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recommend water separation filter?

recommend water separation filter?

 
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mr_manny
Diesel Offroad Club

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11-13-2010, 11:56 AM #1
anyone running a water separation filter?

I'm planning on taking trips to mexico, and have some concerns regarding the quality of diesel south of the border.
I have found a few kits, even some that have reusable filters Smile

Anything in the 80gph range sould be good...right?

any input/recommendations are appreciated.

mr_manny
11-13-2010, 11:56 AM #1

anyone running a water separation filter?

I'm planning on taking trips to mexico, and have some concerns regarding the quality of diesel south of the border.
I have found a few kits, even some that have reusable filters Smile

Anything in the 80gph range sould be good...right?

any input/recommendations are appreciated.

ForcedInduction
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11-13-2010, 12:07 PM #2
The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892
ForcedInduction
11-13-2010, 12:07 PM #2

The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892

mr_manny
Diesel Offroad Club

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11-13-2010, 12:30 PM #3
(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892


thanks for the link Forced Smile

any thoughts on a reusable filter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SALMINI-FILTER-FUEL-..._500wt_922


Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile
mr_manny
11-13-2010, 12:30 PM #3

(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892


thanks for the link Forced Smile

any thoughts on a reusable filter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SALMINI-FILTER-FUEL-..._500wt_922


Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile

anjay
1998 E300 Turbodiesel

57
11-14-2010, 11:33 AM #4
(11-13-2010, 12:30 PM)mr_manny
(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892


thanks for the link Forced Smile

any thoughts on a reusable filter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SALMINI-FILTER-FUEL-..._500wt_922

It is perfect... for the boat!

anjay
11-14-2010, 11:33 AM #4

(11-13-2010, 12:30 PM)mr_manny
(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892


thanks for the link Forced Smile

any thoughts on a reusable filter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SALMINI-FILTER-FUEL-..._500wt_922

It is perfect... for the boat!

mr_manny
Diesel Offroad Club

91
11-15-2010, 11:42 PM #5
any thoughts on a fram/Baldwin/caterpillar setup?

found a few references around these and really like the international availability, along with replacement costs Smile

a few links for your reading pleasure:

Installing additional fuel filters, GDP w/ Cat 2 Micron, and a Fuel/Water Sep.... - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum - View Single Post - Engine-mounted Cat 2 mic/Water separator

Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile
mr_manny
11-15-2010, 11:42 PM #5

any thoughts on a fram/Baldwin/caterpillar setup?

found a few references around these and really like the international availability, along with replacement costs Smile

a few links for your reading pleasure:

Installing additional fuel filters, GDP w/ Cat 2 Micron, and a Fuel/Water Sep.... - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum - View Single Post - Engine-mounted Cat 2 mic/Water separator


Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile

300D50
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11-16-2010, 01:01 AM #6
I'll grab part numbers off the little Racor one I have if I remember. It's about the size of the stock filter, but it's a bit odd. You spin the filter on the flange, then spin the water bowl onto the filter. Holds a vac quite well, ended up leaving the shutoff closed one time...

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

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300D50
11-16-2010, 01:01 AM #6

I'll grab part numbers off the little Racor one I have if I remember. It's about the size of the stock filter, but it's a bit odd. You spin the filter on the flange, then spin the water bowl onto the filter. Holds a vac quite well, ended up leaving the shutoff closed one time...


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
11-18-2010, 01:42 PM #7
(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892

This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?My maintenance plans include changing the filters with the oil every 10,000 to 15,000 miles.Would that keep water out of the fuel system?What would you recommend?This car will not be a daily driver,but will be driven a few times a month.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
11-18-2010, 01:42 PM #7

(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892

This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?My maintenance plans include changing the filters with the oil every 10,000 to 15,000 miles.Would that keep water out of the fuel system?What would you recommend?This car will not be a daily driver,but will be driven a few times a month.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
11-18-2010, 11:59 PM #8
(11-18-2010, 01:42 PM)ben2go
(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892

This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?My maintenance plans include changing the filters with the oil every 10,000 to 15,000 miles.Would that keep water out of the fuel system?What would you recommend?This car will not be a daily driver,but will be driven a few times a month.

