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ForcedInduction
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10-21-2010, 06:44 PM #101
(10-21-2010, 05:27 PM)Biohazard It still starts to run out of air (stock turbo) at higher rpm's

Time to find a 50 or 55 trim wheel from a 603.
ForcedInduction
10-21-2010, 06:44 PM #101

(10-21-2010, 05:27 PM)Biohazard It still starts to run out of air (stock turbo) at higher rpm's

Time to find a 50 or 55 trim wheel from a 603.

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-21-2010, 07:10 PM #102
I got a 60 trim wheel at 13-15lbs and at high rpm the thing goes super sonic and sounds like its over revving... but maybe its not? That's just what they do? How would you know? Bio, how do you know you're running out of air? Does boost start to fall off?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-21-2010, 07:10 PM #102

I got a 60 trim wheel at 13-15lbs and at high rpm the thing goes super sonic and sounds like its over revving... but maybe its not? That's just what they do? How would you know? Bio, how do you know you're running out of air? Does boost start to fall off?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
10-21-2010, 07:36 PM #103
(10-21-2010, 07:10 PM)Captain America I got a 60 trim wheel at 13-15lbs and at high rpm the thing goes super sonic and sounds like its over revving... but maybe its not? That's just what they do? How would you know? Bio, how do you know you're running out of air? Does boost start to fall off?

I'd love to find a 55 or 60 trim. Seems like everyone wants an arm and a leg for a used turbo though. Capt, where did you get your 60 trim upgrade? With the stock turbo, the boost starts falling off at higher rpm and it starts blowing a haze of black smoke. That was with the stock injection pump settings even. I had boost set at 14psi, by redline it was down to 12ish psi. My dads car has the Garrett/AiResearch turbo on it. I could use that for the upgrade, just swap him turbos. I know my KKK turbo will make some cool noises at higher rpm's, but I'm not sure if its the same noise as yours?

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
10-21-2010, 07:36 PM #103

(10-21-2010, 07:10 PM)Captain America I got a 60 trim wheel at 13-15lbs and at high rpm the thing goes super sonic and sounds like its over revving... but maybe its not? That's just what they do? How would you know? Bio, how do you know you're running out of air? Does boost start to fall off?

I'd love to find a 55 or 60 trim. Seems like everyone wants an arm and a leg for a used turbo though. Capt, where did you get your 60 trim upgrade? With the stock turbo, the boost starts falling off at higher rpm and it starts blowing a haze of black smoke. That was with the stock injection pump settings even. I had boost set at 14psi, by redline it was down to 12ish psi. My dads car has the Garrett/AiResearch turbo on it. I could use that for the upgrade, just swap him turbos. I know my KKK turbo will make some cool noises at higher rpm's, but I'm not sure if its the same noise as yours?


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
10-21-2010, 07:50 PM #104
Ahh, you have the KKK. I have the Garrett. When I had the Garrett rebuilt I the shop that did it for me remachined the compressor housing for the larger compressor wheel. I needed a new turbine shaft anyway so the upgrade was only an additional. $50 bucks. The shop is called Performance Techniques down here in So Cal. Www.turbocharged.com they are a cool small shop, James knew what I was holding as soon as I walked in, "Mercedes Turbo?" Haha. My motor will never run out of air but the sound is crazy. The whistle gets higher with rpm until a point and it flattens out then gets quiet.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
10-21-2010, 07:50 PM #104

Ahh, you have the KKK. I have the Garrett. When I had the Garrett rebuilt I the shop that did it for me remachined the compressor housing for the larger compressor wheel. I needed a new turbine shaft anyway so the upgrade was only an additional. $50 bucks. The shop is called Performance Techniques down here in So Cal. Www.turbocharged.com they are a cool small shop, James knew what I was holding as soon as I walked in, "Mercedes Turbo?" Haha. My motor will never run out of air but the sound is crazy. The whistle gets higher with rpm until a point and it flattens out then gets quiet.



