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RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - sassparilla_kid - 06-05-2014
All I'm gonna say is AAA paid 5x what I paid for my w115 to get it repaired, in an accident they said I was at fault, and my rates didn't change, and I got hit maybe an hour after getting the policy
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - JB3 - 06-05-2014
(06-05-2014, 09:27 AM)sassparilla_kid All I'm gonna say is AAA paid 5x what I paid for my w115 to get it repaired, in an accident they said I was at fault, and my rates didn't change, and I got hit maybe an hour after getting the policy
you mean USAA?
ive had the same experience as you from USAA when ive had claims issues, but everyone has different results with insurance.
I also never had full coverage on anything until this last year, so we will see.
Its unfortunate that Greazzer is having this problem
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Purplecomputer - 06-05-2014
(06-05-2014, 09:37 AM)JB3(06-05-2014, 09:27 AM)sassparilla_kid All I'm gonna say is AAA paid 5x what I paid for my w115 to get it repaired, in an accident they said I was at fault, and my rates didn't change, and I got hit maybe an hour after getting the policy
you mean USAA?
ive had the same experience as you from USAA when ive had claims issues, but everyone has different results with insurance.
I also never had full coverage on anything until this last year, so we will see.
Its unfortunate that Greazzer is having this problem
Pretty sure AAA also offers car insurance as well as road side assistant packages.
I have geico. Never had a problem. The one time I was in an accident (totalled my old jetta TDI, totally my fault too)
They fought and fought and fought for me for like a year and then settled with the other company. My rate never went up and I didnt have to pay a single dime considering this was a very bad accident and it was all my fault.
due to being a male under age 25 and driving around a very temperamental car my insurances is about $100 a month.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - sassparilla_kid - 06-05-2014
Not USAA, AAA. I pay $138/month for three vehicles (two Mercedes and the IH pickup) and I have comprehensive coverage on the w115, and I know people my age or a little older who pay more for liability only on one car. AAA is a winner in my book, and I also get like two 100 mile tows a year maybe one longer one, I'm not sure
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - JB3 - 06-05-2014
(06-05-2014, 02:36 PM)sassparilla_kid Not USAA, AAA. I pay $138/month for three vehicles (two Mercedes and the IH pickup) and I have comprehensive coverage on the w115, and I know people my age or a little older who pay more for liability only on one car. AAA is a winner in my book, and I also get like two 100 mile tows a year maybe one longer one, I'm not sure
good deal. maybe a possible choice for the greazzer if he gets take for a ride
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 06-14-2014
Sort of switched gears since my windshield got fixed and I am waiting on the verdict for the hail damage.
I think this is probably one of those overlooked projects but it might score some huge dividends since a super quiet cabin would be awsome. It's sort of quiet now with the lame factory sound proofing so I am shooting for some STD results.
Here are the CLD tiles installed, covering around 25% of the surface area (per the manufacturer) and they seem to have quieted down the resonance (I have it during shifting and reving up). Was sort of surprised.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Purplecomputer - 06-14-2014
(06-14-2014, 09:32 AM)Greazzer Sort of switched gears since my windshield got fixed and I am waiting on the verdict for the hail damage.
I think this is probably one of those overlooked projects but it might score some huge dividends since a super quiet cabin would be awsome. It's sort of quiet now with the lame factory sound proofing so I am shooting for some STD results.
Here are the CLD tiles installed, covering around 25% of the surface area (per the manufacturer) and they seem to have quieted down the resonance (I have it during shifting and reving up). Was sort of surprised.
very nice. These old cars can be super loud! any bit helps.
hopefully you get the hail damage thing sorted out without having to lose the car or anything dreadful.
would be a shame to lose another w123
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - raysorenson - 06-15-2014
I did the butyl backed foil thing on mine too but I covered that entire area. Wonder why they said only do 25%.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Simpler=Better - 06-16-2014
(06-14-2014, 09:32 AM)Greazzer Sort of switched gears since my windshield got fixed and I am waiting on the verdict for the hail damage.
I think this is probably one of those overlooked projects but it might score some huge dividends since a super quiet cabin would be awsome. It's sort of quiet now with the lame factory sound proofing so I am shooting for some STD results.
