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EDH_Performance --> The "WIN DIESEL" Supra

 
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EDH_Performance
Holset

537
10-29-2014, 04:35 AM #1
Hello guys,

The mighty 190D is scrapped because of rust, crakcs in every subframe fixing points++++.... Engine and gearbox is still alive, and all the good partsSmile

The new car is a JDM supra TT 1995, bought it without engine and tranny...Perfect for meBig Grin
The supra has the big brakes and big diff (low gear ratio) as standard.
It came also coilovers with adjustable hardness.
So why not build a mean trippel turbo compounded diesel machine and mount it in the supra???

Turbosetup is: 2x Holset he221W and one big sized to the two smaller he221W.
Dieselpump will be the 300cc 77500rpm+ high stroke camshaft that me and Gøran aka Dieselmeken bulitSmile

Lets name the car The "WIN Diesel" Supra Big Grin

Let the game begin!

From when i picked it up:

[Image: 20140710_173752_zps0537d56b.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173759_zpsb7c6f1a3.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173807_zps991e3010.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173815_zpsc9e0acf3.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173820_zps49bd7b49.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173828_zps1fb9d1d4.jpg]

After a good clean:

[Image: 20140710_183033_zps0ed2e657.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_183106_zps583d5bb5.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_183116_zps5c5f6c53.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_183144_zpsb795d327.jpg]
[Image: 20140711_175640_zpsfb89bfcd.jpg]
[Image: 20140711_175643_zps08a9f931.jpg]
[Image: 20140711_175647_zpsf54b1f58.jpg]

Bought a do-luck fronbumper for almost freeSmile :

[Image: 20141014_125339_zpscaa470b4.jpg]

Cleaned out the interior!
Will convert it to LHD and with a custom steering rackSmile

Before:
[Image: IMG_4995_zps4d502ad4.jpg]
[Image: IMG_4996_zpsf84a6959.jpg]
[Image: IMG_4997_zpsb5712137.jpg]

After:
[Image: IMG_5011_zps5ab55acc.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5013_zpsc0f321ef.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5014_zpsa4db535b.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5015_zps430bd329.jpg]

The om606 resting on some wooden blocks:

[Image: IMG_5003_zpsbba28f0e.jpg]

[Image: IMG_5004_zps1e50865e.jpg]

The big turbo mounted low. It is orientated oposite from normal turbo (As the Holset HT60 is oposite form the HX60)
It fits perfect with a 5" dp and full 5 or 4" exhaust the restBig Grin

[Image: IMG_5049_zps439a1255.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5051_zps942276d1.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5060_zps758f376d.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5061_zps35d78d06.jpg]
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This post was last modified: 10-29-2014, 04:40 AM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
10-29-2014, 04:35 AM #1

Hello guys,

The mighty 190D is scrapped because of rust, crakcs in every subframe fixing points++++.... Engine and gearbox is still alive, and all the good partsSmile

The new car is a JDM supra TT 1995, bought it without engine and tranny...Perfect for meBig Grin
The supra has the big brakes and big diff (low gear ratio) as standard.
It came also coilovers with adjustable hardness.
So why not build a mean trippel turbo compounded diesel machine and mount it in the supra???

Turbosetup is: 2x Holset he221W and one big sized to the two smaller he221W.
Dieselpump will be the 300cc 77500rpm+ high stroke camshaft that me and Gøran aka Dieselmeken bulitSmile

Lets name the car The "WIN Diesel" Supra Big Grin

Let the game begin!

From when i picked it up:

[Image: 20140710_173752_zps0537d56b.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173759_zpsb7c6f1a3.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173807_zps991e3010.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173815_zpsc9e0acf3.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173820_zps49bd7b49.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_173828_zps1fb9d1d4.jpg]

After a good clean:

[Image: 20140710_183033_zps0ed2e657.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_183106_zps583d5bb5.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_183116_zps5c5f6c53.jpg]
[Image: 20140710_183144_zpsb795d327.jpg]
[Image: 20140711_175640_zpsfb89bfcd.jpg]
[Image: 20140711_175643_zps08a9f931.jpg]
[Image: 20140711_175647_zpsf54b1f58.jpg]

Bought a do-luck fronbumper for almost freeSmile :

[Image: 20141014_125339_zpscaa470b4.jpg]

Cleaned out the interior!
Will convert it to LHD and with a custom steering rackSmile

Before:
[Image: IMG_4995_zps4d502ad4.jpg]
[Image: IMG_4996_zpsf84a6959.jpg]
[Image: IMG_4997_zpsb5712137.jpg]

After:
[Image: IMG_5011_zps5ab55acc.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5013_zpsc0f321ef.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5014_zpsa4db535b.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5015_zps430bd329.jpg]

The om606 resting on some wooden blocks:

[Image: IMG_5003_zpsbba28f0e.jpg]

[Image: IMG_5004_zps1e50865e.jpg]

The big turbo mounted low. It is orientated oposite from normal turbo (As the Holset HT60 is oposite form the HX60)
It fits perfect with a 5" dp and full 5 or 4" exhaust the restBig Grin

[Image: IMG_5049_zps439a1255.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5051_zps942276d1.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5060_zps758f376d.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5061_zps35d78d06.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5063_zps558bdb4c.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5066_zps5973635a.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5069_zpsda98e592.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5070_zpsbd8f2452.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5073_zpse065fbfb.jpg]

CRD4x4
CompoundSuperTurboDiesel4x4!

