STD Tuning Engine OM606.962 Lumpy Idle

OM606.962 Lumpy Idle

OM606.962 Lumpy Idle

 
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Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
08-08-2016, 07:46 AM #1
My 606 always runs on 5 when cold, the DV's were weeping quite badly so I replaced the 6.no O-rings and copper washers and the fuel leakage has stopped but the lumpy idle remains..

When thoroughly warmed up it idles perfectly, and even when cold holding the revs just above idle it runs perfectly..

It has been suggested this could actually be a worn / faulty DV causing the issue, so I'm thinking crack each injector in turn and identify the faulty cylinder/injection line, but it won't identify potentially a worn injector (is this possible?).

Assuming it's a worn DV can I just buy a single DV from say Dieselmekken?

Interestingly it does run smoother and (feels) more powerful now the seals are replaced..

Anyone with a similar experience?

Beers, H.

[Image: dv1.jpg]

[Image: dv2.jpg]




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
08-08-2016, 07:46 AM #1

My 606 always runs on 5 when cold, the DV's were weeping quite badly so I replaced the 6.no O-rings and copper washers and the fuel leakage has stopped but the lumpy idle remains..

When thoroughly warmed up it idles perfectly, and even when cold holding the revs just above idle it runs perfectly..

It has been suggested this could actually be a worn / faulty DV causing the issue, so I'm thinking crack each injector in turn and identify the faulty cylinder/injection line, but it won't identify potentially a worn injector (is this possible?).

Assuming it's a worn DV can I just buy a single DV from say Dieselmekken?

Interestingly it does run smoother and (feels) more powerful now the seals are replaced..

Anyone with a similar experience?

Beers, H.

[Image: dv1.jpg]

[Image: dv2.jpg]





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

TurboTim
Holset

457
08-08-2016, 08:09 AM #2
Why dont you think its a glow plug? If you are convinced its a DV swap it with another cylinder and see if the misfire moves.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
08-08-2016, 08:09 AM #2

Why dont you think its a glow plug? If you are convinced its a DV swap it with another cylinder and see if the misfire moves.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
08-08-2016, 09:16 AM #3
sometimes tight too much the DV holder , causes the plunguer barrel missalignment , result is about the rack recovery , causing erratic idle.
it is a guess, many things can be causing that misfire. cylinder 6 correct?

FD,
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barrote
08-08-2016, 09:16 AM #3

sometimes tight too much the DV holder , causes the plunguer barrel missalignment , result is about the rack recovery , causing erratic idle.
it is a guess, many things can be causing that misfire. cylinder 6 correct?


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Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
08-08-2016, 12:05 PM #4
(08-08-2016, 08:09 AM)TurboTim Why dont you think its a glow plug? If you are convinced its a DV swap it with another cylinder and see if the misfire moves.

Because after even 5-10 minutes of driving (fully warmed up) it still idles on 5, after 10-15 minutes of driving it will then idle normally.

Far too long for the chambers to not be heated?




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
08-08-2016, 12:05 PM #4

(08-08-2016, 08:09 AM)TurboTim Why dont you think its a glow plug? If you are convinced its a DV swap it with another cylinder and see if the misfire moves.

Because after even 5-10 minutes of driving (fully warmed up) it still idles on 5, after 10-15 minutes of driving it will then idle normally.

Far too long for the chambers to not be heated?





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Suitko
W210 OM606

7
08-08-2016, 04:21 PM #5
Yes that is too long. I had bad glowplug on cylinder 2 and even in winter at -15°C it started to run on all 6 after minute or two.
Suitko
08-08-2016, 04:21 PM #5

Yes that is too long. I had bad glowplug on cylinder 2 and even in winter at -15°C it started to run on all 6 after minute or two.

starynovy
Holset

338
08-10-2016, 12:20 PM #6
Delivery valves and springs are still available from Mercedes dealer, so would not bother with dieselmeken. ca. 45€/piece.

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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
starynovy
08-10-2016, 12:20 PM #6

Delivery valves and springs are still available from Mercedes dealer, so would not bother with dieselmeken. ca. 45€/piece.


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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
08-14-2016, 08:42 AM #7
(08-10-2016, 12:20 PM)starynovy Delivery valves and springs are still available from Mercedes dealer, so would not bother with dieselmeken. ca. 45€/piece.

Great thanks!




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
08-14-2016, 08:42 AM #7

(08-10-2016, 12:20 PM)starynovy Delivery valves and springs are still available from Mercedes dealer, so would not bother with dieselmeken. ca. 45€/piece.

Great thanks!





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Bigpanda16
K26-2

26
08-15-2016, 11:38 AM #8
It could be simply working the air out of that cylinder's dv system. My 602 does the same thing, it coughs and misses and smokes until it works the air out of the system. Even on a hot crank after it has been run, it will do it again until all the air is bled out the return system.
It smooths out after a few minutes of running

78 300D, 87 190D, 94 E320, 95 E300D
Bigpanda16
08-15-2016, 11:38 AM #8

It could be simply working the air out of that cylinder's dv system. My 602 does the same thing, it coughs and misses and smokes until it works the air out of the system. Even on a hot crank after it has been run, it will do it again until all the air is bled out the return system.
It smooths out after a few minutes of running


78 300D, 87 190D, 94 E320, 95 E300D

Tobulus
GT2256V

136
08-17-2016, 07:04 AM #9
I would start with cracking each injector line on the cold running engine to see, if its one cylinder that is not firing or an injection problem
Tobulus
08-17-2016, 07:04 AM #9

I would start with cracking each injector line on the cold running engine to see, if its one cylinder that is not firing or an injection problem

 
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