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
10-21-2010, 08:06 PM #105
Thanks Capt. I'm not sure if the Garrett is ready for a rebuild. If I'm going to spend that money, it's going to be for rebuilding the GT2256V on my toolbox. Smile

With my stock turbo, it will start whistling as boost builds up, then I don't hear it much after I get into some RPM's. Thanks for the link on the turbo shop. I may have to get in touch with them for fixing the GT2256V. It's also going to need a turbine shaft. Didn't have much play, but most of the turbine blades are broken on the edges from something going through the turbo. The compressor wheel looks good at least!
This post was last modified: 10-21-2010, 08:07 PM by Biohazard.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
10-21-2010, 08:06 PM #105

Thanks Capt. I'm not sure if the Garrett is ready for a rebuild. If I'm going to spend that money, it's going to be for rebuilding the GT2256V on my toolbox. Smile

With my stock turbo, it will start whistling as boost builds up, then I don't hear it much after I get into some RPM's. Thanks for the link on the turbo shop. I may have to get in touch with them for fixing the GT2256V. It's also going to need a turbine shaft. Didn't have much play, but most of the turbine blades are broken on the edges from something going through the turbo. The compressor wheel looks good at least!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
12-15-2010, 11:11 PM #106
Biohazard your car is on speedhunters.com 1/2 down this page!

http://speedhunters.com/archive/tags/Hau...fault.aspx

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-15-2010, 11:11 PM #106

Biohazard your car is on speedhunters.com 1/2 down this page!

http://speedhunters.com/archive/tags/Hau...fault.aspx


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

George3soccer
Holset

373
12-16-2010, 02:25 AM #107
Looks good congrats.

Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-16-2010, 02:25 AM #107

Looks good congrats.


Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
12-16-2010, 09:48 AM #108
Haha! Yeah, I saw it a couple weeks ago or so. The Salt Flats are so fun... I need a vacation again! Smile

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
12-16-2010, 09:48 AM #108

Haha! Yeah, I saw it a couple weeks ago or so. The Salt Flats are so fun... I need a vacation again! Smile


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
12-17-2010, 07:07 PM #109
So awhile back I mentioned a mechanical ALDA to make sure it's getting full fuel at full throttle. I believe it was in Rudolph's skunkworks thread. So here is the first rough rendition of that. It is just a bar that is connected via a cable to the throttle arm on the inj pump.

[attachment=3944]

As the throttle is opened, the back of the throttle lever raises up and allows the arm to release tension on the rod that goes into the pump. I don't have any fuel milage comparisons because I'm now running shorter snow tires, plus my car has to idle for about forever to get warmed up before I'm driving it (side effect of low compression and copper headgasket). But, the milage doesn't seem to be much lower than it was last winter. It does however SEEM like it has better power, probably because it is dumping in more fuel at part throttle than before.
I'm also working on a VGT settup with full electronic control of the vanes. Part of the idea of the alda setup I have now is to seperate the boost and fueling to two seperate functions; i.e. not having additional fuel from additional boost. This way I can hopefully control the air/fuel ratio better via boost/air flow through the engine. Hopefully. We'll see. Wink I'll keep y'all updated. Work on the Pumpkin is slow, I'm between houses and living out of a suitcase waiting for a house deal to go through. Tongue Thankfully I have a friend with a room that isn't (wasn't) being used.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
12-17-2010, 07:07 PM #109

So awhile back I mentioned a mechanical ALDA to make sure it's getting full fuel at full throttle. I believe it was in Rudolph's skunkworks thread. So here is the first rough rendition of that. It is just a bar that is connected via a cable to the throttle arm on the inj pump.

