W210 200 CDI, 200-250 HP/ 450-500 Nm
W210 200 CDI, 200-250 HP/ 450-500 Nm
To sa to sklada, jedna krasa ked je vsetko nove a leskle. Dlho som tu nebol, ale dovod mojho dymenia bol podfukujuci EGR ventil v zatazi, a zadrete vyrive klapky.
A tu niekde bol predtym ten EGR bazmek. Auto uz ide ako drak, neporovnatelne.
For others, I had problems with heavy smoke under load too, especially in higher revs. It seems to be common to CDI engines that EGR valve fails somehow. Mine was blowing by gases even when closed. Also those swirl flaps were so gunked up by soot the could not move at all and port was 1/2 of its original size due to build up. Everything cleaned up, flaps torn out and their holes welded up with AC TIG, same for EGR valve body, removed and replaced with plain aluminium tube. Cars goes like when it left factory.
(12-26-2015, 08:16 AM)MartinB I think the best way for you is contact Dieselmeken from your country
(12-26-2015, 08:16 AM)MartinB I think the best way for you is contact Dieselmeken from your country
(12-27-2015, 12:49 PM)MartinB I also wondered at, that's too much. So..later i will see. Is there big difference in power with head porting?
(12-27-2015, 04:09 PM)tuikku(12-27-2015, 12:49 PM)MartinB I also wondered at, that's too much. So..later i will see. Is there big difference in power with head porting?
You don´t need that.
After you get over 400hp from your engine.
Now ~580hp from OM648 and practically no power mods in engine, only stiffer valve springs.
(12-27-2015, 04:09 PM)tuikku(12-27-2015, 12:49 PM)MartinB I also wondered at, that's too much. So..later i will see. Is there big difference in power with head porting?
You don´t need that.
After you get over 400hp from your engine.
Now ~580hp from OM648 and practically no power mods in engine, only stiffer valve springs.
(12-28-2015, 03:49 AM)Turbo(12-27-2015, 04:09 PM)tuikku(12-27-2015, 12:49 PM)MartinB I also wondered at, that's too much. So..later i will see. Is there big difference in power with head porting?
You don´t need that.
After you get over 400hp from your engine.
Now ~580hp from OM648 and practically no power mods in engine, only stiffer valve springs.
It would in did be very interesting to know what is needed for that out put since that is exactly what I am looking for
(12-28-2015, 03:49 AM)Turbo(12-27-2015, 04:09 PM)tuikku(12-27-2015, 12:49 PM)MartinB I also wondered at, that's too much. So..later i will see. Is there big difference in power with head porting?
You don´t need that.
After you get over 400hp from your engine.
Now ~580hp from OM648 and practically no power mods in engine, only stiffer valve springs.
It would in did be very interesting to know what is needed for that out put since that is exactly what I am looking for
(12-28-2015, 02:50 PM)Well tuikku can you reveal exactly what injector and who make them since I guess this is the ones BSR is using and and how reliable they areBoost?(12-28-2015, 03:49 AM)Turbo(12-27-2015, 04:09 PM)tuikku You don´t need that.
After you get over 400hp from your engine.
Now ~580hp from OM648 and practically no power mods in engine, only stiffer valve springs.
It would in did be very interesting to know what is needed for that out put since that is exactly what I am looking for
Very big injectors.
Holset hx40 Super
Very big cooler
Stiffer valve springs
Gridle plate + steel bolts crank/c-rod
(12-28-2015, 02:50 PM)Well tuikku can you reveal exactly what injector and who make them since I guess this is the ones BSR is using and and how reliable they areBoost?(12-28-2015, 03:49 AM)Turbo(12-27-2015, 04:09 PM)tuikku You don´t need that.
After you get over 400hp from your engine.
Now ~580hp from OM648 and practically no power mods in engine, only stiffer valve springs.
It would in did be very interesting to know what is needed for that out put since that is exactly what I am looking for
Very big injectors.
Holset hx40 Super
Very big cooler
Stiffer valve springs
Gridle plate + steel bolts crank/c-rod
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You think that I do not have the right to decide myself, what to tell and not.
Your trouble is that you don´t want to find answers for yourself, always asking.
And asking many times the very same questions.
And to me it seems that you do not still believe, or understand.
It has not been so easy to me to find solutions to certain things and I am not telling all here just like that.
There is a reason, why I am here.
And it is not economical in any ways.
If you think that I have not search for information and put down a lot of fa... work, well I can tell you that you are badly mistaken, but to often I have find out in the end that the one that claim can not or do not know in the end, the question is now it seam like you belong to that group.
