Timing chain crimping tool
Timing chain crimping tool
Thanks.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
dieselsmoke300d
03-17-2015, 09:58 AM #1Does anyone have any knowledge of a way I could maybe rent a timing chain crimper for my OM617? I'm seeing ones on eBay and Pelican etc but I can't really justify paying like $200 for a tool I may use all of maybe twice in my life...
Thanks.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
or u can go in a store dedicated to forestry machines, the motor chain saw´s have a openig device than can open any chain, it´s cheaper than any special tool.
regards,
FD,
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u dont really need it, its kind of easy to open the chain, carefull to avoid droping it inside the engine,
or u can go in a store dedicated to forestry machines, the motor chain saw´s have a openig device than can open any chain, it´s cheaper than any special tool.
regards,
FD,
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Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
dieselsmoke300d
03-17-2015, 10:11 AM #3That could work. Just don't want to risk screwing it up since its nearly the most important part of the engine.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
http://www.specialtyautotoolrentals.com/...urers_id=7
Try this site. They rent a lot of Mercedes tools.
http://www.specialtyautotoolrentals.com/...urers_id=7
"Mercedes tool!
This tool removes chain link rivets. It also peens the master link rivet. To peen, simply use one of the two tool push pins IN the anvil spot, instead of the anvil. Use the OTHER push pin, RETRACTED, to push the other side of the pin when you peen the master link. This tool is wide enough to work on a Mercedes W123, double row, timing chain. The actual Mercedes version of this tool is [$]"
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http://m.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-ch...20provided
"Mercedes tool!
This tool removes chain link rivets. It also peens the master link rivet. To peen, simply use one of the two tool push pins IN the anvil spot, instead of the anvil. Use the OTHER push pin, RETRACTED, to push the other side of the pin when you peen the master link. This tool is wide enough to work on a Mercedes W123, double row, timing chain. The actual Mercedes version of this tool is [$]"
http://www.specialtyautotoolrentals.com/...cts_id=217
I've tried the Harbor Freight tool and found it doesn't work very well for our timing chains. We have a double row chain and this tool is for single row chains. It also is for only breaking chains. It doesn't peen the pin in place which is the more difficult of the two tasks. The Mercedes tool breaks the chain and also mushrooms out the pin to set it.
http://www.specialtyautotoolrentals.com/...cts_id=217
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When I changed out my timing chain, we did it the shade tree way. Put a 4x4 block on the front side of the chain with someone pressing against it hard, then I hammered/peened the new pins. Took a lot of hit, check, hit some more, check, ect... But it was still holding strong after 22k when I sold it. Checked 3 different times when valves were done and a valve cover gasket replacement, showed no signs of loosening.
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Sjevsspeed.nl
03-17-2015, 01:51 PM #8Found a crimper ( too late) for 30 euro in a parts store catalog
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
dieselsmoke300d
03-17-2015, 10:21 PM #9Good info. Thanks guys! I've heard about those Harbor Freight chain tools being perfect for putting one's eyes out when they break, but it doesn't look too terribly flimsy actually.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
03-18-2015, 01:01 AM #10All it is, is a a "C" shaped block with a threaded hole in one side and you just screw a bolt down until it mushed the pin down, it can't be too difficult to make one. At least, I plan on making one when the time comes, I think the most difficult/expensive part will be finding an extra fine thread grade 8 bolt and matching tap
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
(03-17-2015, 01:51 PM)Sjevsspeed.nl Found a crimper ( too late) for 30 euro in a parts store catalogReplaced many mercedes chains, no special tools required. Clamp chain to gear with vise grips,rags over head opening in head,grind off chain pins ,punch out link. Roll in new chain keeping chain clamped ,moving vise grips as needed. Install new link,brad over using large hammer at rear,small hammer in front,striking link pin at an angle.Does not require hard hits. Make sure link can move back and forth. How much to peen,just look at old chain. Never had a failure,hundreds done this way.
(03-17-2015, 01:51 PM)Sjevsspeed.nl Found a crimper ( too late) for 30 euro in a parts store catalogReplaced many mercedes chains, no special tools required. Clamp chain to gear with vise grips,rags over head opening in head,grind off chain pins ,punch out link. Roll in new chain keeping chain clamped ,moving vise grips as needed. Install new link,brad over using large hammer at rear,small hammer in front,striking link pin at an angle.Does not require hard hits. Make sure link can move back and forth. How much to peen,just look at old chain. Never had a failure,hundreds done this way.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
dieselsmoke300d
04-04-2015, 05:16 AM #13Well I picked up a Beck Arnley timing chain off RockAuto for about $40 (vs like $120 for and Iwis or $250 for genuine Mercedes with a master included from Pelican). I failed to see that it was a pre-linked chain so I'm gonna have to break it and then master link it. It may have jumped timing also... But I'll confirm it either way.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
dieselsmoke300d
05-07-2015, 12:28 PM #14So it turns out that this chain doesn't look compatible at all... It's NON-master linked and the pins are a lot smaller than the standard ones. But they got these bushings around them that bring it up to size for the sprocket. But these look too big to fit in a an OM617... And what weird is that Beck Arnley says it's compatible from '79 to '84. I don't think they changed the sprocket just for the '85 engine... But it still doesn't explain how you're supposed to install the thing if not the official way.
Matt.
'85 300SD Turbo
'92 Subaru SVX
'83 Pontiac Firebird S/E
'88 Pontiac Firebird
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BFH will be your friend, sad to say.... Just be to support it on the opposite side with a block of wood or something. That was the only way I could get mine done.
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