OM 602 G Mercedes build for off-road racing
OM 602 G Mercedes build for off-road racing
07-09-2013, 03:52 PM
#51
(07-07-2013, 01:35 AM)mbz123(05-20-2013, 09:31 AM)offroaddieselhu I have to optimalizate.
Yes, I must do this too! Looking good on the build and following closely for the turbo infos.
THX
MBZ123
THX
It is the best geometric turbo car from me!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=550...=2&theater
This post was last modified: 07-09-2013, 03:59 PM by offroaddieselhu.
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07-09-2013, 03:52 PM #51(07-07-2013, 01:35 AM)mbz123(05-20-2013, 09:31 AM)offroaddieselhu I have to optimalizate.
Yes, I must do this too! Looking good on the build and following closely for the turbo infos.
THX
MBZ123
THX
It is the best geometric turbo car from me!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=550...=2&theater
07-20-2013, 06:38 AM
#54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eROyX9Ih...h8itXs2hZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPWgOaIX...h8itXs2hZQ
07-20-2013, 02:03 PM
#56
(07-20-2013, 01:37 PM)Gforce are you using the standard mercedes w460 axles?
Hi,
Yes, but I drive very carefully. There is a special lock, but I don't use this. I don't test or use on concret.
One was that I try on concret and firs start I crashed the gear!!! (It was the wants of the costumer.)
Offroaddieselhu
(07-17-2013, 06:55 AM)offroaddieselhu Hi,
I try a bigger cramshaft.
Hi,
I think till now the change of cramshaft is succesfull!
Offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 07-20-2013, 02:19 PM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
07-20-2013, 02:03 PM #56(07-20-2013, 01:37 PM)Gforce are you using the standard mercedes w460 axles?
Hi,
Yes, but I drive very carefully. There is a special lock, but I don't use this. I don't test or use on concret.
One was that I try on concret and firs start I crashed the gear!!! (It was the wants of the costumer.)
Offroaddieselhu
(07-17-2013, 06:55 AM)offroaddieselhu Hi,
I try a bigger cramshaft.
Hi,
I think till now the change of cramshaft is succesfull!
Offroaddieselhu
07-20-2013, 04:05 PM
#58
(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
602 0510601
(07-20-2013, 04:05 PM)offroaddieselhu(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
602 0510601
602 0510601
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07-20-2013, 04:05 PM #58(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
602 0510601
(07-20-2013, 04:05 PM)offroaddieselhu(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
602 0510601
602 0510601
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07-21-2013, 03:27 AM
#59
(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
Hi,
This is an original cramshaft, but from an other car.
Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
07-21-2013, 03:27 AM #59(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
Hi,
This is an original cramshaft, but from an other car.
Offroaddieselhu
07-21-2013, 06:40 AM
#61
(07-21-2013, 03:27 AM)offroaddieselhu(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
Hi,
This is an original cramshaft, but from an other car.
Offroaddieselhu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfEVv9RT...h8itXs2hZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKlyK3Ut...h8itXs2hZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2G0c2i...h8itXs2hZQ
(07-21-2013, 05:04 AM)mantahead(07-21-2013, 03:27 AM)offroaddieselhu(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
Hi,
This is an original cramshaft, but from an other car.
Offroaddieselhu
is it n/a cam, have you much more lift?
Hi,
Serie (original) camshaft: intake lift 8,4 mm
outtake lift 9,0 mm
OM602 IDI carmshaft: intake lift: 9,1 mm
outtake lift: 10,0 mm
It is a quite worn camshaft, maybe it is bigger a bit (some decade mm).
Offroaddieselhu
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offroaddieselhu
07-21-2013, 06:40 AM #61(07-21-2013, 03:27 AM)offroaddieselhu(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
Hi,
This is an original cramshaft, but from an other car.
Offroaddieselhu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfEVv9RT...h8itXs2hZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKlyK3Ut...h8itXs2hZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2G0c2i...h8itXs2hZQ
(07-21-2013, 05:04 AM)mantahead(07-21-2013, 03:27 AM)offroaddieselhu(07-20-2013, 03:59 PM)mantahead hi,
did you get cams re-profiled?