399
10-29-2014, 07:17 AM #2
That is sick!! Do you know how hard those Supras are to find?!
Good for you!!
I'm anxiously awaiting progress. This is gonna be legendary!!

'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project
CRD4x4
10-29-2014, 07:17 AM #2

That is sick!! Do you know how hard those Supras are to find?!
Good for you!!
I'm anxiously awaiting progress. This is gonna be legendary!!


'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project

Alcaid
TA 0301

58
10-29-2014, 07:20 AM #3
You would be much better off with a properly built twin scroll manifold and a HX40 Super as the HP turbo. Twin turbo can not compete with the benefits of twin scroll. You need an 18cm exhaust housing to have the same turbine choke flow as 2 x HE221W 7cm. Compressor efficiency is also much better on the HX40 vs. the HE221W
Alcaid
10-29-2014, 07:20 AM #3

You would be much better off with a properly built twin scroll manifold and a HX40 Super as the HP turbo. Twin turbo can not compete with the benefits of twin scroll. You need an 18cm exhaust housing to have the same turbine choke flow as 2 x HE221W 7cm. Compressor efficiency is also much better on the HX40 vs. the HE221W

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
10-29-2014, 07:26 AM #4
(10-29-2014, 07:20 AM)Alcaid You would be much better off with a properly built twin scroll manifold and a HX40 Super as the HP turbo. Twin turbo can not compete with the benefits of twin scroll. You need an 18cm exhaust housing to have the same turbine choke flow as 2 x HE221W 7cm. Compressor efficiency is also much better on the HX40 vs. the HE221W

Maybe a super 40 with 14cm housing?
EDH_Performance
10-29-2014, 07:26 AM #4

(10-29-2014, 07:20 AM)Alcaid You would be much better off with a properly built twin scroll manifold and a HX40 Super as the HP turbo. Twin turbo can not compete with the benefits of twin scroll. You need an 18cm exhaust housing to have the same turbine choke flow as 2 x HE221W 7cm. Compressor efficiency is also much better on the HX40 vs. the HE221W

Maybe a super 40 with 14cm housing?

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
10-29-2014, 09:20 AM #5
You will need to swap the gearbox if you want to keep up with the fast and furious guys. Will need 20 gears at least lol.
Mark_M
10-29-2014, 09:20 AM #5

You will need to swap the gearbox if you want to keep up with the fast and furious guys. Will need 20 gears at least lol.

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
10-29-2014, 09:32 AM #6
(10-29-2014, 09:20 AM)Mark_M You will need to swap the gearbox if you want to keep up with the fast and furious guys. Will need 20 gears at least lol.

I will only mount 4 zf gearboxes in seriesSmile
EDH_Performance
10-29-2014, 09:32 AM #6

(10-29-2014, 09:20 AM)Mark_M You will need to swap the gearbox if you want to keep up with the fast and furious guys. Will need 20 gears at least lol.

I will only mount 4 zf gearboxes in seriesSmile

Mark_M
GT2559V

206
10-29-2014, 09:43 AM #7
(10-29-2014, 09:32 AM)EDH_Performance I will only mount 4 zf gearboxes in seriesSmile

That should do the trick Cool
Mark_M
10-29-2014, 09:43 AM #7

(10-29-2014, 09:32 AM)EDH_Performance I will only mount 4 zf gearboxes in seriesSmile

That should do the trick Cool

rafael cotrim
Holset hx55 eaton90

22
10-29-2014, 10:58 AM #8
wiil be the best supra ever build!

If it don`t blow smoke , it must be broke ! W201-Angel
rafael cotrim
10-29-2014, 10:58 AM #8

wiil be the best supra ever build!


If it don`t blow smoke , it must be broke ! W201-Angel

Ksteen2
Holset

304
10-29-2014, 05:52 PM #9
Awesome!

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Ksteen2
10-29-2014, 05:52 PM #9

Awesome!


