228mm to 240mm
228mm to 240mm
01-20-2015, 06:30 PM
#1
I'm struggling to get the correct clutch plate splines in 228mm for my application, most manufacturers seem to do either 215mm or 240mm.
So my question is if I wanted to use a 240mm clutch behind an OM606 what flywheel and clutch combination do I need please?
This I think is the flywheel I have been told to buy which I think is from an OM603 so can I get this as a 240mm version?
This post was last modified: 01-20-2015, 06:31 PM by LRDefender.
LRDefender
01-20-2015, 06:30 PM #1I have been told I need to use a OM603 flywheel to bolt to an OM606 which I believe takes a 228mm clutch plate.
I'm struggling to get the correct clutch plate splines in 228mm for my application, most manufacturers seem to do either 215mm or 240mm.
So my question is if I wanted to use a 240mm clutch behind an OM606 what flywheel and clutch combination do I need please?
This I think is the flywheel I have been told to buy which I think is from an OM603 so can I get this as a 240mm version?
01-21-2015, 04:30 AM
#3
Looks like a single mass FW made for a dual mass gearbox (short input shaft).
Machine it for a 240mm clutch. Might get clearance problem with a 765PP though
Otherwise om605 have a 240mm clutch (dual mass FW).
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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
That is a flywheel that solves all your problems guys
Looks like a single mass FW made for a dual mass gearbox (short input shaft).
Machine it for a 240mm clutch. Might get clearance problem with a 765PP though
Otherwise om605 have a 240mm clutch (dual mass FW).
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
01-21-2015, 07:20 AM
#4
(01-21-2015, 04:30 AM)F.R.A.S That is a flywheel that solves all your problems guys
Looks like a single mass FW made for a dual mass gearbox (short input shaft).
Machine it for a 240mm clutch. Might get clearance problem with a 765PP though
Otherwise om605 have a 240mm clutch (dual mass FW).
Still think that is a 228mm dual mass. Looks like one i had thrown to the junkyard last year from my om602 when i change to 240mm dual mass. Some dual mass have long bolts and some have short bolts for bolting it to the crank.
240mm DMF i have used come from om605 turbo and m111 kompressor.
This post was last modified: 01-21-2015, 07:23 AM by EvoPeter.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(01-21-2015, 04:30 AM)F.R.A.S That is a flywheel that solves all your problems guys
Looks like a single mass FW made for a dual mass gearbox (short input shaft).
Machine it for a 240mm clutch. Might get clearance problem with a 765PP though
Otherwise om605 have a 240mm clutch (dual mass FW).
Still think that is a 228mm dual mass. Looks like one i had thrown to the junkyard last year from my om602 when i change to 240mm dual mass. Some dual mass have long bolts and some have short bolts for bolting it to the crank.
240mm DMF i have used come from om605 turbo and m111 kompressor.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
01-21-2015, 07:44 AM
#5
GM 26 spline *should* fit.
I know the Ford 10 spline fits Getrag 265 input shaft.
Maybe if you go back to the drawing board you'll come away with a dead cheap setup that'll hold as much torque as a high dollar ones.
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Don't limit your clutch disc options to MB applications only.
GM 26 spline *should* fit.
I know the Ford 10 spline fits Getrag 265 input shaft.
Maybe if you go back to the drawing board you'll come away with a dead cheap setup that'll hold as much torque as a high dollar ones.
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project
01-21-2015, 07:46 AM
#6
(01-21-2015, 07:20 AM)EvoPeter Still think that is a 228mm dual mass. Looks like one i had thrown to the junkyard last year from my om602 when i change to 240mm dual mass. Some dual mass have long bolts and some have short bolts for bolting it to the crank.
240mm DMF i have used come from om605 turbo and m111 kompressor.
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
If you look at the bolt holes it has to be a single mass.
(01-21-2015, 07:20 AM)EvoPeter Still think that is a 228mm dual mass. Looks like one i had thrown to the junkyard last year from my om602 when i change to 240mm dual mass. Some dual mass have long bolts and some have short bolts for bolting it to the crank.
240mm DMF i have used come from om605 turbo and m111 kompressor.
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
01-21-2015, 08:14 AM
#7
(01-21-2015, 07:46 AM)F.R.A.S If you look at the bolt holes it has to be a single mass.
I could be confused by the edge of the outside boltpattern and the outer wall. On the picture it looks like its a bit of space between them.
This post was last modified: 01-21-2015, 08:15 AM by EvoPeter.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(01-21-2015, 07:46 AM)F.R.A.S If you look at the bolt holes it has to be a single mass.