Hi,
This is an original cramshaft, but from an other car.
Offroaddieselhu
is it n/a cam, have you much more lift?
Hi,
Serie (original) camshaft: intake lift 8,4 mm
outtake lift 9,0 mm
OM602 IDI carmshaft: intake lift: 9,1 mm
outtake lift: 10,0 mm
It is a quite worn camshaft, maybe it is bigger a bit (some decade mm).
Offroaddieselhu
07-23-2013, 05:36 PM
#62
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC1uHsuhd...ture=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfB2ozCAw...h8itXs2hZQ
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07-23-2013, 05:36 PM #62VE tuning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC1uHsuhd...ture=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfB2ozCAw...h8itXs2hZQ
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10-27-2013, 12:51 PM
#63
Offroaddieselhu
(10-27-2013, 12:51 PM)offroaddieselhu This is an other project (OM602) with hybrid turbo. Compressor wheel is 63.
Offroaddieselhu
turbo 63mm
This post was last modified: 10-27-2013, 12:56 PM by offroaddieselhu.
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10-27-2013, 12:51 PM #63This is an other project (OM602) with hybrid turbo. Compressor wheel is 63.
Offroaddieselhu
(10-27-2013, 12:51 PM)offroaddieselhu This is an other project (OM602) with hybrid turbo. Compressor wheel is 63.
Offroaddieselhu
turbo 63mm
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10-27-2013, 05:03 PM
#64
How far are you from firing it up?
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
10-27-2013, 05:03 PM #64so cool!!!!!
How far are you from firing it up?
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
11-14-2013, 10:07 AM
#65
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgiKvCQZPH4
I start to test
offroaddieselhu
11-14-2013, 10:07 AM #65https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHWm5RfflLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgiKvCQZPH4
I start to test
11-15-2013, 02:23 PM
#67
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...s/wink.gif
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
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offroaddieselhu
11-15-2013, 02:23 PM #67(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...s/wink.gif
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
11-16-2013, 12:42 PM
#68
(11-15-2013, 02:23 PM)offroaddieselhu(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...s/wink.gif
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiG0Cf9F...h8itXs2hZQ
(11-16-2013, 12:42 PM)offroaddieselhu(11-15-2013, 02:23 PM)offroaddieselhu(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...s/wink.gif
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiG0Cf9F...h8itXs2hZQ
OM602+ bosio powerplus
This post was last modified: 11-16-2013, 12:47 PM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
11-16-2013, 12:42 PM #68(11-15-2013, 02:23 PM)offroaddieselhu(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...s/wink.gif
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiG0Cf9F...h8itXs2hZQ
(11-16-2013, 12:42 PM)offroaddieselhu(11-15-2013, 02:23 PM)offroaddieselhu(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/imag...s/wink.gif
(11-15-2013, 01:36 PM)2996 Very nice work to the pump, and everything else really!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiG0Cf9F...h8itXs2hZQ
OM602+ bosio powerplus
01-13-2014, 04:55 AM
#70
(01-10-2014, 05:14 PM)Stamsaas Nice Work you are doing!Did you notice big differance with the camshaft? Are they from n/a engine?
And do the 320cdi oilpump fit straight in?
Hi,
Sorry a missed the number. I'll writte the right but I have to look it for.
It's better.
The engine is OM602 without turbo so called prechamber engine.
THe oil pump is fit into it, ony srew you must change.
Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-13-2014, 04:55 AM #70(01-10-2014, 05:14 PM)Stamsaas Nice Work you are doing!
And do the 320cdi oilpump fit straight in?
Hi,
Sorry a missed the number. I'll writte the right but I have to look it for.
It's better.
The engine is OM602 without turbo so called prechamber engine.
THe oil pump is fit into it, ony srew you must change.
Offroaddieselhu
02-08-2014, 04:09 PM
#71
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=191317521078237
offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
02-08-2014, 04:09 PM #71winter fun
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=191317521078237
offroaddieselhu
12-26-2014, 03:07 PM
#72
G-MOG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0SCyCBMv0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5sQBndbPc
offroaddieselhu
12-26-2014, 03:07 PM #72HI
G-MOG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0SCyCBMv0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5sQBndbPc
12-30-2014, 10:33 AM
#74
(12-30-2014, 05:45 AM)erling66 Hi
I can see that you know Bosch VE pumps very well
Hi,
I use the original 2.9 pump (Inside parts only)
Tanks the praising words.
Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
12-30-2014, 10:33 AM #74(12-30-2014, 05:45 AM)erling66 Hi
I can see that you know Bosch VE pumps very well
Hi,
I use the original 2.9 pump (Inside parts only)
Tanks the praising words.
Offroaddieselhu
12-30-2014, 11:40 AM
#75
(12-30-2014, 10:33 AM)offroaddieselhu(12-30-2014, 05:45 AM)erling66 Hi
I can see that you know Bosch VE pumps very well
Hi,
I use the original 2.9 pump (Inside parts only)
Tanks the praising words.
Offroaddieselhu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1JX7E3wKqA
offroaddieselhu
12-30-2014, 11:40 AM #75(12-30-2014, 10:33 AM)offroaddieselhu(12-30-2014, 05:45 AM)erling66 Hi
I can see that you know Bosch VE pumps very well
Hi,
I use the original 2.9 pump (Inside parts only)
Tanks the praising words.
Offroaddieselhu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1JX7E3wKqA
![[Image: 29vepump_zps24234fe6.jpg]](http://s1231.photobucket.com/user/erling66/media/Taunus%2077%20green/29vepump_zps24234fe6.jpg.html)
12-31-2014, 05:40 AM
#77
(12-31-2014, 04:20 AM)erling66 Every 2.9 VE pump I have seen are electronically controlled and looks like this:
So is there also some mechanical ve pumps? or do you use the electrical pump and rebuild it to be mechanical? Thank you for info
Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
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12-31-2014, 05:40 AM #77(12-31-2014, 04:20 AM)erling66 Every 2.9 VE pump I have seen are electronically controlled and looks like this:
So is there also some mechanical ve pumps? or do you use the electrical pump and rebuild it to be mechanical? Thank you for info
Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Attached Files
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01-05-2015, 05:49 AM
#78
(12-31-2014, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu(12-31-2014, 04:20 AM)erling66 Every 2.9 VE pump I have seen are electronically controlled and looks like this:
So is there also some mechanical ve pumps? or do you use the electrical pump and rebuild it to be mechanical? Thank you for info
Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
EDH_Performance
01-05-2015, 05:49 AM #78(12-31-2014, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu(12-31-2014, 04:20 AM)erling66 Every 2.9 VE pump I have seen are electronically controlled and looks like this:
So is there also some mechanical ve pumps? or do you use the electrical pump and rebuild it to be mechanical? Thank you for info
Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
01-05-2015, 06:25 AM
#79
(01-05-2015, 05:49 AM)EDH_Performance(12-31-2014, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu(12-31-2014, 04:20 AM)erling66 Every 2.9 VE pump I have seen are electronically controlled and looks like this:
So is there also some mechanical ve pumps? or do you use the electrical pump and rebuild it to be mechanical? Thank you for info
Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
Hi,
You should the axel correct to 20mm or to use some 20mm axel.
Otherwise it is perfect to this aim.
Or the 1.6 Golf D house.
offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-05-2015, 06:25 AM #79(01-05-2015, 05:49 AM)EDH_Performance(12-31-2014, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu(12-31-2014, 04:20 AM)erling66 Every 2.9 VE pump I have seen are electronically controlled and looks like this:
So is there also some mechanical ve pumps? or do you use the electrical pump and rebuild it to be mechanical? Thank you for info
Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
Hi,
You should the axel correct to 20mm or to use some 20mm axel.
Otherwise it is perfect to this aim.
Or the 1.6 Golf D house.
offroaddieselhu
01-05-2015, 06:37 AM
#80
(01-05-2015, 06:25 AM)offroaddieselhu(01-05-2015, 05:49 AM)EDH_Performance(12-31-2014, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
Hi,
You should the axel correct to 20mm or to use some 20mm axel.
Otherwise it is perfect to this aim.
Or the 1.6 Golf D house.
offroaddieselhu
Ahh, okey.
Is the 1.3d and vw 1.6d stock axel 17mm or around there?
