Which (budget) brand gauges to you guys recommend?
Which (budget) brand gauges to you guys recommend?
03-13-2015, 04:38 PM
#1
Im ready to order the guages for my w123 build, I'm going to get a egt, emp, and boost gauge. I want to get some decent gauges but I can't spend $1000 on three guages. Are there any decent gauges out there for aound $100 each? What brand if any would you guys recommend in that price range? What gauges do you guys use? I really hope my only option at the price isn't some Chinese garbage.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated as always, thanks guys!!
Hi everyone,
Im ready to order the guages for my w123 build, I'm going to get a egt, emp, and boost gauge. I want to get some decent gauges but I can't spend $1000 on three guages. Are there any decent gauges out there for aound $100 each? What brand if any would you guys recommend in that price range? What gauges do you guys use? I really hope my only option at the price isn't some Chinese garbage.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated as always, thanks guys!!
03-13-2015, 07:31 PM
#2
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
$100 a piece should get you some nice autometers, or if your old school look into Stewart Warner's
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
03-13-2015, 07:58 PM
#3
An EGT will be the most expensive (simply because of the circuitry involved). And there's 1 million flavors of boost gauges out there, and they will all be perfectly fine for what your doing. No need for laboratory grade data acquisition on our old diesel Benz's
Look on Summit. They should have about everything you need at the best prices probably.
An"emp" gauge would be completely unnecessary for a permanent install. You can use your boost gauge or an old mechanical fuel pressure gauge for checking emp while tuning/tweaking/checking or what not. But no need to constantly monitor it.
An EGT will be the most expensive (simply because of the circuitry involved). And there's 1 million flavors of boost gauges out there, and they will all be perfectly fine for what your doing. No need for laboratory grade data acquisition on our old diesel Benz's
Look on Summit. They should have about everything you need at the best prices probably.
03-13-2015, 09:42 PM
#4
Check out some pics of the gauges in my build thread
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=6272
Dont cheap out on the EGT one. A bad probe will break and destroy your turbo. I got my PPE one for about $165 shipped, its analog for the "old school" as some call it. I think analog is just much cleaner in the W124 than the boy racer digital stuff.
Check out some pics of the gauges in my build thread
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=6272
03-13-2015, 10:08 PM
#5
This fellow uses them, and he builds some of the nicest custom gauge pods and clusters out there:
http://www.broadfieldcustoms.com/speedhut-gauges/
This post was last modified: 03-13-2015, 10:10 PM by Matej.
Irony.cc
SpeedHut gauges are supposed to be good. Though they are generally about 160-180$ per gauge.
This fellow uses them, and he builds some of the nicest custom gauge pods and clusters out there:
http://www.broadfieldcustoms.com/speedhut-gauges/
Irony.cc
03-13-2015, 11:19 PM
#6
(03-13-2015, 07:31 PM)MFSuper90 $100 a piece should get you some nice autometers, or if your old school look into Stewart Warner's
(03-13-2015, 07:58 PM)wolverine An"emp" gauge would be completely unnecessary for a permanent install. You can use your boost gauge or an old mechanical fuel pressure gauge for checking emp while tuning/tweaking/checking or what not. But no need to constantly monitor it.
An EGT will be the most expensive (simply because of the circuitry involved). And there's 1 million flavors of boost gauges out there, and they will all be perfectly fine for what your doing. No need for laboratory grade data acquisition on our old diesel Benz's
Look on Summit. They should have about everything you need at the best prices probably.
(03-13-2015, 09:42 PM)Mr_Robs Dont cheap out on the EGT one. A bad probe will break and destroy your turbo. I got my PPE one for about $165 shipped, its analog for the "old school" as some call it. I think analog is just much cleaner in the W124 than the boy racer digital stuff.
Check out some pics of the gauges in my build thread
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=6272
(03-13-2015, 10:08 PM)Matej SpeedHut gauges are supposed to be good. Though they are generally about 160-180$ per gauge.
This fellow uses them, and he builds some of the nicest custom gauge pods and clusters out there:
http://www.broadfieldcustoms.com/speedhut-gauges/
Right on guys!
Thanks for all the information and advise, I REALLY appreciate it!!!
Time to do a little shopping, lol!
(03-13-2015, 07:31 PM)MFSuper90 $100 a piece should get you some nice autometers, or if your old school look into Stewart Warner's
(03-13-2015, 07:58 PM)wolverine An"emp" gauge would be completely unnecessary for a permanent install. You can use your boost gauge or an old mechanical fuel pressure gauge for checking emp while tuning/tweaking/checking or what not. But no need to constantly monitor it.
An EGT will be the most expensive (simply because of the circuitry involved). And there's 1 million flavors of boost gauges out there, and they will all be perfectly fine for what your doing. No need for laboratory grade data acquisition on our old diesel Benz's
Look on Summit. They should have about everything you need at the best prices probably.
(03-13-2015, 09:42 PM)Mr_Robs Dont cheap out on the EGT one. A bad probe will break and destroy your turbo. I got my PPE one for about $165 shipped, its analog for the "old school" as some call it. I think analog is just much cleaner in the W124 than the boy racer digital stuff.
Check out some pics of the gauges in my build thread
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=6272
(03-13-2015, 10:08 PM)Matej SpeedHut gauges are supposed to be good. Though they are generally about 160-180$ per gauge.
This fellow uses them, and he builds some of the nicest custom gauge pods and clusters out there:
http://www.broadfieldcustoms.com/speedhut-gauges/
Right on guys!
Thanks for all the information and advise, I REALLY appreciate it!!!
Time to do a little shopping, lol!
03-13-2015, 11:28 PM
#7
(03-13-2015, 09:42 PM)Mr_Robs Dont cheap out on the EGT one. A bad probe will break and destroy your turbo. I got my PPE one for about $165 shipped, its analog for the "old school" as some call it. I think analog is just much cleaner in the W124 than the boy racer digital stuff.
