Om617a spin on oil filter
Om617a spin on oil filter
03-31-2017, 05:00 PM
#2
(03-30-2017, 09:57 PM)Evenglass I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
Are you using the OEM base that attaches to the block? If so, you will need to plug the passageway that the tube plugs into. If I recall correctly (it has been a few years sense I did mine) I made a plug with an o-ring that I slid in (horizontally) somewhere behind the cover plate. A If you leave it open, oil will by pass the filter and go back through that passage to the crankcase making the oil pressure SUPER low if non existent.
(03-30-2017, 09:57 PM)Evenglass I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
Are you using the OEM base that attaches to the block? If so, you will need to plug the passageway that the tube plugs into. If I recall correctly (it has been a few years sense I did mine) I made a plug with an o-ring that I slid in (horizontally) somewhere behind the cover plate. A If you leave it open, oil will by pass the filter and go back through that passage to the crankcase making the oil pressure SUPER low if non existent.
03-31-2017, 06:31 PM
#3
Silly question but why not use the OEM filter housing and relocate it? It's something that certainly helps the life of these engines.
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
The system is designed so the top half of the oil filter is a bypass section, where a part of the oil flow goes through a tiny hole in the tube and returns to the crankcase. I think there might be a check valve in the system to stop air getting in and draining the entire filter housing out. (at least that's my theory going by my car and its oil pressure building delay with my turbo oil supply)
Silly question but why not use the OEM filter housing and relocate it? It's something that certainly helps the life of these engines.
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
03-31-2017, 10:41 PM
#4
(03-31-2017, 06:31 PM)NZScott The system is designed so the top half of the oil filter is a bypass section, where a part of the oil flow goes through a tiny hole in the tube and returns to the crankcase. I think there might be a check valve in the system to stop air getting in and draining the entire filter housing out. (at least that's my theory going by my car and its oil pressure building delay with my turbo oil supply)I literally have no room in my engine compartment. And not much room anywhere else for that matter.
Silly question but why not use the OEM filter housing and relocate it? It's something that certainly helps the life of these engines.
(03-31-2017, 06:31 PM)NZScott The system is designed so the top half of the oil filter is a bypass section, where a part of the oil flow goes through a tiny hole in the tube and returns to the crankcase. I think there might be a check valve in the system to stop air getting in and draining the entire filter housing out. (at least that's my theory going by my car and its oil pressure building delay with my turbo oil supply)I literally have no room in my engine compartment. And not much room anywhere else for that matter.
Silly question but why not use the OEM filter housing and relocate it? It's something that certainly helps the life of these engines.
03-31-2017, 10:44 PM
#5
(03-31-2017, 05:00 PM)OM616Yes, I am using the base. The info I needed. How did yours turn out? Any pictures ?(03-30-2017, 09:57 PM)Evenglass I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
Are you using the OEM base that attaches to the block? If so, you will need to plug the passageway that the tube plugs into. If I recall correctly (it has been a few years sense I did mine) I made a plug with an o-ring that I slid in (horizontally) somewhere behind the cover plate. A If you leave it open, oil will by pass the filter and go back through that passage to the crankcase making the oil pressure SUPER low if non existent.
(03-31-2017, 05:00 PM)OM616Yes, I am using the base. The info I needed. How did yours turn out? Any pictures ?(03-30-2017, 09:57 PM)Evenglass I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
Are you using the OEM base that attaches to the block? If so, you will need to plug the passageway that the tube plugs into. If I recall correctly (it has been a few years sense I did mine) I made a plug with an o-ring that I slid in (horizontally) somewhere behind the cover plate. A If you leave it open, oil will by pass the filter and go back through that passage to the crankcase making the oil pressure SUPER low if non existent.
03-31-2017, 11:57 PM
#6
(03-31-2017, 10:41 PM)Evenglass I literally have no room in my engine compartment. And not much room anywhere else for that matter.
Fair enough
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
(03-31-2017, 10:41 PM)Evenglass I literally have no room in my engine compartment. And not much room anywhere else for that matter.
Fair enough
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
04-01-2017, 11:36 AM
#7
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
04-01-2017, 02:05 PM
#8
(04-01-2017, 11:36 AM)MFSuper90 I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
Someone on here was making some aluminum plates for relocating the original oil filter housing. Maybe you can find the source. Very important to retain the function of the original oil filter housing.