Here are the CLD tiles installed, covering around 25% of the surface area (per the manufacturer) and they seem to have quieted down the resonance (I have it during shifting and reving up). Was sort of surprised.
Diminishing returns. The theory goes like this(made up numbers): 25% coverage knocks down noise by 80%. 100% coverage knocks noise by 85%So to knock down noise by 95%, you'd be spending 4x as much for that little bit more reduction.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 06-16-2014
Not sure of the exact theory but Ryan's thoughts sound logical to me. I have noticed a difference within those 5 or 6 panels. I am surprised. Next is the de-coupler and MLV, which I am thinking is the real test.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - raysorenson - 06-16-2014
Well I'll be shit. Live and learn.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - DeliveryValve - 06-16-2014
They do that with later model cars especially on the doors. One little patch here and there, that is good enough for the manufacturer and saves them money.
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RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - propigskinSLS - 06-27-2014
Its looking awesome. A special thanks to Greazzer for testing the new w123 performance rear springs. They are now live on my site at www.slsconversion.com if anyone would like to take a peak.
Thanks,
propigskin
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - DeliveryValve - 06-27-2014
(02-03-2014, 02:20 PM)Greazzer ...
Got my AMG chin proudly showing. ...
I have to ask you to post up pictures of how you fastened that thing to your car.
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RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 07-24-2014
Since I really cannot do much car stuff recently, I got my teenage son involved. He's now starting to show an interest in cars and the ladies. I'm pretty sure they go hand-in-hand. With instructions from me, he installed the shift boot in about 45 minutes. That included removing the console, contact cement (Permatex contact cement @ $5 from Autzone) application, boot install, and then console back in car.
Here's my sexy red leather shift boot. Directions are pretty straightfoward and for real leather with a real quality appearance about the product, I am very happy. Also, it is almost an exact, precise match to my red leather interior which was a bonus. Seat covers are still pending. There are a few issues with the covers which I am trying to iron out with the manufacturer.
Here's a few snappies. Hopefully, I will have my interior completed by the end of August. My son will be learning he ropes ...lol
Here's all the contact info from Redlinegoods.
From: info@redlinegoods.com
Have a great day!
Maciek (Mike)
Redline
Goods -
Show Pride
In Your Ride!
FB: RedlineGoods
Great product at a great price with great customer service.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Simpler=Better - 07-25-2014
Looks great! If you want any other custom stuff done real good contact user "Rat_ Fighter" over on the customfighters board. His brother does insane upholstry work.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 07-31-2014
Thanks Ryan,
I think I finally got my interior on the right road so to speak. It only took 5 months ... lol
Here's some of my son's first work on the MB. I really cannot do a whole bunch with a few bum disks in my back right now. Even 15+ minutes sitting behind the computer starts to suck.
He cleaned out the garage and drove the old girl in and installed the rear spoiler and intake.
Looking for options now on the heater hose from the 7/8" firewall to the 3/4" radiator nipple.
Ignore the cone filter. Still trying to get pictures of the California air box set up and I am missing a few pieces I think.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Simpler=Better - 08-01-2014
I'd solder up some copper adapters from your favorite hardware store (or give a plumber $10 for spares) to go from 3/4-7/8
Otherwise soemone with a compression machine cna take a 7/8" alum pipe down to 3/4" easy.
If you get hung up I'll turn an adapter for you, that's a mad easy part to make.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 08-01-2014
??? I need something rubber to connect to the plastic (grey thing on firewall). I wanted to avoid the adapter game or the splice game ... poop. Sounds like I am stuck
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Simpler=Better - 08-01-2014
Ah, go wandering in the parts store behind the counter. IIRC, the turbo w123s have a transitioned ruber hose piece that would fit right in there.
Picked up another 15HP - Greazzer - 08-07-2014
Did I get another 15 HP ... ?
Most likely not, but got the back seat installed. Love the red leather ... Maybe it does add some HP. Who knows
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - bricktron - 08-09-2014
that looks bank, greazzer!
