OM 642 + GTB 2260 VKLR
OM 642 + GTB 2260 VKLR
look what I got in the mail
now let's see what DPF removal, EGR blocking, GTB2260VKLR & a tuner with experience will get out off this diesel...
This is possibly one of the best small frame vnt turbos currently available! And the only ballbearing vnt at the moment....
Have fun with it, and please take some pictures without the caps ;-)
(02-06-2012, 05:44 AM)Rub87 So.. maybe we should open a new topic:
OM642 + Alternative Fuels: HCCI Combustion
(02-06-2012, 05:44 AM)Rub87 So.. maybe we should open a new topic:
OM642 + Alternative Fuels: HCCI Combustion
(02-06-2012, 02:34 PM)Rub87 It's magic
(02-06-2012, 02:34 PM)Rub87 It's magic
Correct.
Turbo is from latest 350CDI Bluetec engine with 265hp.
Regards, Alex
(02-07-2012, 02:48 AM)majesty78 Correct.
Turbo is from latest 350CDI Bluetec engine with 265hp.
Regards, Alex
It's not exactly plug & play ...
Turbo mount is different
New vs old, new turbo mount has a hole for the watercooling
Water outlet in the turbo
Plugged the bottem water feed an tapped a new one in the turbo mount
Tapped into the block to feed water to the turbo
Blocked the EGR & It fits :
Hi, so I finaly found a place where we can dyno without having any work done to the car.
It was not us but an employee from the place who was doing the pulls.
Out of 8 - 9 pulls we only had 4 good ones.
ESP was fully switched off.
First & 2nd pull, my tune wich I drive now for 30.000 km
Only in the first pull he could give full throttle without downshifting.
The computerscreen was calibrated till 210KW and it flat spotted from 3200 to 4200 rpm, so this would have been the best pull but I don't have a print out.
2nd pull was 205KW/3473RPM & 670NM/2541RPM (second page highest line)
Just a little haze out of the exhaust
Now we loaded standard map, no DPF, no cat (First page)
3th pull was 163KW/3811RPM & 429NM/2919RPM
Now I thought let's make a dyno queen so we added 10% more fuel
4th pull was 200KW/3568RPM & 665NM/2486RPM
Lots of smoke
This is where I was shure that the guy behind the wheel wasn't pushing full throttle.
Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
(10-31-2012, 01:34 PM)Turbo How do the boost level look like?
(10-31-2012, 01:34 PM)Turbo How do the boost level look like?
(10-31-2012, 06:52 PM)diesel2fast4u(10-31-2012, 01:34 PM)Turbo How do the boost level look like?
1.6 bar only, we need a 4 bar map sensor and find the calibration in the ECU to achieve higher boost levels.
You can see in the original map, the dip in the dyno sheet is because the turbo spools faster then stock, it hits the boost limit & cuts down, then picks up again...
I have one of those turbos w/ very low mileage, has a bad actuator if anyone is interested. 642's and biodiesel don't get along. MB put out a good document about how it really destroys these engines.
(10-31-2012, 06:52 PM)diesel2fast4u(10-31-2012, 01:34 PM)Turbo How do the boost level look like?
1.6 bar only, we need a 4 bar map sensor and find the calibration in the ECU to achieve higher boost levels.
You can see in the original map, the dip in the dyno sheet is because the turbo spools faster then stock, it hits the boost limit & cuts down, then picks up again...
Also make sure to correct the open and closed loop boost mappings for achieving good boost control ;-)
austincarnut I would be very interested of the turbo, please pm me if you still is interested in selling it
[quote='Austincarnut' pid='45537' dateline='1351733168']
I have one of those turbos w/ very low mileage, has a bad actuator if anyone is interested. 642's and biodiesel don't get along. MB put out a good document about how it really destroys these engines.
If possible and for a good information on this thread, and if anyone knows it, the teorical/real maximum values for:
-Injectors mm^3/hp
-mass air flow rate lb/min
-cylinder heads cfm's
-turbo boost BAR
etc...
I will do some measurements on air flow and injection soon and will post my results. If you have any please post.