1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc  
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

mantahead
Holset

600
10-31-2014, 06:02 AM #10
awesome build, friend has some supra parts for sale if u need anything
mantahead
10-31-2014, 06:02 AM #10

awesome build, friend has some supra parts for sale if u need anything

10-31-2014, 07:06 AM #11
It's longer dark and it's getting colder and there comes the crazy cars from the northern heheTongue
Nice DanielBig Grin
hansebanger77
10-31-2014, 07:06 AM #11

It's longer dark and it's getting colder and there comes the crazy cars from the northern heheTongue
Nice DanielBig Grin

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
11-01-2014, 04:21 PM #12
Great new project DanielBig Grin but I think you should have used that Ford 17M insteadTongue

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
11-01-2014, 04:21 PM #12

Great new project DanielBig Grin but I think you should have used that Ford 17M insteadTongue


HuhCoolTongue

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-03-2014, 05:30 AM #13
Thanks guys, it will be fun when i show up on trackdays with a black smoking supra^^

I made som stainless steel brackets for building new custom motormounts, so i will soon make them and a custom gearbox support!
EDH_Performance
11-03-2014, 05:30 AM #13

Thanks guys, it will be fun when i show up on trackdays with a black smoking supra^^

I made som stainless steel brackets for building new custom motormounts, so i will soon make them and a custom gearbox support!

sorin_cel
5fingers on a hand, 5cylinders block

71
11-04-2014, 05:48 PM #14
Menthal project!world's first om606 supra!
sorin_cel
11-04-2014, 05:48 PM #14

Menthal project!world's first om606 supra!

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-05-2014, 04:20 AM #15
(11-04-2014, 05:48 PM)sorin_cel Menthal project!world's first om606 supra!

Yes, i think it will even be the worlds first diesel mkIv supraSmile
EDH_Performance
11-05-2014, 04:20 AM #15

(11-04-2014, 05:48 PM)sorin_cel Menthal project!world's first om606 supra!

Yes, i think it will even be the worlds first diesel mkIv supraSmile

silverzx
Naturally-aspirated

17
11-05-2014, 06:13 AM #16
Your house / drive / garage / view look beautiful. Smile
silverzx
11-05-2014, 06:13 AM #16

Your house / drive / garage / view look beautiful. Smile

Tito
Holset

354
11-05-2014, 04:21 PM #17
That engine bay looks huuuuuge btw....

Soooo this is the 3 turbo's setup again? Big Grin
Tito
11-05-2014, 04:21 PM #17

That engine bay looks huuuuuge btw....

Soooo this is the 3 turbo's setup again? Big Grin

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-06-2014, 02:32 AM #18
(11-05-2014, 06:13 AM)silverzx Your house / drive / garage / view look beautiful. Smile

Hehe thanks, the garages is undergoing a massive rebuild, both are finish on the outside now compared to the photo, still alot to do insideSmile

(11-05-2014, 04:21 PM)Tito That engine bay looks huuuuuge btw....

Soooo this is the 3 turbo's setup again? Big Grin

Yes, there is a lot more play room in this one compared to the 190Big Grin
This time i must build a trippel turbo....!
This post was last modified: 11-06-2014, 02:35 AM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
11-06-2014, 02:32 AM #18

(11-05-2014, 06:13 AM)silverzx Your house / drive / garage / view look beautiful. Smile

Hehe thanks, the garages is undergoing a massive rebuild, both are finish on the outside now compared to the photo, still alot to do insideSmile

(11-05-2014, 04:21 PM)Tito That engine bay looks huuuuuge btw....

Soooo this is the 3 turbo's setup again? Big Grin

Yes, there is a lot more play room in this one compared to the 190Big Grin
This time i must build a trippel turbo....!

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-07-2014, 02:33 AM #19
Made some brackets and got a BMW E39 steering rack mounted, it has a ratio of 3:1

So now it is soon to be LHD Big Grin

Made some brackets and got a BMW E39 steering rack mounted, it has a ratio of 3:1
I am getting full lock both directions, so very happy with the conversion!

So now it is soon to be LHD Big Grin

Just tackwelded a bracket ( This will be modified for much better strength):
[Image: 20141106_225932_zpsc38xvcfz.jpg]

Rim/tyre hitting the lower support arm:
[Image: 20141106_225957_zpsmlmwhbyh.jpg]

Need to move the steering collum over to the left side and mate it to the BMW steering rack:
[Image: 20141106_234847_zps16npy4mw.jpg]

Have now much better room for turbo+downpipe:
[Image: 20141106_234857_zpst8hr7tvk.jpg]

Have good steering angle:
[Image: 20141106_234933_zpsuvvdnnrt.jpg]
This post was last modified: 11-09-2014, 02:03 PM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
11-07-2014, 02:33 AM #19

Made some brackets and got a BMW E39 steering rack mounted, it has a ratio of 3:1

So now it is soon to be LHD Big Grin

Made some brackets and got a BMW E39 steering rack mounted, it has a ratio of 3:1
I am getting full lock both directions, so very happy with the conversion!