Zeeman
(04-01-2017, 11:36 AM)MFSuper90 I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
Someone on here was making some aluminum plates for relocating the original oil filter housing. Maybe you can find the source. Very important to retain the function of the original oil filter housing.
Zeeman
04-02-2017, 05:55 AM
#11
(04-01-2017, 02:05 PM)zeemanRelocation is not an option. There's nothing special about the Mercedes drop in cartridge. The only piece I'll be replacing is the cartridge with a spin on element. I'll just have to make sure flow is at least equal.(04-01-2017, 11:36 AM)MFSuper90 I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
Someone on here was making some aluminum plates for relocating the original oil filter housing. Maybe you can find the source. Very important to retain the function of the original oil filter housing.
Zeeman
(04-01-2017, 02:05 PM)zeemanRelocation is not an option. There's nothing special about the Mercedes drop in cartridge. The only piece I'll be replacing is the cartridge with a spin on element. I'll just have to make sure flow is at least equal.(04-01-2017, 11:36 AM)MFSuper90 I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
Someone on here was making some aluminum plates for relocating the original oil filter housing. Maybe you can find the source. Very important to retain the function of the original oil filter housing.
Zeeman
04-03-2017, 01:32 PM
#12
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-03-2017, 01:32 PM #12So uh, should I make a run of relocation plates?
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-04-2017, 05:54 AM
#13
(04-03-2017, 01:32 PM)Simpler=Better So uh, should I make a run of relocation plates?This sells a nice on for cheap. I just don't have anywhere good relocate to.
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/mobile/...de=A-MB111
(04-03-2017, 01:32 PM)Simpler=Better So uh, should I make a run of relocation plates?This sells a nice on for cheap. I just don't have anywhere good relocate to.
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/mobile/...de=A-MB111
04-04-2017, 10:22 AM
#14
http://doomsdaydiesel.net/PRODUCTS.html
Saves me from another side project
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-04-2017, 10:22 AM #14Doomsday Diesel has them cheaper ($60):
http://doomsdaydiesel.net/PRODUCTS.html
Saves me from another side project
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-15-2017, 10:18 AM
#15
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My solution. It retains all the functionality of the factory unit but allows for alot of aftermarket options such as; 90* adapters, bypass oil systems, turbo feeds and sending units.
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My solution. It retains all the functionality of the factory unit but allows for alot of aftermarket options such as; 90* adapters, bypass oil systems, turbo feeds and sending units.
04-15-2017, 10:23 AM
#16
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04-17-2017, 12:43 PM
#20
Get some glove tips over the onjectors before something gets in them!
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-17-2017, 12:43 PM #20It's purdy!
Get some glove tips over the onjectors before something gets in them!
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-17-2017, 03:30 PM
#21
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Just a suggestion for the plate.... make sure you use either steel or aviation grade aluminum and make sure it's thick enough. I have a few plates and I got some from Walt years ago, and thicker seems a safer bet.
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
04-17-2017, 10:11 PM
#23
(04-17-2017, 03:30 PM)Greazzer Just a suggestion for the plate.... make sure you use either steel or aviation grade aluminum and make sure it's thick enough. I have a few plates and I got some from Walt years ago, and thicker seems a safer bet.What plate?
04-18-2017, 10:25 AM
#24
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
The adaptor plate which goes against the block so you can relocate the oil filter housing, either stock or newer style.
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
04-18-2017, 02:02 PM
#25
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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?
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Ex: 525tds 130kW, C250TD 160kW, E320CDI 200kW, ML400CDI 230kW, A6 R5TDI 130kW
Now: Q7 V8TDI 240kW, 320d 150kW, 335d 210kW
04-18-2017, 02:45 PM
#26
(04-18-2017, 02:02 PM)starynovy So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?
Poke a hole in the top and it will drain into the block.
But yes, I make a huge mess on my 4.0L Jeep very oil change.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-18-2017, 02:45 PM #26(04-18-2017, 02:02 PM)starynovy So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?
Poke a hole in the top and it will drain into the block.
But yes, I make a huge mess on my 4.0L Jeep very oil change.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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