W201 1992 STD project
W201 1992 STD project
I look forward to buy an OM602 2.5TD engine and upgrade the fuel pump & bigger elements, bigger turbo and add an intercooler. I want to reach about 250-300hp. I will need to get a getrag 5 speed transmission to hold the power reliably.
I will post my further progress here with you guys. Sorry for bad english sometimes, I'm a french Canadian.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
Hi, i'm a new diesel mercedes enthusiast on this forum and this is my first thread/post. I currently have a black/darkgrey 92' w201 with the 2.3 8v gasoline engine.
I look forward to buy an OM602 2.5TD engine and upgrade the fuel pump & bigger elements, bigger turbo and add an intercooler. I want to reach about 250-300hp. I will need to get a getrag 5 speed transmission to hold the power reliably.
I will post my further progress here with you guys. Sorry for bad english sometimes, I'm a french Canadian.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
Yess the Getrag is pricy but I want a manual transmission and add more power from time to time so I will already have a proper transmission to hold the power. I put my money in the piggy bank and wait
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
Unfortunately there is no off the shelf flywheel option for the cosworth getrag to OM60x arrangement. Hugh_F on here did it, but he made a flywheel and used a BMW cluth, he's selling his getrag and FW / clutch setup come to think of it..
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
Pics pics pics!
Unfortunately there is no off the shelf flywheel option for the cosworth getrag to OM60x arrangement. Hugh_F on here did it, but he made a flywheel and used a BMW cluth, he's selling his getrag and FW / clutch setup come to think of it..
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
Yes I want to add pictures so badly but all the pictures I have on my iPhone are too heavy and cannot be uploaded. I have to lower the resolution on my computer but haven't found the time yet.
Yesterday I repaired some rust problem for holding the exhaust on my daily toyota echo(if only I could upload pictures haha) then wash it all with water pressure machine and redo the anti-rust job today I'll do it to my 190e. I'll keep you guys up to date with my STD project
I'll have my OM602 engine in hand sunday, I found a very good deal; 800$(canadian) 183 000km in exepent condition.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
Ohh :/ it's more complicated than I thought, is there a solid(that holds200-250hp reliably) 5 speed transmission that fits directly a OM602?
Yes I want to add pictures so badly but all the pictures I have on my iPhone are too heavy and cannot be uploaded. I have to lower the resolution on my computer but haven't found the time yet.
Yesterday I repaired some rust problem for holding the exhaust on my daily toyota echo(if only I could upload pictures haha) then wash it all with water pressure machine and redo the anti-rust job today I'll do it to my 190e. I'll keep you guys up to date with my STD project I'll have my OM602 engine in hand sunday, I found a very good deal; 800$(canadian) 183 000km in exepent condition.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
Kenny, you're talking about the Getrag 717.404 from the 16v cars? It will hold 250hp.
raysorenson
03-26-2015, 12:56 PM #6When I installed the 717.404 in my 603 car, I used the cossie flywheel and clutch. It worked fine, but a stock 16v clutch isn't enough for a modded diesel.
Kenny, you're talking about the Getrag 717.404 from the 16v cars? It will hold 250hp.
(03-26-2015, 12:56 PM)raysorenson When I installed the 717.404 in my 603 car, I used the cossie flywheel and clutch. It worked fine, but a stock 16v clutch isn't enough for a modded diesel.
Kenny, you're talking about the Getrag 717.404 from the 16v cars? It will hold 250hp.
But does it fit directly my om602 engine? And I want about 200-250hp, so is there any other solid 5 speed transmission that fits an om602 beside the pricy Getrag off a 190e 2.3 16v
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
(03-26-2015, 12:56 PM)raysorenson When I installed the 717.404 in my 603 car, I used the cossie flywheel and clutch. It worked fine, but a stock 16v clutch isn't enough for a modded diesel.
Kenny, you're talking about the Getrag 717.404 from the 16v cars? It will hold 250hp.
But does it fit directly my om602 engine? And I want about 200-250hp, so is there any other solid 5 speed transmission that fits an om602 beside the pricy Getrag off a 190e 2.3 16v
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
There's been talk on here of a 5 speed or 2 that's stronger than the getrag dog leg, but I have yet to see any big HP builds with any other 5 speed than the getrag 275.
Forget ebay. The 16v transmission kits you see on there cost more than a whole car. Those guys don't care if their auctions stay up for 5 years. It's an ebay bubble. Check on 190rev.
raysorenson
03-26-2015, 03:56 PM #8The 717.450 is the other Getrag dogleg trans but it's a dual mass.
There's been talk on here of a 5 speed or 2 that's stronger than the getrag dog leg, but I have yet to see any big HP builds with any other 5 speed than the getrag 275.
Forget ebay. The 16v transmission kits you see on there cost more than a whole car. Those guys don't care if their auctions stay up for 5 years. It's an ebay bubble. Check on 190rev.
NEWS: the OM602 engine I intented to buy got sold right before I was ready to buy it..
I'm very sad.. I guess I'll wait amd find a new one or check donor cars. I'll maybe go for an OM605 for the 20v head. I'll keep you guys up to date.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
Thanks for the tips, I also checked for 220 cdi's 6speed transmission and I think moneywise it's great.
NEWS: the OM602 engine I intented to buy got sold right before I was ready to buy it.. I'm very sad.. I guess I'll wait amd find a new one or check donor cars. I'll maybe go for an OM605 for the 20v head. I'll keep you guys up to date.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
So I found an 1992 300D with a turbo OM602 1000$ at 6 hours from my home.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
I found out that there was no mercedes with the OM605 engine in north america. Someone proposed me an OM606 for 2500$, it's quite over my budjet & and I feel that the 606 is a bit too heavy for my w201.
So I found an 1992 300D with a turbo OM602 1000$ at 6 hours from my home.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
it's a nice OM602 engine with 250 000 km, everything works fine! It shakes a little bit but I may put a stuff in the fuel that cleans the injector and it may stop shaking..
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
got the OM602 on the table. I'll clean it all with engine shampoo kleen-flo. Then I'm gonna begin disassembling the 2.3 8v in my 190e. I'll keep you guys updated.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
-Does my pump as an electronic governor? The original has been replaced and this one has done only 30 000 km.
-what are the line, parts and things I don't need when I reassemble? (exemple; MAF, etc)
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
I got a couple questions;
-Does my pump as an electronic governor? The original has been replaced and this one has done only 30 000 km.
-what are the line, parts and things I don't need when I reassemble? (exemple; MAF, etc)
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
(04-20-2015, 08:43 AM)Kenny1813 I got a couple questions;
-Does my pump as an electronic governor? The original has been replaced and this one has done only 30 000 km.
-what are the line, parts and things I don't need when I reassemble? (exemple; MAF, etc)
Your governor is fully mechanical.
You can ditch the MAF and EGR and that flapper valve in the intake.
(04-20-2015, 08:43 AM)Kenny1813 I got a couple questions;
-Does my pump as an electronic governor? The original has been replaced and this one has done only 30 000 km.
-what are the line, parts and things I don't need when I reassemble? (exemple; MAF, etc)
Your governor is fully mechanical.
You can ditch the MAF and EGR and that flapper valve in the intake.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
I just bought a 5 speed diesel manual transmission for 190D & 300D, 717.411 to be precise. I'm going to mount it on my engine. then I will be disassembling the gasoline engine.
- 1992 W201 black/grey soon with Turbo OM602 -
- 1983 Porsche 944 n/a -
- 2001 Toyota Echo, my daily and tough 350 000km -
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