W210 200 CDI, 200-250 HP/ 450-500 Nm
W210 200 CDI, 200-250 HP/ 450-500 Nm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
I think its still less than OM613 which has 73mm3 and six cylinders but you are very close.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
320CDI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECuAvosYASU
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
I don´t know. As I wrote...not full rpm.
320CDI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECuAvosYASU
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
Take a look:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
I compared your 0-180 time which is roughly 33s to my stock run and mine is 23s. 0-100 is almost the same at 8-9 seconds but in higher gear you slow down rapidly.
Take a look:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
I have to make some stand for my phone - manual gearbox, only two hands
But you must have little bit more power than original...? Without catalyst, EGR...
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
Really nice. Soon I have to make a video with higher RPMs. I think with higher RPMs is it same now
I have to make some stand for my phone - manual gearbox, only two hands
But you must have little bit more power than original...? Without catalyst, EGR...
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
Well after all that time invested into the engine I really hope it has at least like-new stock power. Catalyst was not clodged so it may add some MPG on casual drive but hardly any noticeable power increase. Cant wait to start playing with maps.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
https://goo.gl/photos/h4aJKgbMa48sqgTLA
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
160-220, 5.gear till 4100rpm, winter tyres:
https://goo.gl/photos/h4aJKgbMa48sqgTLA
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
I used a stopwach on both videos
0-100:
You - 7,5s
Me - 7,6s.
0-180:
You - 21,8s
Me - 22,7s.
I think that both are pretty good. Original 320CDI 0-100: 8,3s
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
So, finally here is my try 0-200 km/h - 29s.
I used a stopwach on both videos
0-100:
You - 7,5s
Me - 7,6s.
0-180:
You - 21,8s
Me - 22,7s.
I think that both are pretty good. Original 320CDI 0-100: 8,3s
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
How is it going? In the meanwhile I got my flasher, so i remaped it. I logged with diagnostics that it is injecting 100mm3 of diesel and 2470mBar of boost. Well that should do theoreticaly 198kW. It drives like crazy.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
I have to do something with turbo outlet silencer and completely block the EGR. I think there is still air leak somewhere. And after this I will go for remap. Now I am like locomotive. I want at least 250HP/500Nm. I think, It´s possible with these parts.
I installed also new bigger front brakes. 345×30mm discs. Really nice brake power.
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
Wow, nice numbers - go to dyno
I have to do something with turbo outlet silencer and completely block the EGR. I think there is still air leak somewhere. And after this I will go for remap. Now I am like locomotive. I want at least 250HP/500Nm. I think, It´s possible with these parts.
I installed also new bigger front brakes. 345×30mm discs. Really nice brake power.
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
Yes, I did away with that silencer. Well it did have some function to it, now when it boost it makes a lot of noise in IC audiable inside of car. Also mounted 550x230 FMIC right behind the grill (mounted upwards). IAT did not go above 50°C on long WOTs.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
IAT is very very good also.
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
Its hissing and making all kind of airflowing related noises in that big IC.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
I would say that sound is anything but better. Its hissing and making all kind of airflowing related noises in that big IC.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
Well I doubt that silencer had any impact on power since its inside diameter is the same that of turbine. I got rid of it because I welded on turbo to acomodate 63mm silicone hose but in your case I would leave it be and do its job. Certainly it will do no harm to power output at 200-230HP. Somewhere I read it makes sense to delete it above 300PS.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
Yeah also.. since you have your injectors remanufactured thats one less thing to worry about. But talking out of experience, install EGT gauge. My happiness with car did not last long, I have melted one piston. Dont know yet if some injector let go or it melted with heat. Therefore I say EGT gauge is a must, car did not smoke so no means to know what is actually going on.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
I think that the engine has now quicker response but I drove only some kilometers. Tuikku said that this silencer limits the air and power to +-300HP ...but in OM648. 300/6=50, 50*4=200HP...So, I will see.