I could be confused by the edge of the outside boltpattern and the outer wall. On the picture it looks like its a bit of space between them.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
01-21-2015, 09:09 AM
#8
i have one laying around just the same.
i´ve read in here about the sachs 765PP. i´m having a clutch issue, i bought a new press plate and disk 240mm, luk original MB fitting.
now is slidding.
i´m wondering if i have to upgrade, wich press plate and disk should i search for?
regards.
FD,
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that looks like the dual mass high inertia found on the less powerfull engines.
i have one laying around just the same.
i´ve read in here about the sachs 765PP. i´m having a clutch issue, i bought a new press plate and disk 240mm, luk original MB fitting.
now is slidding.
i´m wondering if i have to upgrade, wich press plate and disk should i search for?
regards.
FD,
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01-21-2015, 05:30 PM
#9
Maybe the picture is a bit misleading - This is a modified flywheel for my application which isn't an MB gearbox.
The starter ring is removed from the flywheel and then welded to a plate, then there is an adapter between the plate and the flywheel, longer bolts are then used to attach it to the OM606.
This flywheel is for a 228mm clutch so are you saying that I can machine this one to take a 240mm clutch and pressure plate? And will everything still line up?
LRDefender
01-21-2015, 05:30 PM #9Thanks for the info so far, I'm still a little confused though, I can't have dual mass it needs to be a solid flywheel.
Maybe the picture is a bit misleading - This is a modified flywheel for my application which isn't an MB gearbox.
The starter ring is removed from the flywheel and then welded to a plate, then there is an adapter between the plate and the flywheel, longer bolts are then used to attach it to the OM606.
This flywheel is for a 228mm clutch so are you saying that I can machine this one to take a 240mm clutch and pressure plate? And will everything still line up?
01-22-2015, 12:10 PM
#10
I'm ass confused as you here. You say you need a om603 flywheel and have a picture of a flywheel
However. YES you can machine that to take a 240mm clutch and if the guy machining it for you know what he is doing and can balance it and so on you'll be just fine.
When the bolts snap your legs will not though
(01-21-2015, 05:30 PM)LRDefender Thanks for the info so far, I'm still a little confused though, I can't have dual mass it needs to be a solid flywheel.
Maybe the picture is a bit misleading - This is a modified flywheel for my application which isn't an MB gearbox.
The starter ring is removed from the flywheel and then welded to a plate, then there is an adapter between the plate and the flywheel, longer bolts are then used to attach it to the OM606.
This flywheel is for a 228mm clutch so are you saying that I can machine this one to take a 240mm clutch and pressure plate? And will everything still line up?
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
Sorry mate but that sounds like a death trap
I'm ass confused as you here. You say you need a om603 flywheel and have a picture of a flywheel
However. YES you can machine that to take a 240mm clutch and if the guy machining it for you know what he is doing and can balance it and so on you'll be just fine.
When the bolts snap your legs will not though
(01-21-2015, 05:30 PM)LRDefender Thanks for the info so far, I'm still a little confused though, I can't have dual mass it needs to be a solid flywheel.
Maybe the picture is a bit misleading - This is a modified flywheel for my application which isn't an MB gearbox.
The starter ring is removed from the flywheel and then welded to a plate, then there is an adapter between the plate and the flywheel, longer bolts are then used to attach it to the OM606.
This flywheel is for a 228mm clutch so are you saying that I can machine this one to take a 240mm clutch and pressure plate? And will everything still line up?
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
01-22-2015, 04:23 PM
#11
(01-22-2015, 12:10 PM)F.R.A.S Sorry mate but that sounds like a death trap
I'm ass confused as you here. You say you need a om603 flywheel and have a picture of a flywheel
However. YES you can machine that to take a 240mm clutch and if the guy machining it for you know what he is doing and can balance it and so on you'll be just fine.
When the bolts snap your legs will not though
Haha it's a kit you can buy so I hope it's not a death trap!
Yes I was told this was the flywheel I needed, the picture isn't mine, my question was can I get the same shape, mounting etc as a 240mm clutch version.
Thanks I'll look into the machining option.
I'm hoping no bolts will snap and definitely not my legs
LRDefender
01-22-2015, 04:23 PM #11(01-22-2015, 12:10 PM)F.R.A.S Sorry mate but that sounds like a death trap
I'm ass confused as you here. You say you need a om603 flywheel and have a picture of a flywheel
However. YES you can machine that to take a 240mm clutch and if the guy machining it for you know what he is doing and can balance it and so on you'll be just fine.
When the bolts snap your legs will not though
Haha it's a kit you can buy so I hope it's not a death trap!
Yes I was told this was the flywheel I needed, the picture isn't mine, my question was can I get the same shape, mounting etc as a 240mm clutch version.
Thanks I'll look into the machining option.
I'm hoping no bolts will snap and definitely not my legs
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