If I am not mistaken you have said a lot of claims you have not stud up for, you forgotten out last e mail? I always has the idea of sharing is going to be in the common good of this forum
simply if you do not want to share perhaps you can give light what you are doing here so I and some other people can understand it because I am in the dark there, but do not worry, I promise you I will never ask you again.
I wish you best of luck in your projects
In the end I apologize to MartinB for putting this here I do not like it but Mr tuikku is not that keen to answer pm or e mails, please MartinB continue with your great project looking forward to read more about it
(12-30-2015, 02:33 AM)Tito I agree man, this forum is for helping each other out. I would never hold back any info/knowledge I have. I learned a lot (everything STD based) from this forum, so I'm would like to help back. What else would you do on here?
(12-30-2015, 02:33 AM)Tito I agree man, this forum is for helping each other out. I would never hold back any info/knowledge I have. I learned a lot (everything STD based) from this forum, so I'm would like to help back. What else would you do on here?
hello fine people !!! wish u happy new year to all...
if my opinion matters! sometimes giving too much information on a fórum result in "hold back type" acusations. i have been through that.
these days anyone who wich to know about R/D is better PM otherwise we may end up dispersing "out of knowlegde" info. at least is my way.
there are many persons writing in this fórum that is actions and questions resemble very poor knowlegde on the matter... likewise there are people who opens some light in such matters.
CDI despite i have one in my garage, never messed with it yet, reason simple i dont know how to mod the ECU or even hook it to a PC, wich soft app to read it, and all that very importante thing.... that many tend to be left as a second option.
personally what i would like to see here was a post explaining this basic procedure!!!
thanks , and martinB sorry for the highjacking, wich u good luck with the build.
Yes, Tuikku. I have a lot of knowledges from your topics here, mbworld and mersuforum. It is invaluable. And I can understand that some things can be described almost as a patent. I cant remember how many hours i spent for finding and comparing the various parts (engine, brakes, transmission, interior) in EPC. And thats only small part.
(12-30-2015, 06:06 AM)MartinB Yes, Tuikku. I have a lot of knowledges from your topics here, mbworld and mersuforum. It is invaluable. And I can understand that some things can be described almost as a patent. I cant remember how many hours i spent for finding and comparing the various parts (engine, brakes, transmission, interior) in EPC. And thats only small part.
(12-30-2015, 06:06 AM)MartinB Yes, Tuikku. I have a lot of knowledges from your topics here, mbworld and mersuforum. It is invaluable. And I can understand that some things can be described almost as a patent. I cant remember how many hours i spent for finding and comparing the various parts (engine, brakes, transmission, interior) in EPC. And thats only small part.
Thank you too. Hopefully, I'll have a complete engine soon. Next i will try 1500bar. But there are too many other things to do. One of them is backlash in gearshift mechanism (solved). In BMW is it simplier and better.
Great thread. Funny enough, In Ireland, twin turbo 4 cylinder CDI Mercs have a habit of turning the main bearings....in Sprinter vans...leading to oil starvation etc.
Has anyone figured out why this is happening and what is the cure?
Local guys rebuilding these engines normally cut a deeper groove in the bearing caps to prevent this recurring, and tap the bearing tab deeper into it. Anyone got thoughts on this?
I think the main problem is that there isn´t oil pressure sensor. So, you don´t know anything about oil pressure. Oil pressure can be measured only by external pressure gauge.
In WIS - At normal operating temperature of the engine oil, the oil pressure in the idling speed range must not drop below 0,3 bar. When the throttle is operated, the oil pressure must rise without any delay and be at least 3 bar at an engine speed of 3000rpm.
min. 0,3 bar in the idling speed....for me - it´s bad. Old OM602 in the idling I see 1,5-2 bar.
I am planning install my own oil pressure gauge because I don´t want to rebuild this engine unnecessarily anymore
(01-14-2016, 05:26 PM)Riverstick Great thread. Funny enough, In Ireland, twin turbo 4 cylinder CDI Mercs have a habit of turning the main bearings....in Sprinter vans...leading to oil starvation etc.
Has anyone figured out why this is happening and what is the cure?
Local guys rebuilding these engines normally cut a deeper groove in the bearing caps to prevent this recurring, and tap the bearing tab deeper into it. Anyone got thoughts on this?
(01-14-2016, 05:26 PM)Riverstick Great thread. Funny enough, In Ireland, twin turbo 4 cylinder CDI Mercs have a habit of turning the main bearings....in Sprinter vans...leading to oil starvation etc.
Has anyone figured out why this is happening and what is the cure?
Local guys rebuilding these engines normally cut a deeper groove in the bearing caps to prevent this recurring, and tap the bearing tab deeper into it. Anyone got thoughts on this?
