(12-03-2012, 08:57 PM)Greazzer I know folks are going to scream bloody murder, but have you thought about giving it the tiniest shot of something flammable. Not ether, but something not as "explosive". That might give it its boost. Caution however with this suggestion. Folks claim one super tiny blast will destroy an engine. I have never seen that, so who knows.

(12-03-2012, 09:19 PM)larsalan so will it not start at all? Or just runs shitty?

do you have a block heater?
do you have a lot of battery on it?

I have a easier time starting with the block heated and if I hook up 2 of the 12v batteries to the starter.
Gets a lot better cranking speed then
I would pass on the ether.

(12-03-2012, 09:27 PM)Greazzer I would try to remove the steel lines (one assembly) and boil them in an old steel pot then blast them with compressed air. Real heat is the only thing that really gets rid of rubberized grease. Gas works too if you soak it long enough. I would set up a temporary tank out of an old juice bottle, 64 ouncer up front so you know your source of fuel. I would try to clean every aspect of the fueling system. I know it's a PITA, but once you get fuel, and you got compression, you should be up and running. I have burned a ton of grease in the past 4 years and I know that crap turns into the world's strongest rubber like goo and it really clings like death to parts if not properly burned and handled.

I have used generic carb cleaner. It's not super volitle but its flammable. I am talking about a micro squirt.

I am not proud to admit it, but I used to own a 1984 Chevy Chevette with a Isuzu Diesel Engine. I used ether every day when I lived up north for years and never an issue. That car got over 200K miles before the old girl just died one day in the summer so I doubt it had anything to do with the ether. BUT, as I suggest, be cautious. People claim that one tiny tiny squirt and all 5 rods will shoot out the block ...

(12-03-2012, 09:52 PM)Simpler=Better NEVER let an engine ingest brake cleaner-the chlorine will kill it. I don't care if it's labeled as chorline free just don't do it.

WD40 is a "safe alternative to ether"

Sounds like the IP is gunked up-can you try running it on lubrimoly diesel purge cleaner stuff from a jar instead of diesel? That should also let it start easier

Heading the engine before starting (torpedo heater does the job real well) will make it spin over 500x

Glad to hear where you've started, those are all very educated places to look.

Have you replaced the spin-on fuel filter?

(12-03-2012, 08:57 PM)Greazzer If the PO ran junky grease and didn't run WVO correctly, you might have that crap causing a stoppage or a problem somewhere. WVO's chemistry is unique and that stuff can rubberize into some of the toughest stuff to get rid of. Personally, I love burning WVO but you will see folks come out of the woodwork to point out that's bad. So ...

I know folks are going to scream bloody murder, but have you thought about giving it the tiniest shot of something flammable. Not ether, but something not as "explosive". That might give it its boost. Caution however with this suggestion. Folks claim one super tiny blast will destroy an engine. I have never seen that, so who knows.

(12-04-2012, 01:42 AM)Captain America The only bad thing I have heard about ether/starting fluid is when someone dumps a bunch in the intake (like they might do on a gas engine) and then it runs away and blows up. Other than that you're fine. Just use in moderation. I never had luck getting it all the way through the turbo to help start a OM617... just never helped.

(12-04-2012, 05:06 PM)Volker407 Did you check the overflow valve on the pump?

Gruß
Volker

(12-05-2012, 03:07 AM)Volker407 The overflow valve on the pump keeps the inside of the pump under feed pressure of ~1,2bar. If it doesn´t work correct the feed pressure is too low and you might have starting issues because the elements do not get filled properly.
Cylinder #1 is the last in the feed line so if you have less fuel there that would fit to a bad overflow valve scenario in theory.


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Volker

(12-05-2012, 07:52 AM)MFSuper90 Hopefully you have the type that you can take apart and stretch the spring so you can get some more pressure in the ol girl

(12-05-2012, 10:04 PM)larsalan there are 3 nut/bolt things by the front of the IP/block and 1 bitch of a nut at the back of the IP by the oil filter housing.
Hopefully the one by the oil filter is not even there, then you're in luck. All are 13mm and you maybe need some sockets, extensions, shorty open ends.

I guess you're supposed to turn the crank to that 24 BTDC. There are marks on the balancer. Then also look at the cam lobes on the front most cylinder. Look to see that they are pointy side generally upward. Cause I guess the cam turns 2 times for every 1 time the crank turns.

Anyway this is all to try and make sure the pump comes off in its designated removal/replacement position.
You do not have to take the oil filter housing off provided you can get all the 4 bolt/nuts off. 3 in front 1 in back.
Just kinda jostle and pull back and tilt the rear of the IP upward and you can get it in/out with relative ease.

Did you try and get a big 12v jump? Heat up the block? ether?
That IP must be out of time if all that stuff won't do it.

(12-12-2012, 08:14 AM)larsalan yeah sounds like no fuel, right. Did you say you cracked open the injector lines? Any fuel there while you turn it over?

(12-12-2012, 08:33 AM)larsalan I never heard of such an idea to put a torch on the IP. I would prolly skip that too. I can't foresee much chance of success.

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hmm, I dunno. Sounds good that it fired at all.
and it's running off a jug, not the tank, so that's all clear.
and fuel is pumping back into the jug over the return line?
I push no fuel pedal while cranking. And even when the motor begins to fire I hold on cranking till such time that the motor can start to out speed the starter.
Can hold on the cranking of the starter for I would say maybe not exceeding 45seconds. Try not to burn up the starter
How long did you hear it to try and start? Any good smoke coming out?