STD Tuning Brakes S210 -> W203 brake upgrade or?

S210 -> W203 brake upgrade or?

S210 -> W203 brake upgrade or?

 
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blackslide
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07-15-2012, 03:45 AM #1
Hello fellow dieselheads!

I'm overhauling my '00 S210 320CDI in almost every aspect in the coming winter, and was wondering what would be the best brake kit on a budget.

I'm not rich so a full Brembo, D2, etc. kit is out of the question.

I was wondering if I install braided brake lines, rebuild a set of used C32 or E55 AMG calipers, install rotors and pads for the AMG calipers:
-Do the calipers bolt on to the stock avantgarde/sport S210?
-Do the rotors bolt on to the stock S210 bearing flange?
-What brand of cross-drilled rotors would you recommend on a budget?
-Are EBC Redstuffs the best budget pads for street use?
-Is there a better option to the AMG calipers at about the same pricetag?

I'd quote bmartins in his post "w210 300td discs upgrade"
(04-03-2011, 01:33 PM)bmartins w210 300td discs upgrade
Hello.
I own a W210 300TD from 1997 with 300mm rotors.
I was wondering upgrading my rotors and calipers to 330mm from a S320 cdi or 400cdi or 500(W220).
I am almost sure that the calipers fit my car, but the rotors i don´t think so...
Can you tell me which is the best part that i can install there?
330mm from a W220 or 345mm from a C32AMG(W203)?
Does 345mm fit 17"?
Thanks

345mm fits most 17" rims but the rest is unclear... to me also.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers!

edit: fixed broken quote
edit: fixed broken link
edit: E55 / C32?

Just fyi:
Someone in finland swapped these into their E55 AMG with success (and on a budget)...
Zimmermann W203 C270cdi/ C32AMG(01-06) cross-drilled sport rotor (?mm/28mm) ~200€/2pcs (original AMG E55 spec is 345mm/32mm)
TRW DF4355 rear rotors (300mm/22mm) ~90€/2pcs (original AMG E55 spec is ?)
This post was last modified: 07-15-2012, 04:40 AM by blackslide.
blackslide
07-15-2012, 03:45 AM #1

Hello fellow dieselheads!

I'm overhauling my '00 S210 320CDI in almost every aspect in the coming winter, and was wondering what would be the best brake kit on a budget.

I'm not rich so a full Brembo, D2, etc. kit is out of the question.

I was wondering if I install braided brake lines, rebuild a set of used C32 or E55 AMG calipers, install rotors and pads for the AMG calipers:
-Do the calipers bolt on to the stock avantgarde/sport S210?
-Do the rotors bolt on to the stock S210 bearing flange?
-What brand of cross-drilled rotors would you recommend on a budget?
-Are EBC Redstuffs the best budget pads for street use?
-Is there a better option to the AMG calipers at about the same pricetag?

I'd quote bmartins in his post "w210 300td discs upgrade"

(04-03-2011, 01:33 PM)bmartins w210 300td discs upgrade
Hello.
I own a W210 300TD from 1997 with 300mm rotors.
I was wondering upgrading my rotors and calipers to 330mm from a S320 cdi or 400cdi or 500(W220).
I am almost sure that the calipers fit my car, but the rotors i don´t think so...
Can you tell me which is the best part that i can install there?
330mm from a W220 or 345mm from a C32AMG(W203)?
Does 345mm fit 17"?
Thanks

345mm fits most 17" rims but the rest is unclear... to me also.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers!

edit: fixed broken quote
edit: fixed broken link
edit: E55 / C32?

Just fyi:
Someone in finland swapped these into their E55 AMG with success (and on a budget)...
Zimmermann W203 C270cdi/ C32AMG(01-06) cross-drilled sport rotor (?mm/28mm) ~200€/2pcs (original AMG E55 spec is 345mm/32mm)
TRW DF4355 rear rotors (300mm/22mm) ~90€/2pcs (original AMG E55 spec is ?)

blackslide
Naturally-aspirated

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07-15-2012, 03:41 PM #2
Using some non-reliable sources, I have gathered this info on the front-end:
Steering knuckle (where the calipers bolt onto) is the same on pre-facelift E300 TD, all E320, facelift E320 CDI
-A 210 330 00 20 LEFT
-A 210 330 01 20 RIGHT

W210 E55 AMG might have the same or different parts but I have no way to confirm this at the moment

