the G and E class´s so there must be quite a few of them around.

Also, does the OM628 share parts with any 2 liter Mercedes engines?
It looks like it could very well be two 2.0 engines on a common crank.
You did mention smaller engines. Any of them perhaps the OM628 little brother?

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
09-09-2014, 03:22 AM #5
hy,
litle engine means, 5 6 cyl, and there are people here with diesel engines from the 60´s.
compared to a v8 300HP stock!
maybe a V engine is 2 engines in the same crankshaft, MB has one V8 with 2 crankshafts, dont know wich one is. and like that they share lot of things, probably u can go AMG specs using stuff from the 4,5,6´s cyl engines.
the problem is that V8 is quite a piece of engennering, it might be dificult just to blue print it, and have 50HP in the end.
CDI engines, humm limited RPM, computer limit, hardware limit.
regards.

FD,
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barrote
09-09-2014, 03:22 AM #5

hy,
litle engine means, 5 6 cyl, and there are people here with diesel engines from the 60´s.
compared to a v8 300HP stock!
maybe a V engine is 2 engines in the same crankshaft, MB has one V8 with 2 crankshafts, dont know wich one is. and like that they share lot of things, probably u can go AMG specs using stuff from the 4,5,6´s cyl engines.
the problem is that V8 is quite a piece of engennering, it might be dificult just to blue print it, and have 50HP in the end.
CDI engines, humm limited RPM, computer limit, hardware limit.
regards.


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Petar
7.5mm M pump

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09-09-2014, 08:26 AM #6
AFAIK the V8 cdi uses two smaller turbochargers i think GT1749V. You could use the bigger GT2359V turbochargers from the OM613 and have the injectors upgraded to AMG spec.
I don't know how big the stock intercooler is on the V8 is but the intercooler is a major bottleneck on the OM613. Bigger is better Big Grin
Of course this requires a custom remap.
Petar
09-09-2014, 08:26 AM #6

AFAIK the V8 cdi uses two smaller turbochargers i think GT1749V. You could use the bigger GT2359V turbochargers from the OM613 and have the injectors upgraded to AMG spec.
I don't know how big the stock intercooler is on the V8 is but the intercooler is a major bottleneck on the OM613. Bigger is better Big Grin
Of course this requires a custom remap.

firebird400
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09-09-2014, 11:38 AM #7
I had thought about gt1752 og 56 hybrids like the vw tdi guys are using. But I just don´t have the knowledge on turbos to understand what sort of changes I would be getting from larger compressors.
Besides, upgrading the turbos would be late on the list to do.

First attempt might look something like EGT meters, a boost meter, a free flowing exhaust, two water to air intercoolers from froozenboost with larger radiators and a chip tune. I do have access to a tuner but doubt I will get that involved. After all this is basically a limo. I can use my Pontiac if I want to go racing

I just did not know if the OM628 and 722.6 combo would hold up to any mods. Or like barrote mentioned if it even allowed it to messed with.
This post was last modified: 09-09-2014, 11:40 AM by firebird400.
firebird400
09-09-2014, 11:38 AM #7

I had thought about gt1752 og 56 hybrids like the vw tdi guys are using. But I just don´t have the knowledge on turbos to understand what sort of changes I would be getting from larger compressors.
Besides, upgrading the turbos would be late on the list to do.

First attempt might look something like EGT meters, a boost meter, a free flowing exhaust, two water to air intercoolers from froozenboost with larger radiators and a chip tune. I do have access to a tuner but doubt I will get that involved. After all this is basically a limo. I can use my Pontiac if I want to go racing

I just did not know if the OM628 and 722.6 combo would hold up to any mods. Or like barrote mentioned if it even allowed it to messed with.

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
09-09-2014, 11:44 AM #8
I've heard that the OM628 has a problematic timing chain. So i would replace it preventatively.
The bottom end should hold some extra power. I don't know if the 722.6 will hold stock but it can be upgraded to hold more than 1000 Nm
Petar
09-09-2014, 11:44 AM #8

I've heard that the OM628 has a problematic timing chain. So i would replace it preventatively.
The bottom end should hold some extra power. I don't know if the 722.6 will hold stock but it can be upgraded to hold more than 1000 Nm

 
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