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Jtn190D
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06-09-2009, 07:03 PM #1
Hi all im new here. I have 87 190D 2.5 turbo i wanted to now if i can change my stock air cleaner to a hi flow one.[/size]
Jtn190D
06-09-2009, 07:03 PM #1

Hi all im new here. I have 87 190D 2.5 turbo i wanted to now if i can change my stock air cleaner to a hi flow one.[/size]

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-10-2009, 07:51 AM #2
You already got the best air filter box in there already. You just need to tune other items to get more performance out of your engine.

630CFM is damn good for a stock box. Anything else (i.e. K&N Filter) would actually restrict flow.


From the WIX Filter Website.
Part Number: 42228
UPC Number: 765809422285
Principal Application: Mercedes 190D Turbo (87), 350SD, 350SDL Turbo (90-91), 300 Series (86-87)
All Applications
Style: Air Filter
Service: Air
Height: 5.135
Outer Diameter Top: 11.135
Outer Diameter Bottom: 7.700
Inner Diameter Top: 6.995
Inner Diameter Bottom: 3.560
Ends: Plastic
Oval Shape: Yes
CFM: 630

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DeliveryValve
06-10-2009, 07:51 AM #2

You already got the best air filter box in there already. You just need to tune other items to get more performance out of your engine.

630CFM is damn good for a stock box. Anything else (i.e. K&N Filter) would actually restrict flow.


From the WIX Filter Website.
Part Number: 42228
UPC Number: 765809422285
Principal Application: Mercedes 190D Turbo (87), 350SD, 350SDL Turbo (90-91), 300 Series (86-87)
All Applications
Style: Air Filter
Service: Air
Height: 5.135
Outer Diameter Top: 11.135
Outer Diameter Bottom: 7.700
Inner Diameter Top: 6.995
Inner Diameter Bottom: 3.560
Ends: Plastic
Oval Shape: Yes
CFM: 630


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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SurfRodder
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06-10-2009, 09:27 AM #3
I'd be willing to bet the K&N will outflow the stocker, probably by at least 100cfm, but it wont provide any more *usuable* flow for an engine that is not fairly-well modified... They also do not filter as well as the stock unit, a lot of offroaders don't use 'em anymore after finding silt in their intakes.
The only real advantage with a k&n stock replacement is the reusable aspect of it, but I'd still rather go paper filter to ensure no dirt gets into my intake...

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
06-10-2009, 09:27 AM #3

I'd be willing to bet the K&N will outflow the stocker, probably by at least 100cfm, but it wont provide any more *usuable* flow for an engine that is not fairly-well modified... They also do not filter as well as the stock unit, a lot of offroaders don't use 'em anymore after finding silt in their intakes.
The only real advantage with a k&n stock replacement is the reusable aspect of it, but I'd still rather go paper filter to ensure no dirt gets into my intake...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-10-2009, 10:48 AM #4
(06-10-2009, 09:27 AM)SurfRodder I'd be willing to bet the K&N will outflow the stocker, probably by at least 100cfm, but it wont provide any more *usuable* flow for an engine that is not fairly-well modified... They also do not filter as well as the stock unit, a lot of offroaders don't use 'em anymore after finding silt in their intakes.
The only real advantage with a k&n stock replacement is the reusable aspect of it, but I'd still rather go paper filter to ensure no dirt gets into my intake...

I was referring to the common K&N cone type filter like the setup you find on eBay. If K&N made a filter specifically to this box, then yes it will probably flow better with the drawback of not filtering as well. .

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
06-10-2009, 10:48 AM #4

(06-10-2009, 09:27 AM)SurfRodder I'd be willing to bet the K&N will outflow the stocker, probably by at least 100cfm, but it wont provide any more *usuable* flow for an engine that is not fairly-well modified... They also do not filter as well as the stock unit, a lot of offroaders don't use 'em anymore after finding silt in their intakes.
The only real advantage with a k&n stock replacement is the reusable aspect of it, but I'd still rather go paper filter to ensure no dirt gets into my intake...

I was referring to the common K&N cone type filter like the setup you find on eBay. If K&N made a filter specifically to this box, then yes it will probably flow better with the drawback of not filtering as well. .


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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Jtn190D
MERCEDES DIESEL POWER!

192
06-10-2009, 11:11 AM #5
Is it normal not to hear the turbo at all?
Jtn190D
06-10-2009, 11:11 AM #5

Is it normal not to hear the turbo at all?

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
06-11-2009, 12:21 AM #6
(06-10-2009, 11:11 AM)Jtn190D Is it normal not to hear the turbo at all?

yeah, with the stock unit you wont hear much..especially with how loud the rest of the engine is...

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
06-11-2009, 12:21 AM #6

(06-10-2009, 11:11 AM)Jtn190D Is it normal not to hear the turbo at all?

yeah, with the stock unit you wont hear much..especially with how loud the rest of the engine is...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
06-11-2009, 05:20 AM #7
A K&N will flow more air at the expense of having a much shorter engine lifespan.

Look here to see what K&Ns suck so bad: http://duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm

The best filter is what you have already. Its flows more than your engine needs, it filters very well, its a true cold air intake, the filter is cheap and its extremely easy to maintain.
This post was last modified: 06-11-2009, 05:20 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
06-11-2009, 05:20 AM #7

A K&N will flow more air at the expense of having a much shorter engine lifespan.

Look here to see what K&Ns suck so bad: http://duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm

The best filter is what you have already. Its flows more than your engine needs, it filters very well, its a true cold air intake, the filter is cheap and its extremely easy to maintain.

 
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