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 08-09-2014
Thank you Sir ! I think once I get my red seat belts and I dye the door cards red, et cet., it will really pop then. Not sure how in the world I got sidetracked screwing around with cosmetics vs. mechanicals ... at least my wife is starting to like the car now. Before, she hated it. Now, since parts and things are finally coming together, a little bit of paint and some rust gone, she generally goes out to the garage now and then to "inspect". WTF ... lol
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Simpler=Better - 08-11-2014
(08-09-2014, 11:20 PM)Greazzer Thank you Sir ! I think once I get my red seat belts and I dye the door cards red, et cet., it will really pop then. Not sure how in the world I got sidetracked screwing around with cosmetics vs. mechanicals ... at least my wife is starting to like the car now. Before, she hated it. Now, since parts and things are finally coming together, a little bit of paint and some rust gone, she generally goes out to the garage now and then to "inspect". WTF ... lol
HP, reliabliity, and mileage don't matter at all if you look dorky in the car.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 08-11-2014
So I look dorky now ... lol
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 08-28-2014
One more seat to go and lots of plastic and vinyl to dye, but so far I like the red interior. Love the look and smell of leather. Since the floor pans need some real work, I am thinking my interior is pretty much stopped in its tracks until that is done. Can't sound proof, et cet.
Time to delete the vacuum booster (manual brakes), finalize the EWP, and bust out the H2O injection again.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - w123love - 08-30-2014
Wow....that looks...like really nice. Awesome job.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 10-05-2014
Wiring on the other hand is my weak link. If anyone knows anything about this pump, please let me know. That is, I am hoping that the pump stops when a certain level of vacuum is achieved. If not, I will have to hook up an "On-Off" switch. If it automatically turns on and off, I still plan on wiring a manual shut off switch just in case.
Since I have the plates, I am thinking I can tackle this week or next weekend the manual brake conversion. Still hoping to improve the current 4.13 to something at least at 5:1. The all desired 6:1 is impossible. I have the 4" thick plate, but still too intimidated to cut the brake pedal assembly aluminum housing ...
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - mbz123 - 10-06-2014
(10-05-2014, 05:20 PM)Greazzer Installed Electric Vacuum Pump in the trunk today. Very simple operation. This came from W124 or W126 (cannot remember at this point). Nice foam housing and plastic insert which mounts very nicely in the spare tire area. Need to source some different fastners since the original ones from the JY are a little loose in the left hand corner. Tapping into the vacuum resevoir should be easy.
Wiring on the other hand is my weak link. If anyone knows anything about this pump, please let me know. That is, I am hoping that the pump stops when a certain level of vacuum is achieved. If not, I will have to hook up an "On-Off" switch. If it automatically turns on and off, I still plan on wiring a manual shut off switch just in case.
What's your application? Little fuzzy on the specs, but pretty sure they're all auto off. Also, list the part no. as there were many revisions, even within the same model line. I know there were at least two different w126 versions operating under different parameters.
MBZ123
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 10-06-2014
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/353063-rebuilding-central-door-lock-vacuum-pump.html
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/243354-w126-vacuum-pump-controller-schematic.html
There are 2 groupings of wires coming from the pump component. I am currently trying to figure out which wires to connect to the "+" and "-" of a small garden tractor battery to see if the pump fires up. I can then terminate the vacuum tubing to a makeshift resevoir. I can even add a gauage to then see if the pump automatically turns off when it hits a certain level of vacuum. Of course, the pump I have could be bad. However, most folks on the net claim these pumps rarely fail.
I will only need vacuum for the ignition, 4 door pods, trunk pod, fuel flap pod, and HVAC (I have the manual system which has 1 or 2 pods). Overall, I have limited need for vacuum. Getting rid of the vacuum boosted brakes which I suspect takes a vast majority of the vacuum.
(10-06-2014, 03:04 AM)mbz123(10-05-2014, 05:20 PM)Greazzer Installed Electric Vacuum Pump in the trunk today. Very simple operation. This came from W124 or W126 (cannot remember at this point). Nice foam housing and plastic insert which mounts very nicely in the spare tire area. Need to source some different fastners since the original ones from the JY are a little loose in the left hand corner. Tapping into the vacuum resevoir should be easy.
Wiring on the other hand is my weak link. If anyone knows anything about this pump, please let me know. That is, I am hoping that the pump stops when a certain level of vacuum is achieved. If not, I will have to hook up an "On-Off" switch. If it automatically turns on and off, I still plan on wiring a manual shut off switch just in case.