So now it is soon to be LHD Big Grin

Just tackwelded a bracket ( This will be modified for much better strength):
[Image: 20141106_225932_zpsc38xvcfz.jpg]

Rim/tyre hitting the lower support arm:
[Image: 20141106_225957_zpsmlmwhbyh.jpg]

Need to move the steering collum over to the left side and mate it to the BMW steering rack:
[Image: 20141106_234847_zps16npy4mw.jpg]

Have now much better room for turbo+downpipe:
[Image: 20141106_234857_zpst8hr7tvk.jpg]

Have good steering angle:
[Image: 20141106_234933_zpsuvvdnnrt.jpg]

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-09-2014, 03:00 PM #20
Update:

Have welded the support for the steering rack, need prep and paint.
[Image: IMG_5143_zpscb391ac0.jpg]

Made a steering joint that fits on the steering rack and supra`s steering collum:

Stock BMW E49 joint:
[Image: IMG_5135_zpsd9efb3e8.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5136_zps2baa08b3.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5137_zps08ea5ef2.jpg]

Supra and BMW joint:
[Image: IMG_5139_zpsae9e5e3d.jpg]

One finished joint:
[Image: IMG_5145_zpsc7c6ec17.jpg]

To get more out of the steering rack i will make some spacers for the inner joints.
I can get 8mm more without the joints, so i will make a 7mm spacer so the rack bottoms out on the joint and not on the rack itself:

Stock stop point:
[Image: IMG_5151_zps92d368b7.jpg]

8mm further:
[Image: IMG_5152_zps02d94d8c.jpg]

This last 8mm does a whole lot on the steering angle! Will post pictures when it is mounted finallyWink

Stay tuned for more fun^^
EDH_Performance
11-09-2014, 03:00 PM #20

Update:

Have welded the support for the steering rack, need prep and paint.
[Image: IMG_5143_zpscb391ac0.jpg]

Made a steering joint that fits on the steering rack and supra`s steering collum:

Stock BMW E49 joint:
[Image: IMG_5135_zpsd9efb3e8.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5136_zps2baa08b3.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5137_zps08ea5ef2.jpg]

Supra and BMW joint:
[Image: IMG_5139_zpsae9e5e3d.jpg]

One finished joint:
[Image: IMG_5145_zpsc7c6ec17.jpg]

To get more out of the steering rack i will make some spacers for the inner joints.
I can get 8mm more without the joints, so i will make a 7mm spacer so the rack bottoms out on the joint and not on the rack itself:

Stock stop point:
[Image: IMG_5151_zps92d368b7.jpg]

8mm further:
[Image: IMG_5152_zps02d94d8c.jpg]

This last 8mm does a whole lot on the steering angle! Will post pictures when it is mounted finallyWink

Stay tuned for more fun^^

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-12-2014, 08:19 AM #21
Little update:

The bracket is done, only need prep and paint!
[Image: 20141111_225245_zpssbjbddva.jpg]
[Image: 20141111_225257_zps2qgqpd1o.jpg]


Drilled hole for the steering collum:
[Image: 20141111_225306_zpsgk8a5vfw.jpg]
[Image: 20141111_225315_zpsnwlluxvk.jpg]

So tonight i will move the steering collum over to the left and install the seat!

Stay tuned...
EDH_Performance
11-12-2014, 08:19 AM #21

Little update:

The bracket is done, only need prep and paint!
[Image: 20141111_225245_zpssbjbddva.jpg]
[Image: 20141111_225257_zps2qgqpd1o.jpg]


Drilled hole for the steering collum:
[Image: 20141111_225306_zpsgk8a5vfw.jpg]
[Image: 20141111_225315_zpsnwlluxvk.jpg]

So tonight i will move the steering collum over to the left and install the seat!

Stay tuned...

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-13-2014, 05:30 PM #22
Got the steering collum almost finish today:

[Image: 20141113_193814_zpsg6rymi3l.jpg]
[Image: 20141113_193818_zpsygkgqyhf.jpg]
[Image: 20141113_193952_zpsenzxfnkr.jpg]
[Image: 20141113_194153_zpsxqyd9qs0.jpg]

Dont have a picture of the lengthen joint, but i made it 15cm longer as the steering wheel is now 15 cm further back.

[Image: IMG_5155_zps6d8c058c.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5156_zps10d9eb68.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5157_zps1e9d4164.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5158_zps0c34372b.jpg]

Stay tuned for more fun, next will be to make motor and gearbox mounts...
EDH_Performance
11-13-2014, 05:30 PM #22

Got the steering collum almost finish today:

[Image: 20141113_193814_zpsg6rymi3l.jpg]
[Image: 20141113_193818_zpsygkgqyhf.jpg]
[Image: 20141113_193952_zpsenzxfnkr.jpg]
[Image: 20141113_194153_zpsxqyd9qs0.jpg]

Dont have a picture of the lengthen joint, but i made it 15cm longer as the steering wheel is now 15 cm further back.