(02-18-2012, 01:06 PM)diesel2fast4u It's not exactly plug & play ...
Turbo mount is different
New vs old, new turbo mount has a hole for the watercooling
Water outlet in the turbo
Plugged the bottem water feed an tapped a new one in the turbo mount
Tapped into the block to feed water to the turbo
Blocked the EGR & It fits :
(02-18-2012, 01:06 PM)diesel2fast4u It's not exactly plug & play ...
Turbo mount is different
New vs old, new turbo mount has a hole for the watercooling
Water outlet in the turbo
Plugged the bottem water feed an tapped a new one in the turbo mount
Tapped into the block to feed water to the turbo
Blocked the EGR & It fits :
(10-31-2012, 08:26 PM)Austincarnut I have one of those turbos w/ very low mileage, has a bad actuator if anyone is interested. 642's and biodiesel don't get along. MB put out a good document about how it really destroys these engines.
(10-31-2012, 08:26 PM)Austincarnut I have one of those turbos w/ very low mileage, has a bad actuator if anyone is interested. 642's and biodiesel don't get along. MB put out a good document about how it really destroys these engines.
(10-30-2012, 04:21 PM)diesel2fast4u Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
(10-30-2012, 04:21 PM)diesel2fast4u Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
(01-17-2013, 12:37 AM)majesty78(10-30-2012, 04:21 PM)diesel2fast4u Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
On W211 there should be some "dyno mode" which can be activated over cluster menu.
(01-17-2013, 12:37 AM)majesty78(10-30-2012, 04:21 PM)diesel2fast4u Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
On W211 there should be some "dyno mode" which can be activated over cluster menu.
(01-28-2013, 08:09 AM)bqik(01-17-2013, 12:37 AM)majesty78(10-30-2012, 04:21 PM)diesel2fast4u Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
On W211 there should be some "dyno mode" which can be activated over cluster menu.
yes, there is a "secret menu" and there you will find a dyno mode submenu.
regards
(01-16-2013, 02:58 PM)jaro4444(02-18-2012, 01:06 PM)diesel2fast4u It's not exactly plug & play ...
Turbo mount is different
New vs old, new turbo mount has a hole for the watercooling
Water outlet in the turbo
Plugged the bottem water feed an tapped a new one in the turbo mount
Tapped into the block to feed water to the turbo
Blocked the EGR & It fits :
Hi guys!
I have a question about mounting GTB2260VKLR on the motor OM642.920.
I know that the flanges are identical as GT2056V. I know about part number A6420961145 - turbo mount, gasket A 6421420681 and A6421420981. I know how make water output from the turbo.
My question is how make the water inlet to the turbo? Just drill a hole as shown gasket A 6421420681 in motor block?
Thanks for your help
(01-28-2013, 08:09 AM)bqik(01-17-2013, 12:37 AM)majesty78(10-30-2012, 04:21 PM)diesel2fast4u Anyone know how we can avoid the downshifting?
On W211 there should be some "dyno mode" which can be activated over cluster menu.
yes, there is a "secret menu" and there you will find a dyno mode submenu.
regards
(01-16-2013, 02:58 PM)jaro4444(02-18-2012, 01:06 PM)diesel2fast4u It's not exactly plug & play ...
Turbo mount is different
New vs old, new turbo mount has a hole for the watercooling
Water outlet in the turbo
Plugged the bottem water feed an tapped a new one in the turbo mount
Tapped into the block to feed water to the turbo
Blocked the EGR & It fits :
Hi guys!
I have a question about mounting GTB2260VKLR on the motor OM642.920.
I know that the flanges are identical as GT2056V. I know about part number A6420961145 - turbo mount, gasket A 6421420681 and A6421420981. I know how make water output from the turbo.
My question is how make the water inlet to the turbo? Just drill a hole as shown gasket A 6421420681 in motor block?
Thanks for your help
After I broke 400Hp and 900nm on my audi 3.0tdi I am picking up this project again.
Could anyone help me with:
- DAMOS file EDC16 OM642
- 4 bar Map (PNP if possible)
- 2000+ bar rail pressure sender
thanks
You will find this 400kPa MAP on OM651, costs 20€ brand new BOSCH.
