STD Tuning Engine turbo for ~250hk ?

turbo for ~250hk ?

turbo for ~250hk ?

 
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MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-03-2015, 06:54 AM #1
Anyone have advice on turbo for 605 with 6mm ?
i want something that is a little bigger than the 606 turbo..
that is maxxed at maby 250hk?
dosent have to be bolt on , i can make an adapter.

the car is goint to be daily driver, and towing trailer.

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MrHope
01-03-2015, 06:54 AM #1

Anyone have advice on turbo for 605 with 6mm ?
i want something that is a little bigger than the 606 turbo..
that is maxxed at maby 250hk?
dosent have to be bolt on , i can make an adapter.

the car is goint to be daily driver, and towing trailer.


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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
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F.R.A.S
Holset

579
01-03-2015, 11:41 AM #2
If flange is no problem THIS turbo should be just fine for 250hp.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
01-03-2015, 11:41 AM #2

If flange is no problem THIS turbo should be just fine for 250hp.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

PedroFerreira
GTA2056V

98
01-03-2015, 01:23 PM #3
why not a vnt turbo? like 2559v
PedroFerreira
01-03-2015, 01:23 PM #3

why not a vnt turbo? like 2559v

MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-03-2015, 01:44 PM #4
the gt28 looks like something i could use!

And i vnt is interesting but i haven´t seen anyone make it work mecanicly on an old engine.

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MrHope
01-03-2015, 01:44 PM #4

the gt28 looks like something i could use!

And i vnt is interesting but i haven´t seen anyone make it work mecanicly on an old engine.


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barrote
Superturbo

1,627
01-03-2015, 05:47 PM #5
well ,
i have been there , i´m still there, and performing away too good. small issues but doing good , actually doing very good.
any question take a scream!!!
regards

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barrote
01-03-2015, 05:47 PM #5

well ,
i have been there , i´m still there, and performing away too good. small issues but doing good , actually doing very good.
any question take a scream!!!
regards


FD,
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MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-04-2015, 03:23 AM #6
Tell me more! =)

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MrHope
01-04-2015, 03:23 AM #6

Tell me more! =)


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barrote
Superturbo

1,627
01-04-2015, 02:49 PM #7
u take a VNT type turbine install it in your veicle , and thats it.
what is the big deal? Vanes control? easy, or u take the vanes in a static position where they produce the best result, and the engine becomes limited by high egt, and high rpm. or u take the motion path, wether by a vac controled actuator , or a pressure controled.
i have a presure controled at 1.8 Bar.
mores details only for detailed questions
regards.

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barrote
01-04-2015, 02:49 PM #7

u take a VNT type turbine install it in your veicle , and thats it.
what is the big deal? Vanes control? easy, or u take the vanes in a static position where they produce the best result, and the engine becomes limited by high egt, and high rpm. or u take the motion path, wether by a vac controled actuator , or a pressure controled.
i have a presure controled at 1.8 Bar.
mores details only for detailed questions
regards.


FD,
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starynovy
Holset

338
01-05-2015, 04:28 PM #8
What about HE221W? Not suggesting, asking.. I can have this turbo and also plan for 200-250HP for starters.. thanks.

VNT only with proper control, at least tie vanes to some wastegate actuator.. it works good enough. Dont fixate them! Big Grin

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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
starynovy
01-05-2015, 04:28 PM #8

What about HE221W? Not suggesting, asking.. I can have this turbo and also plan for 200-250HP for starters.. thanks.

VNT only with proper control, at least tie vanes to some wastegate actuator.. it works good enough. Dont fixate them! Big Grin


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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW

raidaru
TA 0301

65
01-06-2015, 03:16 PM #9
(01-04-2015, 02:49 PM)barrote u take a VNT type turbine install it in your veicle , and thats it.
what is the big deal? Vanes control? easy, or u take the vanes in a static position where they produce the best result, and the engine becomes limited by high egt, and high rpm. or u take the motion path, wether by a vac controled actuator , or a pressure controled.
i have a presure controled at 1.8 Bar.
mores details only for detailed questions
regards.
don't u have backpressure problems with the vnt controlled by the boost actuator? what is the rmp range that it makes good torque?