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
much apreciated, clutches is a hard issue to solve in MB´s , at least for cheap .
thanks
FD,
Powered by tractor fuel
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
(11-22-2016, 12:16 PM)MartinB I am driving with it. I sent video with acceleration. Little bit vibration in acceleration in about 3000-3500rpm but nothing horrible. Idling absolutely smooth.
Make noise in neutral?
bruno_pinho
11-28-2016, 06:29 AM #128(11-22-2016, 12:16 PM)MartinB I am driving with it. I sent video with acceleration. Little bit vibration in acceleration in about 3000-3500rpm but nothing horrible. Idling absolutely smooth.
Make noise in neutral?
(12-04-2016, 01:37 PM)MartinB Because of heat stress and lowering CR. Didn´t measured it. Original is 18:1 now about 16.5:1 but i don´t know.Is it smokes on idle now? Or smoke problems during wot? Because of not re-entrant bow shape, without lip. I want to lower CR on similar engine, but everyone told me that eliminate a lip not good idea because of bad air fuel mixing, not full combustion and smoke. What's your experience with lower CR and "Mexican Hat" bowl design? What about cold start? If you have problems with cold start, you can try to use glow plugs from later OM646 "Evo" engine, it's ceramic.
(12-04-2016, 01:37 PM)MartinB Because of heat stress and lowering CR. Didn´t measured it. Original is 18:1 now about 16.5:1 but i don´t know.Is it smokes on idle now? Or smoke problems during wot? Because of not re-entrant bow shape, without lip. I want to lower CR on similar engine, but everyone told me that eliminate a lip not good idea because of bad air fuel mixing, not full combustion and smoke. What's your experience with lower CR and "Mexican Hat" bowl design? What about cold start? If you have problems with cold start, you can try to use glow plugs from later OM646 "Evo" engine, it's ceramic.
Another power increase will be soon.
100-200km/h: 15,6s
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
Few more pictures and video. Only update is bigger rear brakes. Car behaves still very nicely. Power is ~195kW, RP 1650bar, boost 2.3bar, IQ 120+mm3
Another power increase will be soon.
100-200km/h: 15,6s
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
![[Image: 11jrx5d.jpg]](http://i64.tinypic.com/11jrx5d.jpg)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
Nozzles are almost out of breath and I dont see putting another 500€ in it for bigger ones so I think we will settle with round 300HP. Not to mention that modded GT23V..another €€€€.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
(06-16-2017, 03:35 PM)MartinB That's huge amount of torque. Turbo is GT2564V with 11 blades?
Compressor is orig size 6+6, but billet.
I do not like "owersize" compressors in small engines, nothing but harm ...
Boost is 2,8bar - practically no smoke, at all.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
What kind of questions are these?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
(06-17-2017, 07:35 AM)MartinB Do you think that the turbo will last this boost for a long time? I was wondering for GTD2060VZ in my car. Btw 350PS is ~155mm3?
I have no idea for that, ~160mm.
BSR have driven two seasons with those injectors.
Me and a couple of others more than two years now.
In Finland there are at least two places, where to buy, but maybe you can ask from dieselmekken, he is also closer.
(06-17-2017, 07:35 AM)MartinB Do you think that the turbo will last this boost for a long time? I was wondering for GTD2060VZ in my car. Btw 350PS is ~155mm3?
I have no idea for that, ~160mm.
BSR have driven two seasons with those injectors.
Me and a couple of others more than two years now.
In Finland there are at least two places, where to buy, but maybe you can ask from dieselmekken, he is also closer.
How it´s going with your ML420CDI? I bought S400CDI and can not wait for stage 1.
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
It´s not that hard to have bigger nozzles. Maybe I don´t know if I want to spend another money for another 50PS but I will see :-D
How it´s going with your ML420CDI? I bought S400CDI and can not wait for stage 1.
W210 E200CDI 185kW Manual, W203 C30 CDI AMG 210kW Manual
![[Image: 2yjyk50.jpg]](http://i68.tinypic.com/2yjyk50.jpg)
2 Guest(s)
2 Guest(s)