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Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 03-30-2017
I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - OM616 - 03-31-2017
(03-30-2017, 09:57 PM)Evenglass I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
Are you using the OEM base that attaches to the block? If so, you will need to plug the passageway that the tube plugs into. If I recall correctly (it has been a few years sense I did mine) I made a plug with an o-ring that I slid in (horizontally) somewhere behind the cover plate. A If you leave it open, oil will by pass the filter and go back through that passage to the crankcase making the oil pressure SUPER low if non existent.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - NZScott - 03-31-2017
The system is designed so the top half of the oil filter is a bypass section, where a part of the oil flow goes through a tiny hole in the tube and returns to the crankcase. I think there might be a check valve in the system to stop air getting in and draining the entire filter housing out. (at least that's my theory going by my car and its oil pressure building delay with my turbo oil supply)
Silly question but why not use the OEM filter housing and relocate it? It's something that certainly helps the life of these engines.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 03-31-2017
(03-31-2017, 06:31 PM)NZScott The system is designed so the top half of the oil filter is a bypass section, where a part of the oil flow goes through a tiny hole in the tube and returns to the crankcase. I think there might be a check valve in the system to stop air getting in and draining the entire filter housing out. (at least that's my theory going by my car and its oil pressure building delay with my turbo oil supply)I literally have no room in my engine compartment. And not much room anywhere else for that matter.
Silly question but why not use the OEM filter housing and relocate it? It's something that certainly helps the life of these engines.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 03-31-2017
(03-31-2017, 05:00 PM)OM616Yes, I am using the base. The info I needed. How did yours turn out? Any pictures ?(03-30-2017, 09:57 PM)Evenglass I'm developing a spin on oil filter do to clearance issues. What should I do with the central tube that conects to the housing lid, I understand an air bleed. It or leave it open?
Are you using the OEM base that attaches to the block? If so, you will need to plug the passageway that the tube plugs into. If I recall correctly (it has been a few years sense I did mine) I made a plug with an o-ring that I slid in (horizontally) somewhere behind the cover plate. A If you leave it open, oil will by pass the filter and go back through that passage to the crankcase making the oil pressure SUPER low if non existent.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - NZScott - 03-31-2017
(03-31-2017, 10:41 PM)Evenglass I literally have no room in my engine compartment. And not much room anywhere else for that matter.
Fair enough
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - MFSuper90 - 04-01-2017
I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - zeeman - 04-01-2017
(04-01-2017, 11:36 AM)MFSuper90 I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
Someone on here was making some aluminum plates for relocating the original oil filter housing. Maybe you can find the source. Very important to retain the function of the original oil filter housing.
Zeeman
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - OM616 - 04-01-2017
(03-31-2017, 10:44 PM)Evenglass Yes, I am using the base. The info I needed. How did yours turn out? Any pictures ?
616 turbo in a 201 chassis
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-02-2017
(04-01-2017, 07:24 PM)OM616Perfect.(03-31-2017, 10:44 PM)Evenglass Yes, I am using the base. The info I needed. How did yours turn out? Any pictures ?
616 turbo in a 201 chassis
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-02-2017
(04-01-2017, 02:05 PM)zeemanRelocation is not an option. There's nothing special about the Mercedes drop in cartridge. The only piece I'll be replacing is the cartridge with a spin on element. I'll just have to make sure flow is at least equal.(04-01-2017, 11:36 AM)MFSuper90 I have a relocated oil filter, I bought an adapter from 300D50 many moons ago and just got a spin on base from napa
Someone on here was making some aluminum plates for relocating the original oil filter housing. Maybe you can find the source. Very important to retain the function of the original oil filter housing.
Zeeman
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Simpler=Better - 04-03-2017
So uh, should I make a run of relocation plates?
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-04-2017
(04-03-2017, 01:32 PM)Simpler=Better So uh, should I make a run of relocation plates?This sells a nice on for cheap. I just don't have anywhere good relocate to.
http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=A-MB111
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Simpler=Better - 04-04-2017
Doomsday Diesel has them cheaper ($60):
http://doomsdaydiesel.net/PRODUCTS.html
Saves me from another side project
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-15-2017
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My solution. It retains all the functionality of the factory unit but allows for alot of aftermarket options such as; 90* adapters, bypass oil systems, turbo feeds and sending units.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-15-2017
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RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-15-2017
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RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Simpler=Better - 04-17-2017
It's purdy!
Get some glove tips over the onjectors before something gets in them!
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Greazzer - 04-17-2017
Just a suggestion for the plate.... make sure you use either steel or aviation grade aluminum and make sure it's thick enough. I have a few plates and I got some from Walt years ago, and thicker seems a safer bet.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-17-2017
(04-17-2017, 12:43 PM)Simpler=Better It's purdy!Will do!
Get some glove tips over the onjectors before something gets in them!
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-17-2017
(04-17-2017, 03:30 PM)Greazzer Just a suggestion for the plate.... make sure you use either steel or aviation grade aluminum and make sure it's thick enough. I have a few plates and I got some from Walt years ago, and thicker seems a safer bet.What plate?
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Greazzer - 04-18-2017
The adaptor plate which goes against the block so you can relocate the oil filter housing, either stock or newer style.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - starynovy - 04-18-2017
So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Simpler=Better - 04-18-2017
(04-18-2017, 02:02 PM)starynovy So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?
Poke a hole in the top and it will drain into the block.
But yes, I make a huge mess on my 4.0L Jeep very oil change.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - OM616 - 04-18-2017
(04-18-2017, 02:02 PM)starynovy So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?
Not if you know what you are doing lol.. There are some tricks to keep from making a mess..
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-19-2017
(04-18-2017, 02:02 PM)starynovy So when you change oil you loosen that and 1 liter of black shit floods whole engine?No. The oil drains back the height of the standpipe inside the housing just like factory.
RE: Om617a spin on oil filter - Evenglass - 04-19-2017
(04-18-2017, 10:25 AM)Greazzer The adaptor plate which goes against the block so you can relocate the oil filter housing, either stock or newer style.This is not for relocation.