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raidaru
01-06-2015, 03:16 PM #9

(01-04-2015, 02:49 PM)barrote u take a VNT type turbine install it in your veicle , and thats it.
what is the big deal? Vanes control? easy, or u take the vanes in a static position where they produce the best result, and the engine becomes limited by high egt, and high rpm. or u take the motion path, wether by a vac controled actuator , or a pressure controled.
i have a presure controled at 1.8 Bar.
mores details only for detailed questions
regards.
don't u have backpressure problems with the vnt controlled by the boost actuator? what is the rmp range that it makes good torque?


lost in the diesel universe.............

starynovy
Holset

338
01-06-2015, 03:44 PM #10
(01-06-2015, 03:16 PM)raidaru don't u have backpressure problems with the vnt controlled by the boost actuator? what is the rmp range that it makes good torque?

Of course you have them.. true VNT control open vanes when you dont need boost. Other than shorter turbo lifespan due to it always rotating at high speed and lower miles per galon due to backpressure, there are no other downsides since its always boosting something its ready to spool up whenever you slap the pedal. In my case torque peak was 1700RPM and it held to about 3200, then died away gradualy.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
starynovy
01-06-2015, 03:44 PM #10

(01-06-2015, 03:16 PM)raidaru don't u have backpressure problems with the vnt controlled by the boost actuator? what is the rmp range that it makes good torque?

Of course you have them.. true VNT control open vanes when you dont need boost. Other than shorter turbo lifespan due to it always rotating at high speed and lower miles per galon due to backpressure, there are no other downsides since its always boosting something its ready to spool up whenever you slap the pedal. In my case torque peak was 1700RPM and it held to about 3200, then died away gradualy.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW

raidaru
TA 0301

65
01-06-2015, 05:00 PM #11
(01-06-2015, 03:44 PM)starynovy
(01-06-2015, 03:16 PM)raidaru don't u have backpressure problems with the vnt controlled by the boost actuator? what is the rmp range that it makes good torque?

Of course you have them.. true VNT control open vanes when you dont need boost. Other than shorter turbo lifespan due to it always rotating at high speed and lower miles per galon due to backpressure, there are no other downsides since its always boosting something its ready to spool up whenever you slap the pedal. In my case torque peak was 1700RPM and it held to about 3200, then died away gradualy.
Well for a much better vnt mechanical control it should be also used throttle position somehow. There's a guy who pretty much nailed this system, his nickname on forums is Libby but all his pics are gonne! Found some interesting schemes though. It's a little PITA but can be done Smile As for the brainiacs a N75 solenoid controlled by the EGR map could also control the vanes.
[Image: VNT1vanesidle_1.jpg] [Image: VNT2fullpedalvanesclosed.jpg] [Image: VNT3fullpedalvanesopen.jpg] [Image: VNT4pedalreturn.jpg] [Image: VNT155100_1365.jpg]
This post was last modified: 01-06-2015, 05:40 PM by raidaru.

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raidaru
01-06-2015, 05:00 PM #11

(01-06-2015, 03:44 PM)starynovy
(01-06-2015, 03:16 PM)raidaru don't u have backpressure problems with the vnt controlled by the boost actuator? what is the rmp range that it makes good torque?

Of course you have them.. true VNT control open vanes when you dont need boost. Other than shorter turbo lifespan due to it always rotating at high speed and lower miles per galon due to backpressure, there are no other downsides since its always boosting something its ready to spool up whenever you slap the pedal. In my case torque peak was 1700RPM and it held to about 3200, then died away gradualy.
Well for a much better vnt mechanical control it should be also used throttle position somehow. There's a guy who pretty much nailed this system, his nickname on forums is Libby but all his pics are gonne! Found some interesting schemes though. It's a little PITA but can be done Smile As for the brainiacs a N75 solenoid controlled by the EGR map could also control the vanes.
[Image: VNT1vanesidle_1.jpg] [Image: VNT2fullpedalvanesclosed.jpg] [Image: VNT3fullpedalvanesopen.jpg] [Image: VNT4pedalreturn.jpg] [Image: VNT155100_1365.jpg]


lost in the diesel universe.............

Alcaid
TA 0301

58
01-12-2015, 10:40 AM #12
The GT2860RS linked earlier is Chinese counterfeit C.R.A.P.

for a little bit more one can have a genuine and indestructible Holset HE221W...
Alcaid
01-12-2015, 10:40 AM #12

The GT2860RS linked earlier is Chinese counterfeit C.R.A.P.

for a little bit more one can have a genuine and indestructible Holset HE221W...

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
01-12-2015, 10:55 AM #13
Unless the vanes are controlled against a map you get bad things like boost during cruise. HE221W very pretty..




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
01-12-2015, 10:55 AM #13

Unless the vanes are controlled against a map you get bad things like boost during cruise. HE221W very pretty..





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

 
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