[Image: IMG_5155_zps6d8c058c.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5156_zps10d9eb68.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5157_zps1e9d4164.jpg]
[Image: IMG_5158_zps0c34372b.jpg]

Stay tuned for more fun, next will be to make motor and gearbox mounts...

Sjevsspeed.nl
twincharged

59
11-13-2014, 05:35 PM #23
making good progress
Sjevsspeed.nl
11-13-2014, 05:35 PM #23

making good progress

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-16-2014, 01:45 PM #24
Damn, that's one awesome car. Great project. The guys at "Gatebil" will be black of envy Smile or...

...SMOKE hahahhah Smile

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-16-2014, 01:45 PM #24

Damn, that's one awesome car. Great project. The guys at "Gatebil" will be black of envy Smile or...

...SMOKE hahahhah Smile


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Turbo
Holset

489
11-16-2014, 05:07 PM #25
Great project
at "300cc 77500rpm+" it will be mind blowing
keep up the good work
Turbo
11-16-2014, 05:07 PM #25

Great project
at "300cc 77500rpm+" it will be mind blowing
keep up the good work

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-17-2014, 05:35 AM #26
(11-16-2014, 05:07 PM)Turbo Great project
at "300cc 77500rpm+" it will be mind blowing
keep up the good work

The fun starts after 75000 rpm you know^^

(11-16-2014, 01:45 PM)F.R.A.S Damn, that's one awesome car. Great project. The guys at "Gatebil" will be black of envy Smile or...

...SMOKE hahahhah Smile

ThanksSmile I don`t know of any other supra mkiv with a turbo diesel, so this could be funBig Grin
This post was last modified: 11-17-2014, 05:36 AM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
11-17-2014, 05:35 AM #26

(11-16-2014, 05:07 PM)Turbo Great project
at "300cc 77500rpm+" it will be mind blowing
keep up the good work

The fun starts after 75000 rpm you know^^

(11-16-2014, 01:45 PM)F.R.A.S Damn, that's one awesome car. Great project. The guys at "Gatebil" will be black of envy Smile or...

...SMOKE hahahhah Smile

ThanksSmile I don`t know of any other supra mkiv with a turbo diesel, so this could be funBig Grin

Sjevsspeed.nl
twincharged

59
11-17-2014, 07:24 AM #27
Dont think there is one. only seen a s13 200sx with a 4bt cummings.but this is way sicker
Sjevsspeed.nl
11-17-2014, 07:24 AM #27

Dont think there is one. only seen a s13 200sx with a 4bt cummings.but this is way sicker

EmJay
Holset

299
11-18-2014, 09:23 PM #28
This is going to be an epic build! I hope that isn't blood I see in the first thread next to the turbo.

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
11-18-2014, 09:23 PM #28

This is going to be an epic build! I hope that isn't blood I see in the first thread next to the turbo.


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-19-2014, 09:17 AM #29
(11-18-2014, 09:23 PM)EmJay This is going to be an epic build! I hope that isn't blood I see in the first thread next to the turbo.

Haha, it is only some red paint after i painted my boatWink
EDH_Performance
11-19-2014, 09:17 AM #29

(11-18-2014, 09:23 PM)EmJay This is going to be an epic build! I hope that isn't blood I see in the first thread next to the turbo.

Haha, it is only some red paint after i painted my boatWink

Stamsaas
GT2256V

155
11-20-2014, 05:24 PM #30
More Merc Powered Toyotas! Wink Will you drive this to the summer? Smile
Stamsaas
11-20-2014, 05:24 PM #30

More Merc Powered Toyotas! Wink Will you drive this to the summer? Smile

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-26-2014, 01:28 AM #31
(11-20-2014, 05:24 PM)Stamsaas More Merc Powered Toyotas! Wink Will you drive this to the summer? Smile

It will be fun to attend a toyota street meetBig Grin
Yes, my plan is to run it to the summer....Hopefully!
EDH_Performance
11-26-2014, 01:28 AM #31

(11-20-2014, 05:24 PM)Stamsaas More Merc Powered Toyotas! Wink Will you drive this to the summer? Smile

It will be fun to attend a toyota street meetBig Grin
Yes, my plan is to run it to the summer....Hopefully!

StrikerofDeath
Naturally-aspirated

13
11-28-2014, 08:04 PM #32
crazy! but.... very good!
StrikerofDeath
11-28-2014, 08:04 PM #32

crazy! but.... very good!

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
02-24-2015, 05:03 AM #33
Hi all,

time for an update. Have tore the motor down, built my High Pressure turbo and started on the manifold.

The turbo build:

Bought a brand new Holset HX35 with 50mm inducer comp wheel, watercooled center and 14cm wg exhaust housing.
Changed to a custom 56mm billet compwheel (hx35 was never delivered with this wheelsize) and housing and fitted a 12cm non-wg exhaust housing.