Check out some pics of the gauges in my build thread
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=6272
Wow, nice build!!
How's it coming along, I'd love to check it out some time!
I used to live in San Jose, downtown on 2nd. Im in the east bay now.
(03-13-2015, 09:42 PM)Mr_Robs Dont cheap out on the EGT one. A bad probe will break and destroy your turbo. I got my PPE one for about $165 shipped, its analog for the "old school" as some call it. I think analog is just much cleaner in the W124 than the boy racer digital stuff.
Check out some pics of the gauges in my build thread
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=6272
Wow, nice build!!
How's it coming along, I'd love to check it out some time!
I used to live in San Jose, downtown on 2nd. Im in the east bay now.
03-14-2015, 07:22 AM
#9
http://www.egauges.com/VDO-Vision-Black-.../21006.htm
Hope that helps
Mat
I used VDO vision. Great quality and very reasonably priced.
http://www.egauges.com/VDO-Vision-Black-.../21006.htm
Hope that helps
Mat
03-14-2015, 08:46 AM
#12
I got then used for $100 total (not each) from a part-out and figure my vehicles are used, engines used, why not buy used gauges? They can be tested with a multimeter beforehand.
$$ I WTB a matching EGT gauge $$
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project
I just got a set of New South Performance analog gauges (boost, oil temp, oil pressure) which are a "perfect match to VW/Audi gauge colors".
I got then used for $100 total (not each) from a part-out and figure my vehicles are used, engines used, why not buy used gauges? They can be tested with a multimeter beforehand.
$$ I WTB a matching EGT gauge $$
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project
03-14-2015, 09:10 AM
#13
My favorite is the Idash. It can meet your needs for about 350, and still have massive expandability. I'm pinching my pennies for one now.
raysorenson
03-14-2015, 09:10 AM #13Auber iinstruments has a large selection of reasonably priced thermocouples and bungs, and some simple, cheap digital gauges that can be discretely installed in a 123.
My favorite is the Idash. It can meet your needs for about 350, and still have massive expandability. I'm pinching my pennies for one now.
03-14-2015, 09:06 PM
#14
![[Image: 126412d1418926691-engine-instrumentation...uges-d.jpg]](http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/126412d1418926691-engine-instrumentation-project-gauges-d.jpg)
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
03-14-2015, 09:17 PM
#15
And x2 on the egt gauge. Everyone I know (Bedsides myself) that has a glowshift pyro has stopped working.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
I wish I knew about using arduino boards. You can do lots of awesome stuff with it!
And x2 on the egt gauge. Everyone I know (Bedsides myself) that has a glowshift pyro has stopped working.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
03-15-2015, 03:13 AM
#16
(03-14-2015, 09:06 PM)mach4 I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
Do you want to make some and sell them?
(03-14-2015, 09:06 PM)mach4 I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
Do you want to make some and sell them?
03-15-2015, 06:54 AM
#17
(03-15-2015, 03:13 AM)Joystick Do you want to make some and sell them?
I thought about it, but there is just no way - everything is just too custom. If you add or delete just one sensor, both the Arduino and the Android have to be reprogrammed. And then there are the sensor mounts which are also custom. And there is no guarantee that the bluetooth would work with a particular tablet (had big problems with an HTC phone I started with). And of course many would want iPhone or iPad apps. And providing support would be a nightmare. Not to mention that the market is just too small to support the effort. And finally there are excellent systems for providing similar functionality on OBD equipped cars which makes the market even smaller.
If someone were inclined to embark on a similar project I'd be happy to share my design process, sensor choices, code processes and other issues.
(03-15-2015, 03:13 AM)Joystick Do you want to make some and sell them?
I thought about it, but there is just no way - everything is just too custom. If you add or delete just one sensor, both the Arduino and the Android have to be reprogrammed. And then there are the sensor mounts which are also custom. And there is no guarantee that the bluetooth would work with a particular tablet (had big problems with an HTC phone I started with). And of course many would want iPhone or iPad apps. And providing support would be a nightmare. Not to mention that the market is just too small to support the effort. And finally there are excellent systems for providing similar functionality on OBD equipped cars which makes the market even smaller.
If someone were inclined to embark on a similar project I'd be happy to share my design process, sensor choices, code processes and other issues.
03-16-2015, 01:20 AM
#19
(03-14-2015, 09:06 PM)mach4 I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
Holy shit!!
Thats too nice, well done!!!
(03-14-2015, 09:06 PM)mach4 I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
Holy shit!!
Thats too nice, well done!!!
03-16-2015, 08:48 AM
#20
(03-14-2015, 09:06 PM)mach4 I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
This is similar to iDash. iDash addresses some of issues you mentioned. It works will all operating systems, and uses WiFi. Got accelerometers too. It's really a great bargain if you utilize 25% of it's capability.
raysorenson
03-16-2015, 08:48 AM #20(03-14-2015, 09:06 PM)mach4 I wanted to have a complete set of engine gauges for my project vehicle so I built an Arduino microcontroller based system that captures oil temp, trans temp, EGT, boost, vacuum, intake temp, voltage and fuel pressure. The Arduino transmits the data to a steering wheel mounted tablet wirelessly over bluetooth to provide several display screen options.
The Arduino parts cost about $25, the tablet was $65 and the sensors were about $60. Obviously there is a lot of time involved to engineer and program the system but it's pretty cost effective for what it does... and the tablet does double duty as a nav computer and a HUD trip computer.
This is similar to iDash. iDash addresses some of issues you mentioned. It works will all operating systems, and uses WiFi. Got accelerometers too. It's really a great bargain if you utilize 25% of it's capability.
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