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Dynoed my HE351VE

Dynoed my HE351VE

 
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TurboTim
Holset

457
06-04-2016, 09:36 PM #1
I made 360 whp and 515 tq with a 75 shot of spray. It was on a mustang dyno but still expected more. I only reved to 6200 and it was climbing in hp but only about 10 more I bet. If someone doesn't try the 10 blade hx40 turbine wheel I am going to soon. Tired of only being able to get 32 psi boost. Kinda wanna put an hx52 wheel in compressor side also and just get it over with.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-04-2016, 09:36 PM #1

I made 360 whp and 515 tq with a 75 shot of spray. It was on a mustang dyno but still expected more. I only reved to 6200 and it was climbing in hp but only about 10 more I bet. If someone doesn't try the 10 blade hx40 turbine wheel I am going to soon. Tired of only being able to get 32 psi boost. Kinda wanna put an hx52 wheel in compressor side also and just get it over with.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

PedroFerreira
GTA2056V

98
06-05-2016, 05:05 AM #2
can you post the graphic?
PedroFerreira
06-05-2016, 05:05 AM #2

can you post the graphic?

hooblah
Holset

401
06-05-2016, 07:44 AM #3
Do it!!!
hooblah
06-05-2016, 07:44 AM #3

Do it!!!

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-05-2016, 10:13 AM #4
I'm camping now but I will when I get back later today. Peak tq was right after I sprayed at 3k and peak hp was at 6.2k when I stopped run but looked like it was pretty much flat lined by then

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-05-2016, 10:13 AM #4

I'm camping now but I will when I get back later today. Peak tq was right after I sprayed at 3k and peak hp was at 6.2k when I stopped run but looked like it was pretty much flat lined by then


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-05-2016, 05:31 PM #5
I am looking at the graphs and they set them up super shitty. They are time based so its kinda worthless. They did give me my first run and that has HP plotted but I only did the pull to 5k. It was a dyno day for our MB club so I think one of the owners employees who barely knew how to use the dyno was there....I wish I would have looked at these earlier....

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-05-2016, 05:31 PM #5

I am looking at the graphs and they set them up super shitty. They are time based so its kinda worthless. They did give me my first run and that has HP plotted but I only did the pull to 5k. It was a dyno day for our MB club so I think one of the owners employees who barely knew how to use the dyno was there....I wish I would have looked at these earlier....


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
06-08-2016, 10:09 PM #6
I would go with the turbolabsofamerica upgrade. Priced well, and I've heard good about them. 360hp with nitrous is kinda disheartening. But I know a lot of cummins guys fight the same battle with EGP on the holset vgts. Maybe poor turbine design? Not sure

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
06-08-2016, 10:09 PM #6

I would go with the turbolabsofamerica upgrade. Priced well, and I've heard good about them. 360hp with nitrous is kinda disheartening. But I know a lot of cummins guys fight the same battle with EGP on the holset vgts. Maybe poor turbine design? Not sure


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Turbo
Holset

489
06-09-2016, 01:04 AM #7
Have you mesured, exhaust back pressure, lamda and boost pressure at same time?
Turbo
06-09-2016, 01:04 AM #7

Have you mesured, exhaust back pressure, lamda and boost pressure at same time?

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-10-2016, 03:31 PM #8
Yes max psi is 32psi. Back pressure just gets higher as I close vanes but boost doesn't really go up until I start to open vanes. I think I had 28psi EGP to make 32psi boost. Closing vanes gets higher egp and boost falls.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-10-2016, 03:31 PM #8

Yes max psi is 32psi. Back pressure just gets higher as I close vanes but boost doesn't really go up until I start to open vanes. I think I had 28psi EGP to make 32psi boost. Closing vanes gets higher egp and boost falls.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-10-2016, 03:32 PM #9
Never had Lambda on a diesel. What should it actually read?

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-10-2016, 03:32 PM #9

Never had Lambda on a diesel. What should it actually read?


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

Evgeniy1987
GT2256V

139
06-17-2016, 09:34 AM #10
On such diesels as we all drive here, Lambda goes in the direction of 1 .. I think, lower than 2 Smile but in a clean diesel, it is higher...
Evgeniy1987
06-17-2016, 09:34 AM #10

On such diesels as we all drive here, Lambda goes in the direction of 1 .. I think, lower than 2 Smile but in a clean diesel, it is higher...

JVance
GTA2056V

92
06-17-2016, 02:15 PM #11
Did you address your fuel issue (e.g. not enough) you were having in October?
JVance
06-17-2016, 02:15 PM #11

Did you address your fuel issue (e.g. not enough) you were having in October?

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-17-2016, 02:26 PM #12
I thought it was a fuel issue at the time but it was really I had the vanes closed to tight and it would surge the turbo and stall it out. Just assumed it was starving of fuel so I redid the whole system but still did it. Messed with vane positioning and quit doing it.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-17-2016, 02:26 PM #12

I thought it was a fuel issue at the time but it was really I had the vanes closed to tight and it would surge the turbo and stall it out. Just assumed it was starving of fuel so I redid the whole system but still did it. Messed with vane positioning and quit doing it.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

JVance
GTA2056V

92
06-17-2016, 02:54 PM #13
So, you're now producing excess smoke at 30 psi, with or without the nitrous?
JVance
06-17-2016, 02:54 PM #13

So, you're now producing excess smoke at 30 psi, with or without the nitrous?

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-18-2016, 07:39 AM #14
I did turn my fuel down to just keep EGT at a level more to my liking but maybe I should turn it back up especially since EGT's drop with the NOS.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-18-2016, 07:39 AM #14

I did turn my fuel down to just keep EGT at a level more to my liking but maybe I should turn it back up especially since EGT's drop with the NOS.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

Om606w201
K26-2

45
06-18-2016, 11:18 AM #15
TurboTim
Are you controlling off of turbo shaft speed or differential pressure?
Om606w201
06-18-2016, 11:18 AM #15

TurboTim
Are you controlling off of turbo shaft speed or differential pressure?

TurboTim
Holset

457
06-18-2016, 11:42 AM #16
I have Ole's controller but I have been using just a spring to hold the channel shut at idle then back pressure spreads the channel open. Its the best system I got working so far! Hopefully Ole gets his controller working better as I could get better low end if I could have tighter spring off idle.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
06-18-2016, 11:42 AM #16

I have Ole's controller but I have been using just a spring to hold the channel shut at idle then back pressure spreads the channel open. Its the best system I got working so far! Hopefully Ole gets his controller working better as I could get better low end if I could have tighter spring off idle.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

 
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