Differences between N/A and turbo OM606?
Differences between N/A and turbo OM606?
What are the main differences? If I were looking for an engine to build, would it matter what I started out with? My eventual plans are around 550rwhp with a myna or similar mechanical pump and a huge turbo with a swap into a Datsun 280ZX and a manual gear box.
I can find an OM606 turbo engine for around $2000 plus shipping, or there is a 1995 om606 n/a about 100 miles away for $575. Since I would have to get a new exhaust manifold for the massive turbo HE351ve, and a completely different injection pump, would the only thing I would need to address be the rods? I can buy a lot of custom rods for $1425. well, not a lot, but 2 sets at least!
From what I have turned up on the web, the turbos and N/As share cranks, blocks, heads, different cams (n/a makes more power when turbo'd?) N/A pistons can hold high HP , but the rods can't from what I have been able to find.
any and all help would be greatly appreciated! or, if this has already been discussed, a link to the thread would be awesome! thanks in advance
I searched for a bit, maybe I didn't go back far enough so pardon my ignorance.
What are the main differences? If I were looking for an engine to build, would it matter what I started out with? My eventual plans are around 550rwhp with a myna or similar mechanical pump and a huge turbo with a swap into a Datsun 280ZX and a manual gear box.
I can find an OM606 turbo engine for around $2000 plus shipping, or there is a 1995 om606 n/a about 100 miles away for $575. Since I would have to get a new exhaust manifold for the massive turbo HE351ve, and a completely different injection pump, would the only thing I would need to address be the rods? I can buy a lot of custom rods for $1425. well, not a lot, but 2 sets at least!
From what I have turned up on the web, the turbos and N/As share cranks, blocks, heads, different cams (n/a makes more power when turbo'd?) N/A pistons can hold high HP , but the rods can't from what I have been able to find.
any and all help would be greatly appreciated! or, if this has already been discussed, a link to the thread would be awesome! thanks in advance
HE351ve is not a huge turbo and will not get you to 550hp.
This is a huge turbo
But maybe it will be a little slow to spool
Don't focus only on the price difference on the 2 engines, also consider milage, condition and how complete they are. the plus side of the 606 n/a is that is has mechanical pump if it is from a w124. But there are many differences in favor of the turbo engine, you mentioned a few and the block is different(oil lines in and out of turbo), and different oil pump(I believe), and external oil cooler + maybe more details I haven't noticed yet.
HE351ve is not a huge turbo and will not get you to 550hp.
This is a huge turbo
But maybe it will be a little slow to spool
The HE351VE flows about 65lbs/min in its effeciency range, and that, on a gasser engine would be around 650hp crank.
I would be planning a rebuild either way, so the condition of the engine is kind of a moot point, as long as all the parts are there and service-able.
The oil lines and cooler I am not concerned about, as all of that can be added after market, and would have to be re-done anyway with such a custom engine build in the works.
The HE351VE flows about 65lbs/min in its effeciency range, and that, on a gasser engine would be around 650hp crank.
I would be planning a rebuild either way, so the condition of the engine is kind of a moot point, as long as all the parts are there and service-able.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
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04-11-2012, 05:02 PM #4I found a turbo about that size, maybe larger, yesterday in the automotive shop at school hiding with a bunch of other neat stuff
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
In order to do this, I'd need to install stronger rods (is there anything from the MB Parts bin that would work), swap the oil pumps, and anything else?
1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt
I'm starting to ponder a build and had the exact same question as the OP. I've found a couple complete w124 om606 cars kicking around here. I was thinking about buying 1 and upgrading it to a turbo with a big pump/IC/Turbo.
In order to do this, I'd need to install stronger rods (is there anything from the MB Parts bin that would work), swap the oil pumps, and anything else?
1991 350SDL, burning oil and slow
1991 500SL, yet another project car
1984 190D, swapped 3.6 m104 with a megasquirt
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