[attachment=3944]

As the throttle is opened, the back of the throttle lever raises up and allows the arm to release tension on the rod that goes into the pump. I don't have any fuel milage comparisons because I'm now running shorter snow tires, plus my car has to idle for about forever to get warmed up before I'm driving it (side effect of low compression and copper headgasket). But, the milage doesn't seem to be much lower than it was last winter. It does however SEEM like it has better power, probably because it is dumping in more fuel at part throttle than before.
I'm also working on a VGT settup with full electronic control of the vanes. Part of the idea of the alda setup I have now is to seperate the boost and fueling to two seperate functions; i.e. not having additional fuel from additional boost. This way I can hopefully control the air/fuel ratio better via boost/air flow through the engine. Hopefully. We'll see. Wink I'll keep y'all updated. Work on the Pumpkin is slow, I'm between houses and living out of a suitcase waiting for a house deal to go through. Tongue Thankfully I have a friend with a room that isn't (wasn't) being used.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-18-2010, 06:40 AM #110
Whats the point? All you're doing is making the first 10% of the fuel range take more throttle movement to get, it will have zero effect on fuel mileage.
ForcedInduction
12-18-2010, 06:40 AM #110

Whats the point? All you're doing is making the first 10% of the fuel range take more throttle movement to get, it will have zero effect on fuel mileage.

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
12-20-2010, 09:45 AM #111
(12-18-2010, 06:40 AM)ForcedInduction Whats the point? All you're doing is making the first 10% of the fuel range take more throttle movement to get, it will have zero effect on fuel mileage.


Actually, its putting in more fuel sooner. The rack travel is excactly the same, but now the alda starts lifting (injecting more fuel) as soon as the throttle moves instead of waiting for boost. The point to is it this: I'm going to try to control my turbo vanes referenced to O2 sensor readings. If the factory alda was in place, with more boost comes more fuel, to a certain point of course. I'm trying to make it where I can control boost seperately to maintain 20:1 AFR.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
12-20-2010, 09:45 AM #111

(12-18-2010, 06:40 AM)ForcedInduction Whats the point? All you're doing is making the first 10% of the fuel range take more throttle movement to get, it will have zero effect on fuel mileage.


Actually, its putting in more fuel sooner. The rack travel is excactly the same, but now the alda starts lifting (injecting more fuel) as soon as the throttle moves instead of waiting for boost. The point to is it this: I'm going to try to control my turbo vanes referenced to O2 sensor readings. If the factory alda was in place, with more boost comes more fuel, to a certain point of course. I'm trying to make it where I can control boost seperately to maintain 20:1 AFR.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-20-2010, 10:10 AM #112
(12-20-2010, 09:45 AM)Biohazard The rack travel is excactly the same, but now the alda starts lifting (injecting more fuel) as soon as the throttle moves instead of waiting for boost.
Again, zero effect and identical operation as having no alda at all.

Quote:I'm trying to make it where I can control boost seperately to maintain 20:1 AFR.
A mechanical linkage will not do that.

You should reinstall the alda and use a solenoid valve to modulate boost pressure the alda sees. Since you'll obviously be using electronics to control the turbo, adding that to the programming would be trivial compared to turbo control.
This post was last modified: 12-20-2010, 10:11 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
12-20-2010, 10:10 AM #112

(12-20-2010, 09:45 AM)Biohazard The rack travel is excactly the same, but now the alda starts lifting (injecting more fuel) as soon as the throttle moves instead of waiting for boost.
Again, zero effect and identical operation as having no alda at all.

Quote:I'm trying to make it where I can control boost seperately to maintain 20:1 AFR.
A mechanical linkage will not do that.

You should reinstall the alda and use a solenoid valve to modulate boost pressure the alda sees. Since you'll obviously be using electronics to control the turbo, adding that to the programming would be trivial compared to turbo control.

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
12-20-2010, 10:27 AM #113
Not quite like having no ALDA. With no alda, its all enrichment all the time. With this setup, it ramps up the enrichment based on throttle travel, with full enrichment at about 2/3 throttle. This allows me to turn the enrichment way down at idle and low throttle, which my engine is happier with due to lowered compression ratio.

