Winmutt's 1995 E300
Winmutt's 1995 E300
Things to do, under way, completed.
(/) Ziecher strut bar
Front brace ala E500 to complete square the ziecher bar starts.
(/) H&R springs from previous go fast car
(/) Bilstein sport from previous go fast car.
(/) Swapping out subframe complete from old go fast car to new one. All of the rubber was new and frankly was easier to drop rear end than pulling the ASD out.
(x) DIY camber links from speedway (found that 1/2" bolt setup was a near perfect fit and should avoid the screeching people have reported.
(/) E55 AMG rear sway bar 20mm
(/) SL600 front sway bar 30mm
(/) SL600 334mm/300mm brake config coming with appropriate m/c - booster as well.
Getting turbo manifold (probably KKD? Since f-tune is busy from spring sale).
Having 3" turbo back made here.
Mating my Dieselmeken 125cc pump with HX35.
Not sure what to do about I/C, the one I had was 3" piping and seemed overkill but is sitting waiting for me to use free of charge.
Getting my 87 300E trans rebuilt
Bets on what goes first? NA engine or trans? Both?
There is some minor interior stuff that needs work as well.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Got a new one, I'll update with pics and progress soon. Been working on rear end so far.
Things to do, under way, completed.
(/) Ziecher strut bar
Front brace ala E500 to complete square the ziecher bar starts.
(/) H&R springs from previous go fast car
(/) Bilstein sport from previous go fast car.
(/) Swapping out subframe complete from old go fast car to new one. All of the rubber was new and frankly was easier to drop rear end than pulling the ASD out.
(x) DIY camber links from speedway (found that 1/2" bolt setup was a near perfect fit and should avoid the screeching people have reported.
(/) E55 AMG rear sway bar 20mm
(/) SL600 front sway bar 30mm
(/) SL600 334mm/300mm brake config coming with appropriate m/c - booster as well.
Getting turbo manifold (probably KKD? Since f-tune is busy from spring sale).
Having 3" turbo back made here.
Mating my Dieselmeken 125cc pump with HX35.
Not sure what to do about I/C, the one I had was 3" piping and seemed overkill but is sitting waiting for me to use free of charge.
Getting my 87 300E trans rebuilt
Bets on what goes first? NA engine or trans? Both?
There is some minor interior stuff that needs work as well.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Do you still have that 12cm HX30?
(07-26-2016, 09:25 AM)bigblue Sounds like another great 124. Is KKD still offering the 606 manifold? Doesn't seem available.
I reached out to him here and he has them still.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(07-26-2016, 09:25 AM)bigblue Sounds like another great 124. Is KKD still offering the 606 manifold? Doesn't seem available.
I reached out to him here and he has them still.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Booster/mc/calipers came into day. The calipers are huge, the rear calipers are bigger than the front ones that are coming off!
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(07-26-2016, 10:48 PM)winmutt Booster/mc/calipers came into day. The calipers are huge, the rear calipers are bigger than the front ones that are coming off!
Sounds good! Do you have any photos yet?
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
(07-26-2016, 10:48 PM)winmutt Booster/mc/calipers came into day. The calipers are huge, the rear calipers are bigger than the front ones that are coming off!
Sounds good! Do you have any photos yet?
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
I never said it because I didn't want to be a dick but I thought your IC was a restriction. The '95 will have a thinner condenser giving you more room for a tried and true IC setup behind the grille.
raysorenson
07-27-2016, 02:54 PM #9Check with whipple to see what he thought of the KKD manifold in a W124 (he still had to fab). You could always put that DPUK abomination adapter on your stock 606 manifold while waiting for F-tune to get caught up.
I never said it because I didn't want to be a dick but I thought your IC was a restriction. The '95 will have a thinner condenser giving you more room for a tried and true IC setup behind the grille.
(07-27-2016, 02:54 PM)raysorenson Check with whipple to see what he thought of the KKD manifold in a W124 (he still had to fab). You could always put that DPUK abomination adapter on your stock 606 manifold while waiting for F-tune to get caught up.
I never said it because I didn't want to be a dick but I thought your IC was a restriction. The '95 will have a thinner condenser giving you more room for a tried and true IC setup behind the grille.
LOL everyone has opinions! It was a $65 IC so chances are you are right!
What tried and true setup is that?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(07-27-2016, 02:54 PM)raysorenson Check with whipple to see what he thought of the KKD manifold in a W124 (he still had to fab). You could always put that DPUK abomination adapter on your stock 606 manifold while waiting for F-tune to get caught up.
I never said it because I didn't want to be a dick but I thought your IC was a restriction. The '95 will have a thinner condenser giving you more room for a tried and true IC setup behind the grille.
LOL everyone has opinions! It was a $65 IC so chances are you are right!
What tried and true setup is that?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
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Internal flow area of the charge air channels is too small for the application. The end tanks offered a very short transition from charge tubing IC core. It is a significant restriction. Once restriction gets to a certain point, you're better off with no intercooler at all. If you do the math on this page, you'll see the internal flow area is way, way too small. Factor in the fact that these engine need a lot of air to make their HP and the issue only gets worse.
The angle of the IC requires the cooling air to change direction to pass through. A behind the grill setup will have the air go straight through the IC and have the benefit of forced air from the cooling fan.
raysorenson
07-31-2016, 09:11 AM #11
Internal flow area of the charge air channels is too small for the application. The end tanks offered a very short transition from charge tubing IC core. It is a significant restriction. Once restriction gets to a certain point, you're better off with no intercooler at all. If you do the math on this page, you'll see the internal flow area is way, way too small. Factor in the fact that these engine need a lot of air to make their HP and the issue only gets worse.
The angle of the IC requires the cooling air to change direction to pass through. A behind the grill setup will have the air go straight through the IC and have the benefit of forced air from the cooling fan.
I favor the vertical flow intercoolers as opposed the the horizontal flow IC's because the offer more charge air channel area and shorter charge air runs, but that's on-paper talk. It's hard to ignore the success of the horizontal flow setups.
raysorenson
08-01-2016, 08:12 PM #13The "tried and true" comment? I meant behind the grille, above the bumper. Get as thick a core as you can fit with decent end tanks. Basically, all the builds that make good power without cutting the front bumper off have a similar A/A IC setup.
I favor the vertical flow intercoolers as opposed the the horizontal flow IC's because the offer more charge air channel area and shorter charge air runs, but that's on-paper talk. It's hard to ignore the success of the horizontal flow setups.
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