And do you bore out the housing to fit the bigger 20mm shaft?
This post was last modified: 01-05-2015, 06:47 AM by EDH_Performance.
EDH_Performance
01-05-2015, 06:37 AM #80(01-05-2015, 06:25 AM)offroaddieselhu(01-05-2015, 05:49 AM)EDH_Performance(12-31-2014, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu Hi,
I put the mechanical parts into this socalled house of VE pump.
Offroaddieselhu
Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
Hi,
You should the axel correct to 20mm or to use some 20mm axel.
Otherwise it is perfect to this aim.
Or the 1.6 Golf D house.
offroaddieselhu
Ahh, okey.
Is the 1.3d and vw 1.6d stock axel 17mm or around there?
And do you bore out the housing to fit the bigger 20mm shaft?
01-05-2015, 07:54 AM
#81
(01-05-2015, 06:37 AM)EDH_Performance(01-05-2015, 06:25 AM)offroaddieselhu(01-05-2015, 05:49 AM)EDH_Performance Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
Hi,
You should the axel correct to 20mm or to use some 20mm axel.
Otherwise it is perfect to this aim.
Or the 1.6 Golf D house.
offroaddieselhu
Ahh, okey.
Is the 1.3d and vw 1.6d stock axel 17mm or around there?
And do you bore out the housing to fit the bigger 20mm shaft?
from 17 to 20mm
offroaddieselhu
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01-05-2015, 07:54 AM #81(01-05-2015, 06:37 AM)EDH_Performance(01-05-2015, 06:25 AM)offroaddieselhu(01-05-2015, 05:49 AM)EDH_Performance Does this Fiat 1300D pump housing have the right axel and nose dimensions to fit straight into a 290D adapter?
Hi,
You should the axel correct to 20mm or to use some 20mm axel.
Otherwise it is perfect to this aim.
Or the 1.6 Golf D house.
offroaddieselhu
Ahh, okey.
Is the 1.3d and vw 1.6d stock axel 17mm or around there?
And do you bore out the housing to fit the bigger 20mm shaft?
from 17 to 20mm
offroaddieselhu
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01-05-2015, 09:28 AM
#82
lost in the diesel universe.............
Nice work! I always asked myself why nobody tunes the VE 602 engine, and here I find somebody at last! This engine is pretty much simmilar to 2.5 tdi AEL, 140 hp from VW. They upgrade the nozzles, turbo,IC and software and there they are 300hp and 600 nm! Why can't be done the same thing with the 602 engine, as it is even bigger? With a 12mm pump head even 400+ hp powers should be reachable! What do u think offroaddiesel, as u're the 602 VE expert on this forum?
lost in the diesel universe.............
01-05-2015, 10:25 AM
#83
(01-05-2015, 09:28 AM)raidaru Nice work! I always asked myself why nobody tunes the VE 602 engine, and here I find somebody at last! This engine is pretty much simmilar to 2.5 tdi AEL, 140 hp from VW. They upgrade the nozzles, turbo,IC and software and there they are 300hp and 600 nm! Why can't be done the same thing with the 602 engine, as it is even bigger? With a 12mm pump head even 400+ hp powers should be reachable! What do u think offroaddiesel, as u're the 602 VE expert on this forum?
Hi,
I think there isn't any nozzle to fitting it. Sotherefore I would make easier 400+ hp from 1.9 TDI.
From ths engine I would propose 320-350 Hp. (I'm making this)
Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
01-05-2015, 10:25 AM #83(01-05-2015, 09:28 AM)raidaru Nice work! I always asked myself why nobody tunes the VE 602 engine, and here I find somebody at last! This engine is pretty much simmilar to 2.5 tdi AEL, 140 hp from VW. They upgrade the nozzles, turbo,IC and software and there they are 300hp and 600 nm! Why can't be done the same thing with the 602 engine, as it is even bigger? With a 12mm pump head even 400+ hp powers should be reachable! What do u think offroaddiesel, as u're the 602 VE expert on this forum?
Hi,
I think there isn't any nozzle to fitting it. Sotherefore I would make easier 400+ hp from 1.9 TDI.
From ths engine I would propose 320-350 Hp. (I'm making this)
Offroaddieselhu
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