(12-27-2011, 08:15 AM)diesel2fast4u look what I got in the mail
now let's see what DPF removal, EGR blocking, GTB2260VKLR & a tuner with experience will get out off this diesel...
(12-27-2011, 08:15 AM)diesel2fast4u look what I got in the mail
now let's see what DPF removal, EGR blocking, GTB2260VKLR & a tuner with experience will get out off this diesel...
I can check for you, what do you need exactly?
(04-07-2017, 08:23 AM)starynovy You will find this 400kPa MAP on OM651, costs 20€ brand new BOSCH.
(04-07-2017, 08:23 AM)starynovy You will find this 400kPa MAP on OM651, costs 20€ brand new BOSCH.
The part number for that 4 bar sensor is 0101537228.
The OM642LS rail pressure is higher on these by default, but only by 200 bar. The om651 uses 2000 bar, check this out:
http://ae-plus.com/features/mercedes-ben...sel/page:3
I haven't tried swapping the om651 sensor to the om642, not sure of the correct part number or if the threads are the same. Here are the om651 rail and sensor numbers I could find:
Fuel rail number: A6510700495
Sensor number: 9307Z521A or 55PP22-01
The original CP3 on my wk has started to make some noise (A6420700301), I just ordered a pump for the LS engine (A6420701201). Will find out soon if it is plug and play. Over time I will slowly upgrade the whole fuel system to the later type. I also have a GTB2060V (same compressor as 2260, slightly larger exhaust turbine) from a w222 and a new pedestal that I am going to swap in using your above method when I do the oil cooler seals and EGR delete. Thank you for the inspiration! Looking forward to your next maps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHexdNW_N0Y
(04-08-2017, 08:34 PM)diesel2fast4u I can check for you, what do you need exactly?
(04-08-2017, 08:34 PM)diesel2fast4u I can check for you, what do you need exactly?
(04-17-2017, 09:10 AM)Turbo(04-16-2017, 10:22 AM)WSchotty I also have a GTB2060V (same compressor as 2260, slightly larger exhaust turbine)
I suppose you mean smaller
(04-17-2017, 09:10 AM)Turbo(04-16-2017, 10:22 AM)WSchotty I also have a GTB2060V (same compressor as 2260, slightly larger exhaust turbine)
I suppose you mean smaller
(04-16-2017, 10:26 AM)Austincarnut(04-08-2017, 08:34 PM)diesel2fast4u I can check for you, what do you need exactly?
In general, We see 642's come in seized at the mains at 100K miles. They don't seem to hold up well after an oil cooler but we've had more than a few that have seized with all maintenances done and no repairs to the engine. I have a 2008 164 with one that I wish I could swap out with a 606. I guess we'd like to know if anyone was supplying oversized mains, rod bearings. Its crap that rods have to be replaced if loosened...
(04-16-2017, 10:26 AM)Austincarnut(04-08-2017, 08:34 PM)diesel2fast4u I can check for you, what do you need exactly?
In general, We see 642's come in seized at the mains at 100K miles. They don't seem to hold up well after an oil cooler but we've had more than a few that have seized with all maintenances done and no repairs to the engine. I have a 2008 164 with one that I wish I could swap out with a 606. I guess we'd like to know if anyone was supplying oversized mains, rod bearings. Its crap that rods have to be replaced if loosened...
I took the dust of the project this weekend. I moved the whole company and that was a priority
business wise to busy.
I have a company that I moved to a new place.
And I was busy with my daily audi 3.0 tdi
(04-30-2017, 11:30 PM)Turbo I was thinking of what you did to the turbo to get 400 on your daily audi 3.0 tdi or you just turn them up?
(04-30-2017, 11:30 PM)Turbo I was thinking of what you did to the turbo to get 400 on your daily audi 3.0 tdi or you just turn them up?
(06-11-2017, 11:00 AM)Josht Anymore progress on this build?
(06-11-2017, 11:00 AM)Josht Anymore progress on this build?