[Image: 20150207_162442_zps22a82c2d.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162435_zpsf68c78d2.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162453_zps41a5d8f6.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162503_zps5c462846.jpg]

New parts:
[Image: 20150207_162503_zps5c462846.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162751_zps584f7e9d.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162802_zpsf0155481.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_163314_zpsb31df5d3.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_163317_zps1ca30754.jpg]

I have also started to build the manifold, just tack welded everything together to see if it fits the car.

First i found the hight the turbo needs to sit:

[Image: 20150210_114347_zpsbabd38a0.jpg]

Then started the puzzle:

[Image: 20150212_001023_zps8680bbc8.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_003052_zps0e84cc09.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_004222_zps09894723.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_011536_zps075f7e4d.jpg]

Test fitted the manifold and turbo in the car:

[Image: 20150212_020254_zps06dbfdb3.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_020307_zps983f09d1.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_020319_zpse2799d44.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_020334_zps3a5989e7.jpg]

I have also started on the maingirdle, that also will function as a dry sump:
25mm steel plateBig Grin

[Image: 20150202_225801_zpscd719594.jpg]
[Image: 20150202_225740_zps2c288168.jpg]
EDH_Performance
02-24-2015, 05:03 AM #33

Hi all,

time for an update. Have tore the motor down, built my High Pressure turbo and started on the manifold.

The turbo build:

Bought a brand new Holset HX35 with 50mm inducer comp wheel, watercooled center and 14cm wg exhaust housing.
Changed to a custom 56mm billet compwheel (hx35 was never delivered with this wheelsize) and housing and fitted a 12cm non-wg exhaust housing.

[Image: 20150207_162442_zps22a82c2d.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162435_zpsf68c78d2.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162453_zps41a5d8f6.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162503_zps5c462846.jpg]

New parts:
[Image: 20150207_162503_zps5c462846.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162751_zps584f7e9d.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_162802_zpsf0155481.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_163314_zpsb31df5d3.jpg]
[Image: 20150207_163317_zps1ca30754.jpg]

I have also started to build the manifold, just tack welded everything together to see if it fits the car.

First i found the hight the turbo needs to sit:

[Image: 20150210_114347_zpsbabd38a0.jpg]

Then started the puzzle:

[Image: 20150212_001023_zps8680bbc8.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_003052_zps0e84cc09.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_004222_zps09894723.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_011536_zps075f7e4d.jpg]

Test fitted the manifold and turbo in the car:

[Image: 20150212_020254_zps06dbfdb3.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_020307_zps983f09d1.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_020319_zpse2799d44.jpg]
[Image: 20150212_020334_zps3a5989e7.jpg]

I have also started on the maingirdle, that also will function as a dry sump:
25mm steel plateBig Grin

[Image: 20150202_225801_zpscd719594.jpg]
[Image: 20150202_225740_zps2c288168.jpg]

Sjevsspeed.nl
twincharged

59
02-25-2015, 01:29 PM #34
damn dry sump, did u take the rest of the system of another car or fabricating everything urself?
Sjevsspeed.nl
02-25-2015, 01:29 PM #34

damn dry sump, did u take the rest of the system of another car or fabricating everything urself?

saquzi
Naturally-aspirated

7
02-28-2015, 11:37 AM #35
That drysump plate looks heavy... 6/8mm plate on the gasget points should do it good enough!
saquzi
02-28-2015, 11:37 AM #35

That drysump plate looks heavy... 6/8mm plate on the gasget points should do it good enough!

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
02-28-2015, 12:03 PM #36
First one was 6mm, too thin...
EDH_Performance
02-28-2015, 12:03 PM #36

First one was 6mm, too thin...

saquzi
Naturally-aspirated

7
02-28-2015, 05:47 PM #37
Why was it too thin?
saquzi
02-28-2015, 05:47 PM #37

Why was it too thin?

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
03-01-2015, 07:06 AM #38
Because it would just bend and twist...It will be working as a maingirdle and drysump, therefor it must be thick! Weight is no problem when it sits so low
EDH_Performance
03-01-2015, 07:06 AM #38

Because it would just bend and twist...It will be working as a maingirdle and drysump, therefor it must be thick! Weight is no problem when it sits so low

Duncansport
Holset

526
03-01-2015, 09:51 AM #39
(03-01-2015, 07:06 AM)EDH_Performance Because it would just bend and twist...It will be working as a maingirdle and drysump, therefor it must be thick! Weight is no problem when it sits so low

+1 on this. I made mine from high carbon cold rolled steel at .750 thickness. Also I enlarged all the oil pan bolts to 8x1.25 and used arp studs throughout the pan bolts and main bolts. No dry sump for me though..
Nice work as always
Duncansport
03-01-2015, 09:51 AM #39

(03-01-2015, 07:06 AM)EDH_Performance Because it would just bend and twist...It will be working as a maingirdle and drysump, therefor it must be thick! Weight is no problem when it sits so low

+1 on this. I made mine from high carbon cold rolled steel at .750 thickness. Also I enlarged all the oil pan bolts to 8x1.25 and used arp studs throughout the pan bolts and main bolts. No dry sump for me though..
Nice work as always

Turbo
Holset

489
03-01-2015, 11:17 AM #40
Duncan can you make more of these?
Turbo
03-01-2015, 11:17 AM #40

Duncan can you make more of these?

