G-wagen , om605 , 6mm , holset
G-wagen , om605 , 6mm , holset
(05-12-2015, 05:41 AM)MrHope biggest problem is that the w460 g-wagen biggest engine is the 300D 88hp and 280E with 154hp and mercedes dont allow any bigger engine than that.
or you can increse tq with 10% and hp with 20% from the cars original engine.
if you register the car as Modified you can get more hp and unlimited tq , as thay just have a limit hp/kg and in that case the gwagen has no problem as its quite heavy! but to do that you have to change the braking system to. and bolt on stuff is not allowed, must be custom made, even if it means put smaller brakes on its ok!! really stupid rule that only proves that someone behind a desk just wanted to make a rule!
I had W460 with M117 5.0 V8 installed and tried to make it legal.....impossible....
A friend of mine (Robert) has R107 SLC with M117 5.6 twin turbo in Sweden and it`s legal....dyno result without boost
Turbos pushed charge air to atmosphere
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(05-12-2015, 05:41 AM)MrHope biggest problem is that the w460 g-wagen biggest engine is the 300D 88hp and 280E with 154hp and mercedes dont allow any bigger engine than that.
or you can increse tq with 10% and hp with 20% from the cars original engine.
if you register the car as Modified you can get more hp and unlimited tq , as thay just have a limit hp/kg and in that case the gwagen has no problem as its quite heavy! but to do that you have to change the braking system to. and bolt on stuff is not allowed, must be custom made, even if it means put smaller brakes on its ok!! really stupid rule that only proves that someone behind a desk just wanted to make a rule!
I had W460 with M117 5.0 V8 installed and tried to make it legal.....impossible....
A friend of mine (Robert) has R107 SLC with M117 5.6 twin turbo in Sweden and it`s legal....dyno result without boost
Turbos pushed charge air to atmosphere
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(12-31-2014, 01:15 PM)MrHope Santa came by!
It´s a Holset HX35 specialbulit with a smaller garrett turbine.
And pretreaded 1/8" hole for tempsensor.
But i will start with the original turbo and when its registered with the engine swap i will start fitting the holset.
![[Image: hx35fender.jpg]](http://www.lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/hx35fender.jpg)
![[Image: hx35.jpg]](http://www.lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/hx35.jpg)
The turbo took a small exhaust housing, or also took a smaller garrett turbine?
bruno_pinho
08-03-2015, 10:15 AM #52(12-31-2014, 01:15 PM)MrHope Santa came by!
It´s a Holset HX35 specialbulit with a smaller garrett turbine.
And pretreaded 1/8" hole for tempsensor.
But i will start with the original turbo and when its registered with the engine swap i will start fitting the holset.
The turbo took a small exhaust housing, or also took a smaller garrett turbine?
Muuris: if i get it it trough inspection with a turbo it just says "om605 with turbo" so what turbo i do mount later wouldnt be a problem.
Muuris: if i get it it trough inspection with a turbo it just says "om605 with turbo" so what turbo i do mount later wouldnt be a problem.
Customized gearbox mount!
Customized shift linkages!
fitted the c250 turbo radiator!
Test run! Seems to work wery good! probably little more than 200hk
But i has a high sound when full trottle! (no exhaust system)
So i made a exhaustsystem with 2,5" pipe and one damper, and exhaust output just before the right rear tire.
tested again, and it didnt get so much quieter....? .. maby better airfilter would make it quiet?
Finaly !
Customized gearbox mount!
Customized shift linkages!
fitted the c250 turbo radiator!
Test run! Seems to work wery good! probably little more than 200hk
But i has a high sound when full trottle! (no exhaust system)
So i made a exhaustsystem with 2,5" pipe and one damper, and exhaust output just before the right rear tire.
tested again, and it didnt get so much quieter....? .. maby better airfilter would make it quiet?
![[Image: exhaust.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/exhaust.jpg)
And looks okay! its stainless pipe 3"
![[Image: exhaustpipe.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/exhaustpipe.jpg)
Made the gearbox mount spacer/adapter , the new gearbox has the mount off center.
![[Image: gearboxbracket.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/gearboxbracket.jpg)
Installation almost looks like original, besides missing the fan scroud.
![[Image: finished605turbo.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/finished605turbo.jpg)
Made a 2,5" Exhaust from scrap i had layin around, sounds really nice! (had missed to weld a big gap after the turbo when last testdrive! much more quiet now!)
And looks okay! its stainless pipe 3"
Made the gearbox mount spacer/adapter , the new gearbox has the mount off center.
Installation almost looks like original, besides missing the fan scroud.
The car is now legal with the om605 turbo, 150hp and 280nm! (Mine maby has a few more horses)
Standard om617 300 had 88hp/172nm
Did even get it registrated with the rear seat so now ok with driver and 4 passengers!
And the new oris tow hitch registrated with 3000kg towing capacity!
Did pass the registration today!
The car is now legal with the om605 turbo, 150hp and 280nm! (Mine maby has a few more horses)
Standard om617 300 had 88hp/172nm
Did even get it registrated with the rear seat so now ok with driver and 4 passengers!
And the new oris tow hitch registrated with 3000kg towing capacity!