For your application, I would run a 2 micron Baldwin BF7591-D with a drain on the stock head.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/fuel...t-176.html

Or you can run a 2 micron CAT 1R-0750 without drain on the stock head too with an 1"-14 adapter. It's a bit taller then the Baldwin, but will certainly keep some water at the bottom of the filter until you change it out in your replacement interval.






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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
11-18-2010, 11:59 PM #8

(11-18-2010, 01:42 PM)ben2go
(11-13-2010, 12:07 PM)ForcedInduction The stock filter separates water, it just doesn't have a drain like modern ones.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-Raco...0489185892

This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?My maintenance plans include changing the filters with the oil every 10,000 to 15,000 miles.Would that keep water out of the fuel system?What would you recommend?This car will not be a daily driver,but will be driven a few times a month.

For your application, I would run a 2 micron Baldwin BF7591-D with a drain on the stock head.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/fuel...t-176.html

Or you can run a 2 micron CAT 1R-0750 without drain on the stock head too with an 1"-14 adapter. It's a bit taller then the Baldwin, but will certainly keep some water at the bottom of the filter until you change it out in your replacement interval.






.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
11-19-2010, 07:40 AM #9
Thanks.I'll keep that in mind when I set everything up.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
11-19-2010, 07:40 AM #9

Thanks.I'll keep that in mind when I set everything up.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

ForcedInduction
Banned

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11-19-2010, 08:42 AM #10
(11-18-2010, 01:42 PM)ben2go This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?

Not really. Keep the tank vent clean and the cap seal tight.
Moisture in the air is minimal concern unless you're frequently driving through streams where the tank vent would be submerged. Water contamination usually comes from underground storage tanks that are corroded or have a poorly sealing lid at ground level.

The baldwin mod is a good option, better filtration is never a bad idea.
This post was last modified: 11-19-2010, 08:44 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
11-19-2010, 08:42 AM #10

(11-18-2010, 01:42 PM)ben2go This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?

Not really. Keep the tank vent clean and the cap seal tight.
Moisture in the air is minimal concern unless you're frequently driving through streams where the tank vent would be submerged. Water contamination usually comes from underground storage tanks that are corroded or have a poorly sealing lid at ground level.

The baldwin mod is a good option, better filtration is never a bad idea.

ben2go
Diesel Dumby

129
11-20-2010, 07:07 PM #11
(11-19-2010, 08:42 AM)ForcedInduction
(11-18-2010, 01:42 PM)ben2go This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?

Not really. Keep the tank vent clean and the cap seal tight.
Moisture in the air is minimal concern unless you're frequently driving through streams where the tank vent would be submerged. Water contamination usually comes from underground storage tanks that are corroded or have a poorly sealing lid at ground level.

The baldwin mod is a good option, better filtration is never a bad idea.

Thanks.I'll be doing that one.

1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual
ben2go
11-20-2010, 07:07 PM #11

(11-19-2010, 08:42 AM)ForcedInduction
(11-18-2010, 01:42 PM)ben2go This has been a concern of mine.My car uses a poly tank from the factory.I'm told that they do not sweat as bad as steel tanks,but I live in a very humid area.Should I consider ditching the stock Mercedes unit and go with one like you posted?

Not really. Keep the tank vent clean and the cap seal tight.
Moisture in the air is minimal concern unless you're frequently driving through streams where the tank vent would be submerged. Water contamination usually comes from underground storage tanks that are corroded or have a poorly sealing lid at ground level.

The baldwin mod is a good option, better filtration is never a bad idea.

Thanks.I'll be doing that one.


1990 Mercury Blue Max Cougar 3.8L with Automatic
Future OM617 Super Turbo Diesel Conversion with T56 6 Speed Manual

 
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