Hating on WVO, BioD, or any thing other than diesel?
Hating on WVO, BioD, or any thing other than diesel?
Why do people on this forum hate on people who are using WVO or Biodiesel? I have done quite a bit of research and Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, intended this type of engine to be ran on vegi oil or basically a renewable resource to act as an option to help brake our reliance on gas/ oil which is an unrenewable resource and is a lot less effiecent and just nasty and dirty in nature.
I am asking because i want to get a mercedes diesel to do this very thing, plus i think mercedes is at the top of luxury even the old school ones. I think you guys should be a little more open minded and help with solution not part of the problem. If someone buys a car and chooses to put something other than what you would into its gas tank than ok dont respond to that thread, just move on and read something else. They bought that car with there hard earned money and you tell them to buy a VW and destroy it with that crap doesnt help anyone, just causes problems.
on that note anyone who has experience in this i would enjoy some advice as to car, motor and resource that would help me out in my journey to a diesel that never goes to the gas station.
Thanks for your time
No disrespect was meant by this just saying.
Hello Rebel, welcome to the forum.
The general purpose of this forum is the performance enhancing modification of Mercedes Diesels. Using cooking oils does not “performance enhance” these diesels. They have other benefits, but increasing performance is not one of their attributes.
In response to the statement you made about other other forum members opinions on the subject and the way they will host a discussion about it, you are not in a position to tell others how to conduct themselves on this site. You are a bit of a hypocrite when you make a statement like you already did.
(02-19-2012, 12:53 AM)w123love Hello Rebel, welcome to the forum.
The general purpose of this forum is the performance enhancing modification of Mercedes Diesels. Using cooking oils does not “performance enhance” these diesels. They have other benefits, but increasing performance is not one of their attributes.
In response to the statement you made about other other forum members opinions on the subject and the way they will host a discussion about it, you are not in a position to tell others how to conduct themselves on this site. You are a bit of a hypocrite when you make a statement like you already did.
(02-19-2012, 12:53 AM)w123love Hello Rebel, welcome to the forum.
The general purpose of this forum is the performance enhancing modification of Mercedes Diesels. Using cooking oils does not “performance enhance” these diesels. They have other benefits, but increasing performance is not one of their attributes.
In response to the statement you made about other other forum members opinions on the subject and the way they will host a discussion about it, you are not in a position to tell others how to conduct themselves on this site. You are a bit of a hypocrite when you make a statement like you already did.
This is a great forum and my personal favorite. The debate is really well settled. Burning WVO will cause "junk" to be deposited. Period. It is just a matter of chemistry. HOWEVER, if properly purified and burned (heating to 160F or higher), then burning WVO is a viable solution to purchasing #2 diesel fuel. I ran it for almost 4 years and no problems. Did it cause some sort of premature engine damage ? I have no idea. I never noticed any. However, I will assume that it did for those who contend such a position. As such, I am very comfortable with some sort of premature engine damage in exchange for almost 4 years of buring WVO. Assuming I get my engine back at the auction, then I will resume burning WVO in that engine so that I will have more data and a longer period on grease. I think the real issue is the assumption of risk, the trade-offs, and whether or not burning grease is economically feasible. So far, from my personal experience, it clearly is. So, having said that, I generally agree with W123love in that Forced opinions are not the best. And, as noted above, welcome to the forum.
(02-19-2012, 09:49 AM)Greazzer This is a great forum and my personal favorite. The debate is really well settled. Burning WVO will cause "junk" to be deposited. Period. It is just a matter of chemistry. HOWEVER, if properly purified and burned (heating to 160F or higher), then burning WVO is a viable solution to purchasing #2 diesel fuel. I ran it for almost 4 years and no problems. Did it cause some sort of premature engine damage ? I have no idea. I never noticed any. However, I will assume that it did for those who contend such a position. As such, I am very comfortable with some sort of premature engine damage in exchange for almost 4 years of buring WVO. Assuming I get my engine back at the auction, then I will resume burning WVO in that engine so that I will have more data and a longer period on grease. I think the real issue is the assumption of risk, the trade-offs, and whether or not burning grease is economically feasible. So far, from my personal experience, it clearly is. So, having said that, I generally agree with W123love in that Forced opinions are not the best. And, as noted above, welcome to the forum.
(02-19-2012, 09:49 AM)Greazzer This is a great forum and my personal favorite. The debate is really well settled. Burning WVO will cause "junk" to be deposited. Period. It is just a matter of chemistry. HOWEVER, if properly purified and burned (heating to 160F or higher), then burning WVO is a viable solution to purchasing #2 diesel fuel. I ran it for almost 4 years and no problems. Did it cause some sort of premature engine damage ? I have no idea. I never noticed any. However, I will assume that it did for those who contend such a position. As such, I am very comfortable with some sort of premature engine damage in exchange for almost 4 years of buring WVO. Assuming I get my engine back at the auction, then I will resume burning WVO in that engine so that I will have more data and a longer period on grease. I think the real issue is the assumption of risk, the trade-offs, and whether or not burning grease is economically feasible. So far, from my personal experience, it clearly is. So, having said that, I generally agree with W123love in that Forced opinions are not the best. And, as noted above, welcome to the forum.