You say it would be trivial to add a solenoid to modulate boost, but I'm still very new at programming stuff. I'm still having a hard time learning to programing, but am making slooow progress. Smile That may end up being something that gets added in, but for now, this is working fine for my needs.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
12-20-2010, 10:27 AM #113

Not quite like having no ALDA. With no alda, its all enrichment all the time. With this setup, it ramps up the enrichment based on throttle travel, with full enrichment at about 2/3 throttle. This allows me to turn the enrichment way down at idle and low throttle, which my engine is happier with due to lowered compression ratio.

You say it would be trivial to add a solenoid to modulate boost, but I'm still very new at programming stuff. I'm still having a hard time learning to programing, but am making slooow progress. Smile That may end up being something that gets added in, but for now, this is working fine for my needs.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-20-2010, 10:48 AM #114
(12-20-2010, 10:27 AM)Biohazard Not quite like having no ALDA. With no alda, its all enrichment all the time. With this setup, it ramps up the enrichment based on throttle travel, with full enrichment at about 2/3 throttle.
Again, that makes zero difference to performance or fuel economy. You can still mash the throttle and make smoke. An ALDA limits fuel quantity no matter the throttle until boost builds. As said before, all you've done is change the throttle:fuel curve without any connection to boost or A/F ratio.

Quote:This allows me to turn the enrichment way down at idle and low throttle, which my engine is happier with due to lowered compression ratio.
Reducing the idle speed and going easy on the throttle does the exact same thing.
ForcedInduction
12-20-2010, 10:48 AM #114

(12-20-2010, 10:27 AM)Biohazard Not quite like having no ALDA. With no alda, its all enrichment all the time. With this setup, it ramps up the enrichment based on throttle travel, with full enrichment at about 2/3 throttle.
Again, that makes zero difference to performance or fuel economy. You can still mash the throttle and make smoke. An ALDA limits fuel quantity no matter the throttle until boost builds. As said before, all you've done is change the throttle:fuel curve without any connection to boost or A/F ratio.

Quote:This allows me to turn the enrichment way down at idle and low throttle, which my engine is happier with due to lowered compression ratio.
Reducing the idle speed and going easy on the throttle does the exact same thing.

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
12-20-2010, 11:15 AM #115
(12-20-2010, 10:48 AM)ForcedInduction [quote='Biohazard' pid='22115' dateline='1292858862']
Not quite like having no ALDA. With no alda, its all enrichment all the time. With this setup, it ramps up the enrichment based on throttle travel, with full enrichment at about 2/3 throttle.
"Again, that makes zero difference to performance or fuel economy. You can still mash the throttle and make smoke. An ALDA limits fuel quantity no matter the throttle until boost builds. As said before, all you've done is change the throttle:fuel curve without any connection to boost or A/F ratio."

Changing the throttle:fuel curve w/o any connection to boost is exactly what I was aiming for. I want 'X' amount of fuel at 'Y'% throttle, then use the electronics to control amount of airflow through the engine to maintain ~20:1 AFR.
As far as fuel economy goes... screw the fuel economy. The car gets decent enough milage. I'm not trying to get to 40mpg, thats not the point of this project. If I gain or lose a mpg or two, I'm not going to lose any sleep about it. Big Grin
This post was last modified: 12-20-2010, 11:15 AM by Biohazard.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
12-20-2010, 11:15 AM #115

(12-20-2010, 10:48 AM)ForcedInduction [quote='Biohazard' pid='22115' dateline='1292858862']
Not quite like having no ALDA. With no alda, its all enrichment all the time. With this setup, it ramps up the enrichment based on throttle travel, with full enrichment at about 2/3 throttle.
"Again, that makes zero difference to performance or fuel economy. You can still mash the throttle and make smoke. An ALDA limits fuel quantity no matter the throttle until boost builds. As said before, all you've done is change the throttle:fuel curve without any connection to boost or A/F ratio."