But i felt the stock turbo was to small (constantly 0,4 bar when driving, and high egt when pulling a trailer or uphill)
i did have another turbo that i was going to try!
Someone else here built a c-class with this kind of adapter so i gave it i try! triangular to T3 adapter and lifted it up so i would clear the shockmount.
![[Image: t3adapterblack.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/t3adapterblack.jpg)
Car runs great and feels wery light! (it dindnt feel light before i can promise u that!)
But i felt the stock turbo was to small (constantly 0,4 bar when driving, and high egt when pulling a trailer or uphill)
i did have another turbo that i was going to try!
Someone else here built a c-class with this kind of adapter so i gave it i try! triangular to T3 adapter and lifted it up so i would clear the shockmount.
Its a T3 turbo from china, i has A/R 0.63 exhaust and A/R 0.50 Compressor
had to make a new
Oil feed line
Return line
New downpipe 2,5"
Boost pipe to intake 2,5"
![[Image: nyturbon.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/nyturbon.jpg)
And the turbo is fitted!
Its a T3 turbo from china, i has A/R 0.63 exhaust and A/R 0.50 Compressor
had to make a new
Oil feed line
Return line
New downpipe 2,5"
Boost pipe to intake 2,5"
and fitted a cheap air filter that i had from another car... would like a better filter later on.
![[Image: nyaturbon.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/nyaturbon.jpg)
Painted the boost pipe black!
and fitted a cheap air filter that i had from another car... would like a better filter later on.
But i feel the boost comes to slow.... and maximum boost is 1,5bar.... i would want to reach minimum 2bars...
![[Image: nyaturbonute.jpg]](http://lindbergz.com/uploaded/g605/nyaturbonute.jpg)
Its fires up nicely!
But i feel the boost comes to slow.... and maximum boost is 1,5bar.... i would want to reach minimum 2bars...
(10-03-2016, 02:29 AM)MrHope But i feel the boost comes to slow.... and maximum boost is 1,5bar.... i would want to reach minimum 2bars...
A post from the past
(10-03-2016, 02:14 AM)MrHope Its a T3 turbo from china, i has A/R 0.63 exhaust and A/R 0.50 Compressor
You get what you pay for. Even a genuine T3 is 30 years old tech, don't expect it to be quick spooling or to be capable of high pressure ratios. If you plot calculated points to compressor map, I'm quite sure you'll find that your safe max boost is less than 1,5 bars (I'd say close to 1 bar). Besides, with 6mm elements there's no reason for that high boost anyway.
(10-03-2016, 02:29 AM)MrHope But i feel the boost comes to slow.... and maximum boost is 1,5bar.... i would want to reach minimum 2bars...
A post from the past
(10-03-2016, 02:14 AM)MrHope Its a T3 turbo from china, i has A/R 0.63 exhaust and A/R 0.50 Compressor
You get what you pay for. Even a genuine T3 is 30 years old tech, don't expect it to be quick spooling or to be capable of high pressure ratios. If you plot calculated points to compressor map, I'm quite sure you'll find that your safe max boost is less than 1,5 bars (I'd say close to 1 bar). Besides, with 6mm elements there's no reason for that high boost anyway.
i did some adjusting on the outside alda and now the car smokes a little black at first when full trottle before boost and blacksmoke stops before 1bar. and its not boosting more than 1bar now.
i have only adjusted alda and boost dropped from 1,5bar to 1,0bar.
no blacksmoke at 1.0bar with alda set on full. do you think its using all 95cc of fuel at 1,0bar?
the car is nice to drive and feels light and fast even tho it is 2200kg in actual weight.
i just wish the boost would come faster.
Muuris:
i did some adjusting on the outside alda and now the car smokes a little black at first when full trottle before boost and blacksmoke stops before 1bar. and its not boosting more than 1bar now.
i have only adjusted alda and boost dropped from 1,5bar to 1,0bar.
no blacksmoke at 1.0bar with alda set on full. do you think its using all 95cc of fuel at 1,0bar?
the car is nice to drive and feels light and fast even tho it is 2200kg in actual weight.
i just wish the boost would come faster.
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Wastegate must be fully closed before desired boost level.
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Are you controlling boost pressure with solenoid valve?
Wastegate must be fully closed before desired boost level.
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Wastegate is mecanicly locked so its always closed now, boosts 1,3 bar at most.
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Wastegate is mecanicly locked so its always closed now, boosts 1,3 bar at most.
Edit: We have similar setup.
![[Image: 24463-Photo_21-10-2016_14_32_55.jpg]](http://pildipark.clubmb.ee/pilt/24463-Photo_21-10-2016_14_32_55.jpg)
![[Image: 47759-Photo_21-10-2016_14_32_59.jpg]](http://pildipark.clubmb.ee/pilt/47759-Photo_21-10-2016_14_32_59.jpg)
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Ok
Edit: We have similar setup.
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is it watercooled intake?
in my next w460 build i will go for the 6-cylinder!
Nice build!
is it watercooled intake?
in my next w460 build i will go for the 6-cylinder!
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Yes. Watercooled intake with Laminova cores.
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Addi: look at the pics in my first page, its all wire no linkages atall.
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