Duncansport
Holset

526
03-01-2015, 12:31 PM #41
(03-01-2015, 11:17 AM)Turbo Duncan can you make more of these?

I could be it would not be very cost effective.. i posted the design on the patterns section of this forum for anyone to use. It's in a auto-cad file and could be used straight away by a machinist. 
Duncansport
03-01-2015, 12:31 PM #41

(03-01-2015, 11:17 AM)Turbo Duncan can you make more of these?

I could be it would not be very cost effective.. i posted the design on the patterns section of this forum for anyone to use. It's in a auto-cad file and could be used straight away by a machinist. 

Turbo
Holset

489
03-01-2015, 01:10 PM #42
(03-01-2015, 12:31 PM)Duncansport Hi Duncan
can you please link it so I can find it, have been trying without succes for a wile...

How did you do with the bearing bracket and to get right bearing play with torque on the bults under the support bearing for the chank shaft if I may ask?


I could be it would not be very cost effective.. i posted the design on the patterns section of this forum for anyone to use. It's in a auto-cad file and could be used straight away by a machinist. 
Turbo
03-01-2015, 01:10 PM #42

(03-01-2015, 12:31 PM)Duncansport Hi Duncan
can you please link it so I can find it, have been trying without succes for a wile...

How did you do with the bearing bracket and to get right bearing play with torque on the bults under the support bearing for the chank shaft if I may ask?


I could be it would not be very cost effective.. i posted the design on the patterns section of this forum for anyone to use. It's in a auto-cad file and could be used straight away by a machinist. 

Duncansport
Holset

526
03-01-2015, 02:50 PM #43
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/atta...p?aid=7080

there are spacer welded on to the girdle between the main bearing cap and the base of the girdle. the use of longer studs is needed
Duncansport
03-01-2015, 02:50 PM #43

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/atta...p?aid=7080

there are spacer welded on to the girdle between the main bearing cap and the base of the girdle. the use of longer studs is needed

Turbo
Holset

489
03-01-2015, 04:14 PM #44
Thank you dunkan for the drawing

As I have understud it when the gridle is made and the bearing bracket is put under (welded or not) and the stud is put in place with right torque bearing play need to be put to the right value by grinding with special tool, this since from one block to the other differ to much, Have I get this completly wrong? 
Turbo
03-01-2015, 04:14 PM #44

Thank you dunkan for the drawing

As I have understud it when the gridle is made and the bearing bracket is put under (welded or not) and the stud is put in place with right torque bearing play need to be put to the right value by grinding with special tool, this since from one block to the other differ to much, Have I get this completly wrong? 

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
03-02-2015, 03:33 AM #45
Found one girdle for Om604 made by som crazy finns:

[Image: 1015209_479059232164202_158549217_o_zps6mla35ev.jpg]
[Image: 1780052_576704235733034_1765254120_o_zpstp3w5fd2.jpg]

Must be atleast 50mm thick!!
They managed to split the block in twoBig GrinBig Grin
EDH_Performance
03-02-2015, 03:33 AM #45

Found one girdle for Om604 made by som crazy finns:

[Image: 1015209_479059232164202_158549217_o_zps6mla35ev.jpg]
[Image: 1780052_576704235733034_1765254120_o_zpstp3w5fd2.jpg]

Must be atleast 50mm thick!!
They managed to split the block in twoBig GrinBig Grin

Turbo
Holset

489
03-03-2015, 04:24 AM #46
Daniel what do you think about the alignment/ clearance?
Turbo
03-03-2015, 04:24 AM #46

Daniel what do you think about the alignment/ clearance?

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
03-03-2015, 01:49 PM #47
Very important is that when the maingirdle is bolted down, it does not put any extra stresses to the main bearing caps...Meaning the whole purpose is to maintain position on the main bearing cap in both down and side to side movement! Therefore it is not necsessary to linebore the main bearings, but i recomend to check the lineboring to be safe. The tolerances of the bearings caps should not alter with or without a miangirdle!

Just take a test, if you have acsess to a complete bottom end...Take a medium flat screwdriver and stick in betwheen a main bearing cap and crankshaft and try to bend. It will bend with not much force, therefor the need of a main bearing girlde when this extreme forces is put down to the crankshaft.

