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leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 06-26-2010
oil gauge leak behind the dash. Anybody have luck fitting an electric pressure sender where the oil pressure sender line comes out of the engine? Anyone know the pipe fitting size? Maybe there's a better location to tap into? I'd like to use VDO but there may be a higher quality option for an electric sender hanging off the bottom of a diesel engine. thanks....
Maybe better to run a copper or brass line up higher on the engine and bracket a little drop ear type elbow fitting to the block.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Einar - 06-26-2010
What about pulling a gauge and sender from a 201 or 124?
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - ForcedInduction - 06-26-2010
Why not replace the gauge or fix it? Cracked gauges usually just need to be resoldered at the base of the bourdon tube.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 06-26-2010
later models are compatible? A jewler would make quick work of that little tube without running the good solder joints and filling the thing up and ruining it.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - charmalu - 06-26-2010
Why reinvent the wheel trying to cobble something in there?
there are plenty of them in the JY, just pull one for about $7.
If you want a really nice pretty one, $300.
Charlie
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 06-26-2010
I would love to throw a piece of painted aluminum in there that holds the original speedo tach/clock and room for three or so aftermarket guages.........100 psi oil pressure, oil temperature, water temperature, fuel level.... I wish there was a guage cluster conversion kit for this car because like charmalu said the new guage cluster is many hundreds. love to have an extra cluster to mess with so I can know my readings in the meantime.
I'm going to post a WTB for a worn out cluster now. anyone here have one I could send you a money order for? I could come up with something pretty cool in a few evenings work.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - ForcedInduction - 06-26-2010
I have a spare but it reads in *F and psi instead of *C and bar. Functionally identical.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Syncro_G - 06-27-2010
if you insist on going the electric sender route,
I recommend getting a relocation kit. you can find them for VW's and other makes. you'll get 12 or so inches of braided hose to go from the oil filter housing to the firewall. and then get a VDO sender that matches the range of the gauge you install.
if it were my car, I'd just fix the system that's there - it's easy to replace the hose and as the other guys suggest, it might be easy to fix the gauge too. and you end up with a nice, OEM looking setup.
The G-wagen has an electric gauge so I had to do the relocation kit when I installed the 617A
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 06-28-2010
here's the plan..... oil pressure gauge will go in the overhead console that's coming in the mail with a relocation kit. Oil pressure will read 0 in the stock location but at least i'll have a stock instrument panel to look at. A modern gauge will tell me the real oil pressure, and the old gauge will just be disconnected and the oil behind the dash cleaned up as best as possible. Thanks for the help guys..
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 06-28-2010
is this the sender relocation kit?
http://store.42draftdesigns.com/VW-Oil-Pressure-Relocation-Kit_p_314.html
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-13-2010
Does anyone know the thread pitch and size of the threaded hole coming out of the oil filter housing used for the oil pressure sender tube? Is it M10x1 like any VDO sender?
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 07-13-2010
I want 42's oil catch! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/catchcans.html
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-13-2010
(07-13-2010, 05:52 PM)Captain America I want 42's oil catch! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/catchcans.html
buy me that
I heard the MANN pro-vent 200 works too
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-13-2010
hope you don't mind Captian I reposted your link on this thread:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/home-made-oil-separator-for-california-617-turbo-t-12.html
some good thread
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 07-13-2010
(07-13-2010, 05:59 PM)rdirtycar(07-13-2010, 05:52 PM)Captain America I want 42's oil catch! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/catchcans.html
buy me that
I heard the MANN pro-vent 200 works too
Lol, easy there caveman! Your pic looks like one too haahhaha
(07-13-2010, 07:18 PM)rdirtycar hope you don't mind Captian I reposted your link on this thread:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/home-made-oil-separator-for-california-617-turbo-t-12.html
some good thread
Hey yeah no Prob! I'm gonna go read that beehotch right meow!
Dirty, I added another link I just found a couple days ago to the oil separator thread.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - willbhere4u - 07-14-2010
Did you just say meow? What do I look like a cat jumping all mimby bimbly like from tree to tree drinking milk from a saucer?
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-15-2010
(07-13-2010, 11:13 PM)Captain America(07-13-2010, 05:59 PM)rdirtycar(07-13-2010, 05:52 PM)Captain America I want 42's oil catch! http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/catchcans.html
buy me that
I heard the MANN pro-vent 200 works too
Lol, easy there caveman! Your pic looks like one too haahhaha
(07-13-2010, 07:18 PM)rdirtycar hope you don't mind Captian I reposted your link on this thread:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/home-made-oil-separator-for-california-617-turbo-t-12.html
some good thread
Hey yeah no Prob! I'm gonna go read that beehotch right meow!
