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Best gearbox for om606, broke the 71740x getrag

Best gearbox for om606, broke the 71740x getrag

 
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swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
10-03-2013, 04:47 AM #1
Hey there, the 2.3 16 isch getrag gerbox failed me...

looking at the BMW gearboxes, ZF and getrag, i was told that the 525+530tdi gearboxes was durable, but also that the sixspeed was even stronger.

have found a sixspeed gearbox belonging to bmw m5 etc, an S6S 420g, getrag gearbox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag_420G_transmission

any input on durability on those? what is the best to choose from? its a tad more expensive than the fivespeeds, but 0.83 on sixth gear and perhaps better durability doesnt sound that bad.

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w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
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swampmonkey
10-03-2013, 04:47 AM #1

Hey there, the 2.3 16 isch getrag gerbox failed me...

looking at the BMW gearboxes, ZF and getrag, i was told that the 525+530tdi gearboxes was durable, but also that the sixspeed was even stronger.

have found a sixspeed gearbox belonging to bmw m5 etc, an S6S 420g, getrag gearbox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag_420G_transmission

any input on durability on those? what is the best to choose from? its a tad more expensive than the fivespeeds, but 0.83 on sixth gear and perhaps better durability doesnt sound that bad.


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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
10-03-2013, 10:12 AM #2
Sorry for not being any help, but what happened to your gearbox? How much torque are you making and what kind of clutch? Those gear boxes have been called "indestructible".
raysorenson
10-03-2013, 10:12 AM #2

Sorry for not being any help, but what happened to your gearbox? How much torque are you making and what kind of clutch? Those gear boxes have been called "indestructible".

fcp
GTA2056V

89
10-03-2013, 02:45 PM #3
Did you see my ongoing thread about GS6-53DZ adapter to OM606? http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...06-Adapter

This is the current ZF 6-speed manual fitted to many post 2008-ish BMWs including E46. It is readily available here in the UK from breakers, but not as cheap as older E46 gearboxes (which have different bellhousing pattern).

It is reported to be very strong indeed. The older 5 speed ZF version (GS5-39) is rated fro 390Nm, but people have run over 1000Nm I think. The GS6-53 is rated to 530Nm, but should be good for ++>1000Nm

Adapter plate looks possible, but custom flywheel is essential and if you make enough Nm then probably racing clutch too. I am designing for 7.25" Tilton 2 Plate cerametallic and will shortly (next few weeks) have CAD drawings for adapter plate and flywheel for this clutch which I will publish here.
This post was last modified: 10-03-2013, 02:47 PM by fcp.

"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Oscar Wilde
fcp
10-03-2013, 02:45 PM #3

Did you see my ongoing thread about GS6-53DZ adapter to OM606? http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...06-Adapter

This is the current ZF 6-speed manual fitted to many post 2008-ish BMWs including E46. It is readily available here in the UK from breakers, but not as cheap as older E46 gearboxes (which have different bellhousing pattern).

It is reported to be very strong indeed. The older 5 speed ZF version (GS5-39) is rated fro 390Nm, but people have run over 1000Nm I think. The GS6-53 is rated to 530Nm, but should be good for ++>1000Nm

Adapter plate looks possible, but custom flywheel is essential and if you make enough Nm then probably racing clutch too. I am designing for 7.25" Tilton 2 Plate cerametallic and will shortly (next few weeks) have CAD drawings for adapter plate and flywheel for this clutch which I will publish here.


"Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Oscar Wilde

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
10-03-2013, 05:22 PM #4
yeah, saw that thread, the gearbox that i am thinking of buying, that i might get cheep with a whole car is the getrag S6S 420G gearbox, dont know if yours is stronger? rated at 530nm instad of my 420 (490nm) i presume.

anyway, did a tad of racing, track, and excessive boost (perhaps combined with quick shifting) sent the third gear to hell and back,

the engine is a om606, 8mm mynä pump, super hx40, sinterclutch, bmw pressure plate and what might have been the death, a 2.47 rearend.
had a 3.69 earlier, but felt kind of bad to rev out max at 200km/h, and the 2.47 was the only one i had laying around, problem with shipping from US.

the car was dynoed at around 530whp i think, dont know the torque


(but wouldnt that 2.47 be awsome? 350km/h in theoretical top speed Tongue)
This post was last modified: 10-03-2013, 05:27 PM by swampmonkey.

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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
10-03-2013, 05:22 PM #4

yeah, saw that thread, the gearbox that i am thinking of buying, that i might get cheep with a whole car is the getrag S6S 420G gearbox, dont know if yours is stronger? rated at 530nm instad of my 420 (490nm) i presume.

anyway, did a tad of racing, track, and excessive boost (perhaps combined with quick shifting) sent the third gear to hell and back,

the engine is a om606, 8mm mynä pump, super hx40, sinterclutch, bmw pressure plate and what might have been the death, a 2.47 rearend.
had a 3.69 earlier, but felt kind of bad to rev out max at 200km/h, and the 2.47 was the only one i had laying around, problem with shipping from US.

the car was dynoed at around 530whp i think, dont know the torque


(but wouldnt that 2.47 be awsome? 350km/h in theoretical top speed Tongue)


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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

 
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