606 Transition Pipes
606 Transition Pipes
04-17-2017, 11:00 PM
#1
606 exhaust oval -> 2" ID pipe.
Trying to judge if it's worth the time to makeup a die set.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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04-17-2017, 11:00 PM #1How much would y'all pay for these badboys in mild steel? in stainless?
606 exhaust oval -> 2" ID pipe.
Trying to judge if it's worth the time to makeup a die set.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-18-2017, 05:53 AM
#2
Beers
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
From experience I would say 1.5" outlet would be easier to fabricate a manifold from with the space available, but to answer your question I would have bought a set off you if these were available 6 months ago!
Beers
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
04-18-2017, 11:40 AM
#3
raysorenson
04-18-2017, 11:40 AM #32" is on the big side. Unnecessary internal volume isn't good on a turbo manifold. Also transitioning to a divided T3 would be murder.
04-18-2017, 12:00 PM
#4
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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04-18-2017, 12:00 PM #4The circumference of the 606 outlets is the same as a 2.25" pipe, It would be interesting to stretch out a 1.5" pipe to 2.25"....
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-18-2017, 01:44 PM
#5
First test with the prototype die, using 2.25" exhaust pipe (1/16" wall, has a 2.125" ID)
I didn't center it properly and mangled the round end, but the oval came out pretty nice. It was a TIGHT fit with the 2.125" pipe, 2" thick wall is going to be a bear!
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-18-2017, 01:44 PM #5
First test with the prototype die, using 2.25" exhaust pipe (1/16" wall, has a 2.125" ID)
I didn't center it properly and mangled the round end, but the oval came out pretty nice. It was a TIGHT fit with the 2.125" pipe, 2" thick wall is going to be a bear!
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-19-2017, 09:50 AM
#7
(04-18-2017, 12:00 PM)Simpler=Better The circumference of the 606 outlets is the same as a 2.25" pipe, It would be interesting to stretch out a 1.5" pipe to 2.25"....
Why not just make it from 1.5" to 2.25" concentric reducers like everyone else?
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This post was last modified: 04-19-2017, 09:50 AM by Hario'.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
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(04-18-2017, 12:00 PM)Simpler=Better The circumference of the 606 outlets is the same as a 2.25" pipe, It would be interesting to stretch out a 1.5" pipe to 2.25"....
Why not just make it from 1.5" to 2.25" concentric reducers like everyone else?
[url=http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/Mercedes_Power/media/concentric%20adapters.jpg.html]
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
04-19-2017, 10:05 AM
#8
This post was last modified: 04-19-2017, 10:09 AM by Simpler=Better.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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04-19-2017, 10:05 AM #8Where the heck are you getting those? Stateside I've only been able to find cast reducers.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-21-2017, 03:03 PM
#10
1/16" wall sounds a bit thin, no? Probably better off with 1/8".
My only issue with those concentric reducers as Harry mentioned is that they appear quite long, which could be a negative for those with space constraints. If they were shorter I'd go for them.
Looks good! I'd definitely be up for buying a set.
1/16" wall sounds a bit thin, no? Probably better off with 1/8".
My only issue with those concentric reducers as Harry mentioned is that they appear quite long, which could be a negative for those with space constraints. If they were shorter I'd go for them.
04-25-2017, 12:12 PM
#11
1.5" will follow(or explode) soon....
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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04-25-2017, 12:12 PM #11Smushed up a 2" sched40 pipe the other day(It still needs finishing, but this is the general idea)
1.5" will follow(or explode) soon....
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-26-2017, 03:19 PM
#12
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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04-26-2017, 03:19 PM #12So yeah, 1.5" schedule 40 wasn't too happy:
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-27-2017, 07:33 AM
#13
(04-19-2017, 10:05 AM)Simpler=Better Where the heck are you getting those? Stateside I've only been able to find cast reducers.
Lol they are 'weld-els', more formally weld elbows, very easy to find in USA very hard to find in UK...
They are cast steel so they bent well.
I used 2.25" x 1.5" concentric reducers and they are perfect, just trimmed them down a bit because full size they stick out from the manifold flange about 4" and we have steering box on RHD. I would suggest you try the same,
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
(04-19-2017, 10:05 AM)Simpler=Better Where the heck are you getting those? Stateside I've only been able to find cast reducers.
Lol they are 'weld-els', more formally weld elbows, very easy to find in USA very hard to find in UK...
They are cast steel so they bent well.
I used 2.25" x 1.5" concentric reducers and they are perfect, just trimmed them down a bit because full size they stick out from the manifold flange about 4" and we have steering box on RHD. I would suggest you try the same,
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
04-27-2017, 10:36 AM
#14
(04-27-2017, 07:33 AM)Hario\Finally found a local source, they're like $$ though.(04-19-2017, 10:05 AM)Simpler=Better Where the heck are you getting those? Stateside I've only been able to find cast reducers.
Lol they are 'weld-els', more formally weld elbows, very easy to find in USA very hard to find in UK...
They are cast steel so they bent well.
I used 2.25" x 1.5" concentric reducers and they are perfect, just trimmed them down a bit because full size they stick out from the manifold flange about 4" and we have steering box on RHD. I would suggest you try the same,
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-27-2017, 10:36 AM #14(04-27-2017, 07:33 AM)Hario\Finally found a local source, they're like $$ though.(04-19-2017, 10:05 AM)Simpler=Better Where the heck are you getting those? Stateside I've only been able to find cast reducers.
