320x30mm brakes on w201
320x30mm brakes on w201
12-16-2017, 05:04 PM
#1
I have r129 spindels but there is no threads on the calipers. CC on 500e calipers to mount on spindle is 100mm and on standard w124 brakes it is 110mm.
Im confused. ?
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
Bought a set off front brake calipers with partnr 0014200083 and 0014200183. They are from w124 500e/r129 600SL.
I have r129 spindels but there is no threads on the calipers. CC on 500e calipers to mount on spindle is 100mm and on standard w124 brakes it is 110mm.
Im confused. ?
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-17-2017, 12:20 PM
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85 300D om617: 8mm M pump 175cc 5200rpm, holset he221w @ 30psi, large A2W ic, compounds on the way.
those look just like a set of calipers i pulled off of a 1995 s600. the spindles on that car were threaded and im not sure it used the same front suspension set up as a 129.
85 300D om617: 8mm M pump 175cc 5200rpm, holset he221w @ 30psi, large A2W ic, compounds on the way.
12-18-2017, 03:58 AM
#3
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
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I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
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12-19-2017, 03:10 AM
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(12-17-2017, 12:20 PM)R-3350 those look just like a set of calipers i pulled off of a 1995 s600. the spindles on that car were threaded and im not sure it used the same front suspension set up as a 129.
Strange is that this part# for these calipers is the same as w124 500E.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(12-17-2017, 12:20 PM)R-3350 those look just like a set of calipers i pulled off of a 1995 s600. the spindles on that car were threaded and im not sure it used the same front suspension set up as a 129.
Strange is that this part# for these calipers is the same as w124 500E.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-19-2017, 06:40 AM
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I have same caliper here from W140. Bolt CC is 100mm.
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W201/124 has 110mm like you mentioned before.
This post was last modified: 12-19-2017, 06:41 AM by hents99.
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Seems to be from W140?
I have same caliper here from W140. Bolt CC is 100mm.
W201/124 has 110mm like you mentioned before.
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12-19-2017, 09:56 AM
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(12-18-2017, 03:58 AM)hents99 I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(12-18-2017, 03:58 AM)hents99 I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-19-2017, 10:10 AM
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-21-2017, 03:18 PM
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(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter(12-18-2017, 03:58 AM)hents99 I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
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(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter(12-18-2017, 03:58 AM)hents99 I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
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12-22-2017, 01:34 AM
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(12-21-2017, 03:18 PM)hents99(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter(12-18-2017, 03:58 AM)hents99 I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
It would be awsome.
evopeter@hotmail.se
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(12-21-2017, 03:18 PM)hents99(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter(12-18-2017, 03:58 AM)hents99 I don`t have experience with iron calipers but I have installed W220 front calipers (also for 320x30mm rotor) to different models like W201/W124/W463.
Fits with adapter.
ML(from 2002 models) front calipers are basically same as W220 but for bigger rotor 345x32mm. 17" is minimum wheel diameter.
Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
It would be awsome.
evopeter@hotmail.se
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-27-2017, 10:44 AM
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(12-21-2017, 03:18 PM)hents99(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
I can only find that W220 had 312mm or 330mm discs. Was looking at scrapyard and saw that i can get a pair of brembos aluminium from W220 for around 200Euro.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(12-21-2017, 03:18 PM)hents99(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
I can only find that W220 had 312mm or 330mm discs. Was looking at scrapyard and saw that i can get a pair of brembos aluminium from W220 for around 200Euro.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-28-2017, 07:27 AM
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(12-27-2017, 10:44 AM)EvoPeter(12-21-2017, 03:18 PM)hents99(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
I can only find that W220 had 312mm or 330mm discs. Was looking at scrapyard and saw that i can get a pair of brembos aluminium from W220 for around 200Euro.
Maybe some private seller could offer you better price.
We use to pay up to 100 euros for pair of W220 calipers.
Maybe was 330mm discs. Last time I installed W220 calipers to W463 rear axle....Cheapest conversion ever :
You can use C32/C55 W203 front rotors as well. 345x30mm (ML has 345x32mm like mine but I made aluminum center parts). Minimum 17" wheels required.
This post was last modified: 12-28-2017, 07:28 AM by hents99.
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(12-27-2017, 10:44 AM)EvoPeter(12-21-2017, 03:18 PM)hents99(12-19-2017, 09:56 AM)EvoPeter Ok. Will look into making an adapter.
I can send you adapter drawing if you like.
I can only find that W220 had 312mm or 330mm discs. Was looking at scrapyard and saw that i can get a pair of brembos aluminium from W220 for around 200Euro.
Maybe some private seller could offer you better price.
We use to pay up to 100 euros for pair of W220 calipers.
Maybe was 330mm discs. Last time I installed W220 calipers to W463 rear axle....Cheapest conversion ever :
You can use C32/C55 W203 front rotors as well. 345x30mm (ML has 345x32mm like mine but I made aluminum center parts). Minimum 17" wheels required.
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12-29-2017, 07:58 AM
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(12-28-2017, 07:27 AM)hents99 Maybe some private seller could offer you better price.
We use to pay up to 100 euros for pair of W220 calipers.