What's your application? Little fuzzy on the specs, but pretty sure they're all auto off. Also, list the part no. as there were many revisions, even within the same model line. I know there were at least two different w126 versions operating under different parameters.
MBZ123
My car is a W123 four-door sedan. I am getting rid of the vacuum boosted brakes and going manual.
Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!!!!
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 10-18-2014
Today was supposed to be Jeep day for my daughter. One part after another from RockAuto turned out to be the wrong part shipped, so Jeep is on the back burner. RockAuto used to be #1, until about 6 months ago, and then their service started slipping. Not sure what happened.
BACK TO THE W123
Decided to move forward since almost all of the R&D is done for many of the mods.
An easy one today was the WATER INJECTION. Whatever "blue" washer fluid I can score at the JY will go for injection as well. I need to buy an alchohol gauge (looks like a huge therometer). The water is not really used to boost HP, but more to clean out the chemistry aftermath of burning WVO. A small price to pay for almost free fuel.
The first part was making use of the modified 300D NA intake manifold. Cut off all the tangs and other odds and ends, and relocated the Welsh Plug. Sort of looks like the W115 long runner. It still has the 2 mounts on top which works out perfectly for this mod and application. This was my brain child. LOL
Then, installed the .75 gallon per hour mister (nozzle). I am using Devil's Own products again. I am keeping the 200 PSI factory settings.
You can see the 2 flush fastners and then the 4 fastners which hold the pump.
Mounted, and wires tucked away.
Ready for my electrical day which is coming. Let's see how little I can melt or zap ... lol
Tomorrow I should be able to wrap up my Air Box Mod. Got the correct silicon elbow in the mail 2 days ago. I am thinking I will wrap that up tomorrow.
Then, next weekend, I plan on getting rid of the mechanical vacuum pump since I got that mod just about done. 3 more major mods, then it's turbo engine install time.
NOTE: Did an edit because it looks like one cannot upload more than 1 or 2 pictures.... ????
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 10-20-2014
Electric Vacuump Pump coming along. Mounted in trunk.
Anyone successfully use a 12V vacuum shut off switch ? I need to test and see the amount of vacuum which is created by the mechanical pump so I can match the switch with the amount of vacuum needed.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 10-26-2014
Donors include fuse block from turn of the century Buick, with leads from a few Buicks, 30AMP, and the relay box from an older Nissan. Both are low key. 8 fuses and 6 relays so I should be good.
Once my Deutsch connectors stuff comes in, hopefully I can knock out all electrical stuff in one day ! Then, I can mount the water injection, the EWP, the electric vacuum pump, and the list goes on. In one project -- electrical -- I can wrap up virtually all other projects ...
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 11-06-2014
Manual Brakes are a go ! I acquired the elusive 6:1 ratio -- actually, 6.20:1 !
Spliced a W123 brake pedal arm with W115.
I wish I could post pictures but I am constantly being "dropped" from the web page. Not sure what happened after the forum internet updates ...
Ok, posting pictures now works. Thanks Rolf !
Here is the 99% final version of manual brakes. I achieved a full 9:1 ratio. Very happy about the anticipated final product. I have a full stroke just like the vacuum assisted brakes MB originally came with. Assume the "standard" 70 ft pds of force x 9 = 630 ft pds of force at the pedal. Hopefully the final machined plate will be done within the next few weeks and final install by mid-March.
After 3-6 months of testing, I will have kit available for anyone interested. Will include the vacuum pump delete plate, brake pedal arm, and other miscellaneous items. Install time is about an hour or two max.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 02-19-2015
I will get some snappies of the electric vacuum pump, and allied items which are part of the manual brakes.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 02-19-2015
Aluminum parts finally going back into the engine bay ...
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - led-panzer - 02-19-2015
Wow, that's absolutely beautiful. Damn.
Is that the vacuum pump plate I made?
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Keino - 02-20-2015
Awesome shine!!
How did you polish them?
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 02-20-2015
(02-19-2015, 10:20 PM)led-panzer Wow, that's absolutely beautiful. Damn.