Lol they are 'weld-els', more formally weld elbows, very easy to find in USA very hard to find in UK...
They are cast steel so they bent well.
I used 2.25" x 1.5" concentric reducers and they are perfect, just trimmed them down a bit because full size they stick out from the manifold flange about 4" and we have steering box on RHD. I would suggest you try the same,
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-01-2017, 07:59 PM
#15
87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
Ace stainless has the concentrics that I used. I have a bunch of extra flanges if anyone wants them. I have stainless and mild steel.
87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
05-02-2017, 11:17 AM
#16
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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05-02-2017, 11:17 AM #16I found local reducers, but the damn things are like $20/pop. Pressed really nicely though:
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-17-2017, 01:43 PM
#17
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This post was last modified: 05-17-2017, 01:49 PM by Simpler=Better.
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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05-17-2017, 01:43 PM #17Awwwww yeahhhhhh
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-17-2017, 09:47 PM
#19
(05-17-2017, 05:26 PM)TIMNZ Looking good, regarding the conc reducer size I presume you mean 2.5" x 1.5" or for those of us that use Metric 65 x 40 .
Cheers
Tim
Nope, 2.0" x 1.5" aka 51mm x 38mm. The die stretches them out all right, I want to say somewhere around 1/5 to 1/4 load on the gauge (It's marked as a 50 ton press, so I assume around 10tons of pressure?
That set's headed to a customer in FL, once I get some free time (haha) I'll be making another two sets.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
05-17-2017, 09:47 PM #19(05-17-2017, 05:26 PM)TIMNZ Looking good, regarding the conc reducer size I presume you mean 2.5" x 1.5" or for those of us that use Metric 65 x 40 .
Cheers
Tim
Nope, 2.0" x 1.5" aka 51mm x 38mm. The die stretches them out all right, I want to say somewhere around 1/5 to 1/4 load on the gauge (It's marked as a 50 ton press, so I assume around 10tons of pressure?
That set's headed to a customer in FL, once I get some free time (haha) I'll be making another two sets.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-18-2017, 08:22 AM
#20
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
05-18-2017, 08:22 AM #20
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-24-2017, 01:54 PM
#23
Curious what would it take for a set of 6 like so?
78 300D, 87 190D, 94 E320, 95 E300D
Bigpanda16
05-24-2017, 01:54 PM #23Nice looking work for sure, far quicker than cutting/welding 3 deep well 1/2" sockets together and shop pressing them into shape.
Curious what would it take for a set of 6 like so?
78 300D, 87 190D, 94 E320, 95 E300D
05-30-2017, 02:31 PM
#24
That being said, I'm completely overwhelmed at the moment (main car & backup car are both down for the count)
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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05-30-2017, 02:31 PM #24I'm thinking that $30/pop ($180/set) for fully machined ready-to-weld covers my time.
That being said, I'm completely overwhelmed at the moment (main car & backup car are both down for the count)
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-12-2018, 06:05 AM
#25
The 1.5" ID pipe that I have looks massive and wondered if it would affect the pressure. I know it would help top end flow but it would bugger the low rev spool up.
This post was last modified: 04-12-2018, 06:05 AM by Mallinman.
Mitsubishi L200 manual om605
7.5mm Bosch 044 fed pump
Borgwarner S200
When you guys are using 1.5" pipe for you manifold tubes do you mean 1.5" ID or OD??
The 1.5" ID pipe that I have looks massive and wondered if it would affect the pressure. I know it would help top end flow but it would bugger the low rev spool up.
Mitsubishi L200 manual om605
7.5mm Bosch 044 fed pump
Borgwarner S200
04-12-2018, 06:14 AM
#26
(04-12-2018, 06:05 AM)Mallinman When you guys are using 1.5" pipe for you manifold tubes do you mean 1.5" ID or OD??
The 1.5" ID pipe that I have looks massive and wondered if it would affect the pressure. I know it would help top end flow but it would bugger the low rev spool up.
He likely means 1.5" schedule 10 or 40, which is much bigger than 1.5" in inside diameter because it's a 200 year old standard
https://www.metals4uonline.com/PipeSched...ifications
Baldur Gislason
(04-12-2018, 06:05 AM)Mallinman When you guys are using 1.5" pipe for you manifold tubes do you mean 1.5" ID or OD??
The 1.5" ID pipe that I have looks massive and wondered if it would affect the pressure. I know it would help top end flow but it would bugger the low rev spool up.
He likely means 1.5" schedule 10 or 40, which is much bigger than 1.5" in inside diameter because it's a 200 year old standard
https://www.metals4uonline.com/PipeSched...ifications
Baldur Gislason
04-12-2018, 08:22 AM
#27
Mitsubishi L200 manual om605
7.5mm Bosch 044 fed pump
Borgwarner S200
Right I see what you mean thank you. I’ve gone for 36mm ID pipe. I think it will be best suited and the other 42mm ID pipe I have is goanna be too big. The collecter would be a nightmare getting it to fit on the T3
Mitsubishi L200 manual om605
7.5mm Bosch 044 fed pump
Borgwarner S200
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