Maybe was 330mm discs. Last time I installed W220 calipers to W463 rear axle....Cheapest conversion ever :
You can use C32/C55 W203 front rotors as well. 345x30mm (ML has 345x32mm like mine but I made aluminum center parts). Minimum 17" wheels required.
Well, found a pair of C32/C55 w203 AMG calipers for 345mm rotors for 100Euro on the scrapyard so i send back the other iron calipers for the 320mm rotors.
Now i have a set of 320x30mm rotors i dont need.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
(12-28-2017, 07:27 AM)hents99 Maybe some private seller could offer you better price.
We use to pay up to 100 euros for pair of W220 calipers.
Maybe was 330mm discs. Last time I installed W220 calipers to W463 rear axle....Cheapest conversion ever :
You can use C32/C55 W203 front rotors as well. 345x30mm (ML has 345x32mm like mine but I made aluminum center parts). Minimum 17" wheels required.
Well, found a pair of C32/C55 w203 AMG calipers for 345mm rotors for 100Euro on the scrapyard so i send back the other iron calipers for the 320mm rotors.
Now i have a set of 320x30mm rotors i dont need.
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Mercedes 190 -92, om605 Stroker 2.75L, Dieselmeken 7,5mm (160cc) EDC with Baldur DSL1 ECU, Garrett GTX3576R A/R 1.06 without WG, SMF, 716.661 (SG-S370/6) Gearbox
12-31-2017, 04:23 AM
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(12-29-2017, 07:58 AM)EvoPeter(12-28-2017, 07:27 AM)hents99 Maybe some private seller could offer you better price.
We use to pay up to 100 euros for pair of W220 calipers.
Maybe was 330mm discs. Last time I installed W220 calipers to W463 rear axle....Cheapest conversion ever :
You can use C32/C55 W203 front rotors as well. 345x30mm (ML has 345x32mm like mine but I made aluminum center parts). Minimum 17" wheels required.
Well, found a pair of C32/C55 w203 AMG calipers for 345mm rotors for 100Euro on the scrapyard so i send back the other iron calipers for the 320mm rotors.
Now i have a set of 320x30mm rotors i dont need.
Good. W203 calipers are basically bolt on with c32/55 rotors.
Just need to use some shims for correct offset.
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(12-29-2017, 07:58 AM)EvoPeter(12-28-2017, 07:27 AM)hents99 Maybe some private seller could offer you better price.
We use to pay up to 100 euros for pair of W220 calipers.
Maybe was 330mm discs. Last time I installed W220 calipers to W463 rear axle....Cheapest conversion ever :
You can use C32/C55 W203 front rotors as well. 345x30mm (ML has 345x32mm like mine but I made aluminum center parts). Minimum 17" wheels required.
Well, found a pair of C32/C55 w203 AMG calipers for 345mm rotors for 100Euro on the scrapyard so i send back the other iron calipers for the 320mm rotors.
Now i have a set of 320x30mm rotors i dont need.
Good. W203 calipers are basically bolt on with c32/55 rotors.
Just need to use some shims for correct offset.
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01-09-2018, 11:26 AM
#15
They don't poke out much from under the arches either at j7.5".
I have a set of iron W140 4 pots and they are MASSIVE and just don't fit my car/any of my wheels.
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
maxypriest
01-09-2018, 11:26 AM #15W124 - I'm using R129 iron 4 pots with W210 16" alloys (A210 401 06 02) and they JUST fit (1MM of clearance).
They don't poke out much from under the arches either at j7.5".
I have a set of iron W140 4 pots and they are MASSIVE and just don't fit my car/any of my wheels.
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
10-29-2018, 07:56 PM
#16
(01-05-2018, 05:21 AM)Mr_Robs Are there any calipers worth upgrading to on the 124 that will still fit under 16in wheels?
I have some used 400e calipers but if theres something larger but does not require 17 inch wheels id rather upgrade before rebuilding these 400e ones.
If you have twin piston fronts with vented rotors you are doing OK. The later wagons had something like 294mm rotors with cast iron four pot fronts. Rear rotors were also vented.
Early 500e was 300mm. The catch is that the front calipers were Brembo, and aluminum, i.e. several pounds lighter than the cast iron equivalent.
Later 500e had the 320mm, but back to cast ATE 4-pots. They have a bit more fade resistance obviously, but are much heavier than the aluminum Brembos. I am not sure they will fit the 16". I believe 300mm is the largest you can go with 16". Check the 500eboard.
atypicalguy
10-29-2018, 07:56 PM #16(01-05-2018, 05:21 AM)Mr_Robs Are there any calipers worth upgrading to on the 124 that will still fit under 16in wheels?
I have some used 400e calipers but if theres something larger but does not require 17 inch wheels id rather upgrade before rebuilding these 400e ones.
If you have twin piston fronts with vented rotors you are doing OK. The later wagons had something like 294mm rotors with cast iron four pot fronts. Rear rotors were also vented.
Early 500e was 300mm. The catch is that the front calipers were Brembo, and aluminum, i.e. several pounds lighter than the cast iron equivalent.
Later 500e had the 320mm, but back to cast ATE 4-pots. They have a bit more fade resistance obviously, but are much heavier than the aluminum Brembos. I am not sure they will fit the 16". I believe 300mm is the largest you can go with 16". Check the 500eboard.
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