My maingirdle is thick because it is not only holding the bearings in place, it holds the whole crankshaft from being pushed down and out of the block. ARP bolts is to be used along with bigger bolts around where the original was used m6...

Seen blocks and main bearings break with high nm/hp numbers, so better build it strong from day oneSmile
This post was last modified: 03-03-2015, 01:51 PM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
03-03-2015, 01:49 PM #47

Very important is that when the maingirdle is bolted down, it does not put any extra stresses to the main bearing caps...Meaning the whole purpose is to maintain position on the main bearing cap in both down and side to side movement! Therefore it is not necsessary to linebore the main bearings, but i recomend to check the lineboring to be safe. The tolerances of the bearings caps should not alter with or without a miangirdle!

Just take a test, if you have acsess to a complete bottom end...Take a medium flat screwdriver and stick in betwheen a main bearing cap and crankshaft and try to bend. It will bend with not much force, therefor the need of a main bearing girlde when this extreme forces is put down to the crankshaft.

My maingirdle is thick because it is not only holding the bearings in place, it holds the whole crankshaft from being pushed down and out of the block. ARP bolts is to be used along with bigger bolts around where the original was used m6...

Seen blocks and main bearings break with high nm/hp numbers, so better build it strong from day oneSmile

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
10-14-2015, 04:39 PM #48
It is time for an update i seeSmile

Went mad cutting into the firewall, so now the engine sits behind the front wheels.


Stock placement:

[Image: 20150904_135546_zpsd9qd1uh3.jpg]
[Image: 20150904_135539_zpsgo0vjyif.jpg]

After cutting into the firewall:

[Image: IMG_20150905_173046_zpsjrerlbjr.jpg]
[Image: IMG_20150905_173711_zps0amixpea.jpg]

The start of one motor mount:

[Image: FB_IMG_1441576122978_zps3gwm9fwz.jpg]

The LP turbo is positioned:

[Image: 20151007_192831_zpsuvtrm7du.jpg]
[Image: 20151007_192839_zpsvdinnyoq.jpg]
[Image: 20150909_102939_zpsi7qhyifv.jpg]


Mocking up where water/air intercooler between LP and HP turbo + where the v-mounted radiator / intercooler will be in the front:

[Image: 20151007_215156_zpsjofc40w0.jpg]
[Image: 20151007_215533_zpsdaj4yysm.jpg]
[Image: 20151007_215538_zpswxvcrw3h.jpg]

There is more going behind the scenes, but not for this update!

Stay tuned for more diesel funBig Grin
EDH_Performance
10-14-2015, 04:39 PM #48

It is time for an update i seeSmile

Went mad cutting into the firewall, so now the engine sits behind the front wheels.


Stock placement:

[Image: 20150904_135546_zpsd9qd1uh3.jpg]
[Image: 20150904_135539_zpsgo0vjyif.jpg]

After cutting into the firewall:

[Image: IMG_20150905_173046_zpsjrerlbjr.jpg]
[Image: IMG_20150905_173711_zps0amixpea.jpg]

The start of one motor mount:

[Image: FB_IMG_1441576122978_zps3gwm9fwz.jpg]

The LP turbo is positioned:

[Image: 20151007_192831_zpsuvtrm7du.jpg]
[Image: 20151007_192839_zpsvdinnyoq.jpg]
[Image: 20150909_102939_zpsi7qhyifv.jpg]


Mocking up where water/air intercooler between LP and HP turbo + where the v-mounted radiator / intercooler will be in the front:

[Image: 20151007_215156_zpsjofc40w0.jpg]
[Image: 20151007_215533_zpsdaj4yysm.jpg]
[Image: 20151007_215538_zpswxvcrw3h.jpg]

There is more going behind the scenes, but not for this update!

Stay tuned for more diesel funBig Grin

atypicalguy
Holset

555
12-27-2015, 07:46 PM #49
This is all really nice.

Will be interested to see it go.

I think Turbo has a point about the transient characteristics of the boost. It would be great to have something that did not need to bypass the hp turbo turbine or compressor.

I wonder what combination of turbos Stamsaas finally used on that Corolla?
atypicalguy
12-27-2015, 07:46 PM #49

This is all really nice.

Will be interested to see it go.

I think Turbo has a point about the transient characteristics of the boost. It would be great to have something that did not need to bypass the hp turbo turbine or compressor.

I wonder what combination of turbos Stamsaas finally used on that Corolla?

Turbo
Holset

489
12-30-2015, 08:21 AM #50
Nice to see some progress, may I ask why you move the engine so fare back? space reason? centre of gravity?
Turbo
12-30-2015, 08:21 AM #50

Nice to see some progress, may I ask why you move the engine so fare back? space reason? centre of gravity?

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