Dirty, I added another link I just found a couple days ago to the oil separator thread.
Someone said my avatar is from "Running Man". It's sooooo nice to see tuning companies specializing in 617 parts. It probably took me more than an hour to grind and drill out a block off plate for my EGR in my wood shop, and it still looks like it was made in a wood shop.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - ForcedInduction - 07-15-2010
How can somebody confuse movies like Flash Gordon and Running Man?
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 07-15-2010
Yeah meow throws people for a loop everytime haha
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - winmutt - 07-16-2010
One good thing about using the electronic sender setup is an idiot light. I wouldnt mind someone getting this working. I think there was a thread on peach part a while ago.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - ForcedInduction - 07-16-2010
An electric sender is a variable resistor. You'd need a separate pressure switch to trip a light.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 07-16-2010
Yeah there was a thread... Basically it used the sender from a older chev SBC
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-16-2010
On my Vanagon I had a VDO oil pressure sender with two posts, one for the gauge, the other for a warning light AND a buzzer. According to me, it's not an idiot light if there's a gauge too, it's a warning light. The buzzer can get annoying under certain circumstances, like under hood maintenance.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - ForcedInduction - 07-16-2010
(07-16-2010, 11:30 AM)rdirtycar The buzzer can get annoying under certain circumstances, like under hood maintenance.
You should tap the alternator light system (field coil), that way the buzzer only operates if the engine is running.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-16-2010
(07-16-2010, 02:36 PM)ForcedInduction(07-16-2010, 11:30 AM)rdirtycar The buzzer can get annoying under certain circumstances, like under hood maintenance.
You should tap the alternator light system (field coil), that way the buzzer only operates if the engine is running.
That's a very good idea. I didn't know that I could do that. A low oil buzzer is a good idea because of all the exterior oil lines.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 07-16-2010
Yeah those lines are ridiculous in the fact that they seem to just fail and leave you with a smoked motor... I would rather just a red light that lights up on the dash myself, like a red LED. It wouldn't use any power, wouldn't buzz at you but be bright enough to notice if something fails
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 07-17-2010
I had the horn wired to the oil pressure sender for about five minutes before I used a buzzer behind the dash. Figured it would warn me if the car was idling outside. A little more complicated circuitry would allow that. I leave the Benz idling outside for 10-15 minutes at a time. That'd be nice.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - 85-300Dt - 07-17-2010
oil pressure warning stuff
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RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - winmutt - 07-19-2010
Thanks!
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 08-01-2010
Is there a simple way to attach an electric pressure sender to this engine? The outlet to the gauge is a strange untapered thread. Has anyone installed an electric oil pressure sender on a 617?
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 08-05-2010
Definitely need pics of those parts and the new setup!
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 08-06-2010
I sure will. It's been mostly cleaning and dismantling so far. I took a week off from work to get this done quickly. My tooth brush is on the sink outside the garage. I haven't shaved for the longest time in years. Expect a full report when I finally get to sit at the computer.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 08-06-2010
(08-06-2010, 09:12 PM)rdirtycar I sure will. It's been mostly cleaning and dismantling so far. I took a week off from work to get this done quickly. My tooth brush is on the sink outside the garage. I haven't shaved for the longest time in years. Expect a full report when I finally get to sit at the computer.
So basically you look like the guy in your picture?
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 08-08-2010
That's my dad.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 08-08-2010
oh haha
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 08-17-2010
(08-05-2010, 07:41 AM)rdirtycar Stewart Warner part number 7011546 converts the oil filter housing to M-10. Then there is another adapter from M-10 to the NPT for 42draftdesign.com oil sender relocation kit hose to the kit's manifold that holds a 150psi sender with M-10 threads. That's how I'm doing it.Before anyone goes and tries the Stewart Warner gauge adapter, let me try an idea I have with a 12x1.5mm banjo connection and some tubing running to a tee that for now can hold my sender and some day connect to a bypass oil filter. There is just no sealing surface on the little adapter. There is no shoulder for a crush washer and the threads are not tapered at all.
Electric oil pressure gauge where the sun visor was.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 08-17-2010
I wanna run a bypass filter too
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - rdirtycar - 08-20-2010
12mm 1.5 banjo works great. I'm running AN fittings from the stock location. The worst part is going to be finding a place to mount gauges and keep a somewhat stock looking interior.
RE: leaky oil pressure gauge - Captain America - 08-20-2010
Pictures of everything!