O.3Bar on hot engine idling? : If I ever saw value like that I would assume that the engine is scraped and dead.
thats not so simple , the engine might well be with 0.5 bar in idle and when under load does not reach 3bar at 3000 rpm wich is considered to be good enough, and have 1.5 bar in idle and does not reach 3 bar @3k in dry . but in the rest i agree with all of u.
i had i 612 giving birth in my hand , and it spit the rod bearings out, and it did rotate the caps as well. my findings were related with the rods, i found them week in the botom end. compared to a 606 rod they look a lot weeker , but this is me ....
something is week in this engines, caps , rod ends , oil pump , something is .... weeker that the 606´s
Yes, you are right. The bottom end of older Mercedes diesel engines rarely gave trouble. The problem of bearings turning in the block only manifested itself as CDI's got older.
I have seen several 4 cylinder engines turn main bearings(always twin turbo).....the odd 5 cylinder engine, but never a 6 cylinder engine.
I am wondering should the crankshaft damper be changed at a certain mileage to prevent this problem occurring, or is it just a weakness in the securing of the bearings in the bearing caps?
I have seen a good few 150bhp om646 engine blocks replaced with OM611 taken from early production W202 & W210 cars. These engines were fitted with the Sprinter ancillary equipment, although the block has to be drilled and tapped for the oil return for the extra turbo. These engines also had the main bearing securing tab modified to give better 'grip' to the bearing caps. The vans were put back into service and never gave trouble afterwards.
My father tells me in the 1960s a certain model Leyland truck engine had this problem of turning the main bearings. The solution was to 'deepen' the securing tabs in the bearing caps when rebuilding the engines, and he says they never gave any further problems. So, maybe not such a new problem after all?
i see , here where i come from in case we suspect caps want to rotate , its easy .... locktite 271 but this has to be done carefully .
the problem is not new and not so uncommon, sometimes may be a cap defect , nevertheless this type of bearing is not supposed to suffer that much twist, thats why i belive some strange thing is happening in there.
just to confirm u spoke abot OM646 main bearings , and what about the rod bearing?
Tell me more about modified gearshift if not secret.
As I wrote. Original, only remanufactured. Nothing new. I thought, that i will use BMW gearshift. Maybe in the future :-)
Mercedes gearshift is really bad. But in our C180 Kompressor - It´s precise shifting - like BMW, exactly same (Reverse left from first gear).
V tom katalizatore pod autom bolo co? Dalsi normalny kat? Ten za turbom som uz prirodzene kuchol ale pod autom sa mi este nechcelo.
Ten EGR ventil by som uplne odstranil, zbytocna prekazka v toku vzduchu. Soft si ides robit sam?
Jojo, další kat. EGR je znefunkčněn a časem bude nahrazen Soft- Zatim si jen tak projíždím origo mapy stažené z internetu. Takže možná časem. Ale jednu úpravu softu už mi dělali a půjdu na další, až to lehce zajedu. Po opravě a seřízení vstřiků na ještě o něco větší dávku to trochu černě kouří . Ale i na ty nízké otáčky to jede dost dobře
No ja uz len cakam na flasher a idem do tej mojej herky, mapy som si uz nasiel v hexdumpe. Akurat montujem 550x230 FMIC miesto toho OE vtipu. Stage 1 remap by mal aspon u mna hodit 230PS a 550Nm. V tych vstrekoch ti menili aj spicky? Viem ze tam pasuju z C30CDI.
No najlacnejsie tam bude hodit turbo z 270CDI alebo 320 a doladit to.. Zobral som MPPS.
Today on wet asphalt. Driving with 2nd gear and than full throttle from 1500 to 3000 without using clutch - always wheels spinning. Acceleration with 5th/6th gear from low rpm is really good. But now i need more air because of black smoke - remap. Driving with this car giving me a big smile
Hod potom nejake video .
Pozeram ze cockove DEPO svetla.. tiez som ich kupil ale tu shitnu cinsku optiku nahradil Hella Evox-R projektormi, radost jazdit v noci.
Left DEPO, right Hella projector.. almost the same.
Both with D2S Osram Xenarc Classic.
This is how it looks at night, lights up as any other brand new car with xenon.. LED lights are another story.
Low-Beam
High-beam (Bi-xenon)
Here too, patrols will stop you if it looks suspicious. Like if you mount xenon on skoda fabia, 6500K blue as shit and blind everyone. I had xenon in BMW E34, A6 C4, both never mounted xenon from factory but I had 4300K OE like bulbs and good projectors. Patrols never gave me trouble, never asked about it (had it for 4 years). I gladly took the risk, since I almost hit two pedestrians in rain at night. So how you do it is the key.
Sorry for the quality and radio. Not full rpm.
https://goo.gl/photos/EnW3pu5vV724YUCp7