Is that the vacuum pump plate I made?
No, I had another one made. I wish I kept yours.
BTW -- are you spending any time behind the lathe ?
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 02-20-2015
(02-20-2015, 02:34 AM)Keino Awesome shine!!
How did you polish them?
I farmed them out. I think one needs some special equipment to really do the job right. I ended up using a Horrible Freight buffer, et cet., but never got the look I was hoping for. I even got buffing wheels from Caswell, et cet. I ended up going with a firm out of Fla. RK Polishing. INCREDIBLE Customer service and his prices are incredibly low. Actually, at first, I thought the guy was a scammer because his prices were 50% or more lower than the next guy's. Was I WRONG ! He made those parts look like chrome. I wish the camera and lighting really picked up the beauty of his work. Plus, he's fast. I wish I knew how he did it actually.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - led-panzer - 02-20-2015
(02-20-2015, 04:35 PM)Greazzer(02-19-2015, 10:20 PM)led-panzer Wow, that's absolutely beautiful. Damn.
Is that the vacuum pump plate I made?
No, I had another one made. I wish I kept yours.
BTW -- are you spending any time behind the lathe ?
Ah. I was curious if mine ended up working.
Nope, no more lathe work for me. He ended up selling his manual lathe, just has a CNC now, I never learned how to run it.
Again, beautiful manifold.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - w123love - 02-20-2015
Killing the W123 game as usual...keep up the good work
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - EmJay - 02-24-2015
Question, why manual brakes? Could you not find a vacuum pump large enough for the brake booster? I know the Mazda 4 cylinder diesels use an electric vac pump for the brakes.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 02-24-2015
Manual brakes cleans up the engine bay, makes things simpler, et cet. Same as the manual steering box. Gets rid of a tiny amount of parasitic drag off the engine also.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 03-22-2015
Custom Made pulley is done. Double belt system for the OM617 NA engine. Most likely the first and last known ... lol
Getting ready for the EWP and EVP. Turbo engine is on the stand, short block. Head and odds and ends go on this week. Maybe even home by Friday !
The end is in sight so to speak. A long few years. Got a full 10" up front for radiator & fan, condenser & fan, and inter-cooler. Need to re-clock the alternator, but the wires are in for the most part. Once I yank the NA engine, Getting the engine bay 100% detailed, painted, et cet. Almost all the vacuum lines will be gone (no mechanical vacuum pump), all the wires will be hidden, and the engine should be super simple to work on with everything moved around and relocated.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 04-22-2015
Hopefully the attach pictures function works.
Got the manual brake plate completed and it appears to be 100% this time, as well as the machined push rod (real machining and not a dumbo with a hand drill trying to get it centered), and brake pedal.
Full stroke, 9:1 ratio, and even a nifty stop for the brake pedal actuator. So, average foot pressure of 70 ft pds is now 630 fts pds, which is about par with the vacuum booster. We'll see.
This weekend's job: INTALL -- assuming neck and lower back hold out.
This was about a year in the making, but it looks like all the R&D is now done !
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - wolverine - 04-22-2015
Bad ass! So is the turbo motor in yet? Pics of the pulley setup?
Just getting rid of the vacuum lines under hood will improve the look and accessibility by 500%!!!
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - mike-81-240d - 04-24-2015
Wow kicking ass I see.
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - Greazzer - 05-03-2015
Turbo Engine is coming home this week. Was supposed to bring it home last week, but oldest ended up in the hospital for a week, so off I went to Fort Wayne, IND where I slept in a chair for four nights.
Got the pulley back again, this Saturday. It was off a hair so I got a re-do. Now, it's perfect. Double belt system to run 100+ AMP alt. Here, I have a 150 AMP Alt., which is probably overkill. I need to re-clock it, which is tomorrow's project. Once that occurs, I can power all the electrical gizmo's. Also, the install is up-and-coming for the manual brakes. After that, most of the mod's should fall into place, except the 4-corner HPS system. Still looking for one blasted nylon dust ring.
Although the OM617.912 NA engine is not too sexy, I think I have the first double belt systems out there ... lol
RE: The Sleeper -- Part Deux - DeliveryValve - 05-04-2015
Crazy progress happening! Great nice looking work!