All W203 incl. AMG share a different steering knuckle (different from W210)
-A 204 332 01 01 LEFT
-A 204 332 02 01 RIGHT


All W210 and W203 incl. AMG have the same front wheel hub and bearings
-A 210 330 03 25 L/R (HUB)
-A 210 330 00 51 L/R (BEARING)

The different calipers:
W210 E300 TD and 320 CDI
-A 001 420 31 83 LEFT (Housing)
-A 001 420 32 83 RIGHT (housing)

W210 E320 caliper
-A 001 420 31 83 LEFT (Housing)
-A 001 420 32 83 RIGHT (Housing)
-A 001 420 33 83 LEFT (Caliper -if AMG-engineering package)
-A 001 420 34 83 RIGHT(Caliper -if AMG-engineering package)

W210 E55 caliper
-H WA 210 421 01 98 LEFT (was H WA 210 420 01 83)
-H WA 210 421 02 98 RIGHT (was H WA 210 420 02 83)

W203 AMG (both C32 and C55) caliper
-A 002 420 19 83 LEFT (p/n looks awfully close to the old E55 one)
-A 002 420 20 83 RIGHT (p/n looks awfully close to the old E55 one)


-How good or bad is the E320 AMG caliper, compared to the E55 and C32/C55 AMG calipers?
-Does E55 use the same or different steering knuckle?
-Apparently S220 series cars use the same calipers as C32/55 AMG, calipers are just painted black?
-Are there pictures of the calipers with measurements/Has someone measured the bolt distance and diameter?
-The rear is still to be checked but with this much confusion and missing info on the front, I'll try and have time to re-check the info at the dealer

edit: This info is specific to EURO models. Might apply to others but I can't guarantee that.
edit: C32 AMG / S55 AMG same caliper but C uses silver color, S uses black?
This post was last modified: 07-15-2012, 04:25 PM by blackslide.
blackslide
07-15-2012, 03:41 PM #2

Using some non-reliable sources, I have gathered this info on the front-end:
Steering knuckle (where the calipers bolt onto) is the same on pre-facelift E300 TD, all E320, facelift E320 CDI
-A 210 330 00 20 LEFT
-A 210 330 01 20 RIGHT

W210 E55 AMG might have the same or different parts but I have no way to confirm this at the moment

All W203 incl. AMG share a different steering knuckle (different from W210)
-A 204 332 01 01 LEFT
-A 204 332 02 01 RIGHT


All W210 and W203 incl. AMG have the same front wheel hub and bearings
-A 210 330 03 25 L/R (HUB)
-A 210 330 00 51 L/R (BEARING)

The different calipers:
W210 E300 TD and 320 CDI
-A 001 420 31 83 LEFT (Housing)
-A 001 420 32 83 RIGHT (housing)

W210 E320 caliper
-A 001 420 31 83 LEFT (Housing)
-A 001 420 32 83 RIGHT (Housing)
-A 001 420 33 83 LEFT (Caliper -if AMG-engineering package)
-A 001 420 34 83 RIGHT(Caliper -if AMG-engineering package)

W210 E55 caliper
-H WA 210 421 01 98 LEFT (was H WA 210 420 01 83)
-H WA 210 421 02 98 RIGHT (was H WA 210 420 02 83)

W203 AMG (both C32 and C55) caliper
-A 002 420 19 83 LEFT (p/n looks awfully close to the old E55 one)
-A 002 420 20 83 RIGHT (p/n looks awfully close to the old E55 one)


-How good or bad is the E320 AMG caliper, compared to the E55 and C32/C55 AMG calipers?
-Does E55 use the same or different steering knuckle?
-Apparently S220 series cars use the same calipers as C32/55 AMG, calipers are just painted black?
-Are there pictures of the calipers with measurements/Has someone measured the bolt distance and diameter?
-The rear is still to be checked but with this much confusion and missing info on the front, I'll try and have time to re-check the info at the dealer

edit: This info is specific to EURO models. Might apply to others but I can't guarantee that.
edit: C32 AMG / S55 AMG same caliper but C uses silver color, S uses black?

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
08-12-2014, 03:03 PM #3
FYI, the E55 calipers aren't 4-pot unfortunately




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
08-12-2014, 03:03 PM #3

FYI, the E55 calipers aren't 4-pot unfortunately





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

 
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