My current batch of oil I think was especially bad or something, it clogged up my filter (~10 micron paper filter) after pumping about 10-12 gallons. However it probably has about 150+ gallons through it already, so I guess that could be the culprit as well
(02-20-2012, 01:06 AM)sassparilla_kid My current batch of oil I think was especially bad or something, it clogged up my filter (~10 micron paper filter) after pumping about 10-12 gallons. However it probably has about 150+ gallons through it already, so I guess that could be the culprit as well
(02-20-2012, 01:06 AM)sassparilla_kid My current batch of oil I think was especially bad or something, it clogged up my filter (~10 micron paper filter) after pumping about 10-12 gallons. However it probably has about 150+ gallons through it already, so I guess that could be the culprit as well
(02-20-2012, 07:40 AM)Greazzer(02-20-2012, 01:06 AM)sassparilla_kid My current batch of oil I think was especially bad or something, it clogged up my filter (~10 micron paper filter) after pumping about 10-12 gallons. However it probably has about 150+ gallons through it already, so I guess that could be the culprit as well
How do you clean your grease ? You should be able to go 6-12 months on the OEM type of filter (or longer ?) Do you centrifuge it? I noticed that once you clean it, but then dump in about 5-10 gallons of water (make sure the grease cooled down) and blend that, then siphon off the water, the grease will look at least 50% lighter. Not sure why. I still heat it again to 180F and run that again thru the centrifuge. Never a problem.
(02-20-2012, 07:40 AM)Greazzer(02-20-2012, 01:06 AM)sassparilla_kid My current batch of oil I think was especially bad or something, it clogged up my filter (~10 micron paper filter) after pumping about 10-12 gallons. However it probably has about 150+ gallons through it already, so I guess that could be the culprit as well
How do you clean your grease ? You should be able to go 6-12 months on the OEM type of filter (or longer ?) Do you centrifuge it? I noticed that once you clean it, but then dump in about 5-10 gallons of water (make sure the grease cooled down) and blend that, then siphon off the water, the grease will look at least 50% lighter. Not sure why. I still heat it again to 180F and run that again thru the centrifuge. Never a problem.
Greazzer dateline=‘1329741622’' I noticed that once you clean it, but then dump in about 5-10 gallons of water (make sure the grease cooled down) and blend that, then siphon off the water, the grease will look at least 50% lighter. Not sure why. I still heat it again to 180F and run that again thru the centrifuge. Never a problem.
Greazzer dateline=‘1329741622’' I noticed that once you clean it, but then dump in about 5-10 gallons of water (make sure the grease cooled down) and blend that, then siphon off the water, the grease will look at least 50% lighter. Not sure why. I still heat it again to 180F and run that again thru the centrifuge. Never a problem.
When we get our oil it doesn't have any water in it so my friend and I both filter it cold. He uses a 5 micron cloth sock filter and has an electric pump running all the time, but since my setup is outside I have a manual pump and pump it through paper filters in-line. I don't really like this setup too much so I'm starting to think I should start looking at other ways I can do it, and add more filters haha
(02-20-2012, 03:00 PM)w123loveGreazzer dateline=‘1329741622’' I noticed that once you clean it, but then dump in about 5-10 gallons of water (make sure the grease cooled down) and blend that, then siphon off the water, the grease will look at least 50% lighter. Not sure why. I still heat it again to 180F and run that again thru the centrifuge. Never a problem.
You add WATER to it after you clean it??? I have never heard of this move. It seems like death to the whole process. My main goal is to eliminate all the water. I understand you siphon it off again but what the heck??
I have a cold upflow tank for settling then a centrifuge to do most of the work. Then a Racor marine centrifuging water separator/filter to do the final polishing job.
(02-20-2012, 03:00 PM)w123loveGreazzer dateline=‘1329741622’' I noticed that once you clean it, but then dump in about 5-10 gallons of water (make sure the grease cooled down) and blend that, then siphon off the water, the grease will look at least 50% lighter. Not sure why. I still heat it again to 180F and run that again thru the centrifuge. Never a problem.
You add WATER to it after you clean it??? I have never heard of this move. It seems like death to the whole process. My main goal is to eliminate all the water. I understand you siphon it off again but what the heck??
I have a cold upflow tank for settling then a centrifuge to do most of the work. Then a Racor marine centrifuging water separator/filter to do the final polishing job.
Crazyiness but I am feeling enlightened. I am kicking myself for passing up on a opportunity to buy a clear cone settling tank locally.
Ditto, my PA biodiesel set up was about the same with the 1/2 horse AC motor. Definitely worth it though, I set up mine with a timer so I can leave the house with it on. 30 minutes later it will shut off on its own.
You can buy the steel cones from Turner out of Wisconsin. I bought 2 and I think they cost under $100 for both. Welding time was about 60 minutes and you have a total steel system: 55 gallon drum steel with steel cone. I got some pictures on the forum of my set up. Yup -- PABiodieselSupply from Pennsylvania. Paid for itself after about 125 or so gallons. Right now diesel is hitting $4 a gallon. BTW -- why no snappies or posts on your 4 speed ?
If you look on my car’s page, you can see them. I only have photos of the stuff before the trans went in. Don’t worry i’ll get them in.
W123love's TDT
On Wednesday I will post more. I need to pull it again to do some aligning. I messed up on my first install of it. More info on that page.
I did ... just being impatient. My bad ...
If I hadn't run my C250 TD on WVO for the last 5 years, I wouldn't have had any spare money to 1. obtain another C250 TD for a project car, or 2. been able to afford the £500 or so in parts I needed to do the stage 2 upgrades to it. So for me it has and continues to indirectly enhance the performance of my car by enhancing the performance of my wallet lol.