Changing the throttle:fuel curve w/o any connection to boost is exactly what I was aiming for. I want 'X' amount of fuel at 'Y'% throttle, then use the electronics to control amount of airflow through the engine to maintain ~20:1 AFR.
As far as fuel economy goes... screw the fuel economy. The car gets decent enough milage. I'm not trying to get to 40mpg, thats not the point of this project. If I gain or lose a mpg or two, I'm not going to lose any sleep about it. Big Grin


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-21-2010, 12:15 AM #116
(12-20-2010, 11:15 AM)Biohazard Changing the throttle:fuel curve w/o any connection to boost is exactly what I was aiming for. I want 'X' amount of fuel at 'Y'% throttle, then use the electronics to control amount of airflow through the engine to maintain ~20:1 AFR.
So...programming for a parabolic curve is easier than programming for a linear pitch curve? Huh

Quote:As far as fuel economy goes... screw the fuel economy. The car gets decent enough milage.
My 300D gets middle of the road average economy for these cars despite the injection pump having no provision for an ALDA.
This post was last modified: 12-21-2010, 12:20 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
12-21-2010, 12:15 AM #116

(12-20-2010, 11:15 AM)Biohazard Changing the throttle:fuel curve w/o any connection to boost is exactly what I was aiming for. I want 'X' amount of fuel at 'Y'% throttle, then use the electronics to control amount of airflow through the engine to maintain ~20:1 AFR.
So...programming for a parabolic curve is easier than programming for a linear pitch curve? Huh

Quote:As far as fuel economy goes... screw the fuel economy. The car gets decent enough milage.
My 300D gets middle of the road average economy for these cars despite the injection pump having no provision for an ALDA.

300D50
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775
12-21-2010, 12:18 AM #117
Go full hog, use an electric pump! Big Grin

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
12-21-2010, 12:18 AM #117

Go full hog, use an electric pump! Big Grin


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
04-05-2011, 10:03 AM #118
So work on the car has been lacking recently. I'm still waiting on a house deal to close so I can have a garage again. But, in the meantime, I had a set of header flanges made! My Dad and I are building a header to mount the VNT turbo on his W123. Could've probably just made an adapter plate, but naaahhh!! This is way more fun! Tongue

Here is the backside. We had to trim the lower left corner in the picture to clear the timing chain tensioner mount, but other than that it fits perfectly. Once the pipes are welded in, I'll add in a piece of plate to seperate the paired exhaust ports.

[attachment=4317]

Here is the front side with the SCH40 90 degree bends tacked into place.

[attachment=4318]

So thats it for the turbo header for now. My Dad is going to work on it more this week and then more welding this weekend hopefully.

So my brother, C12H23, sold the 300D and picked up a 83 240D 4 speed in its place. The car is all and all in really clean shape. He swapped over the non-egr intake off my 77 240D project car and got some tune-up stuff done. The car is a bit slow though... So while I was rumaging through a junk yard, I found chevy small block header. Hmmm... a little measuring later and it came home with me. The exhaust pattern is pretty close to the 240D pattern.

[attachment=4319]

We're going to cut off the chevy flange, add about 5-6 inches of straight to space it off the starter and all that and see about mounting this bad boy to his 240D! Big Grin Wont be a ton of power, but so what! He'll have a cool looking header at least!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
04-05-2011, 10:03 AM #118

So work on the car has been lacking recently. I'm still waiting on a house deal to close so I can have a garage again. But, in the meantime, I had a set of header flanges made! My Dad and I are building a header to mount the VNT turbo on his W123. Could've probably just made an adapter plate, but naaahhh!! This is way more fun! Tongue

Here is the backside. We had to trim the lower left corner in the picture to clear the timing chain tensioner mount, but other than that it fits perfectly. Once the pipes are welded in, I'll add in a piece of plate to seperate the paired exhaust ports.

[attachment=4317]

Here is the front side with the SCH40 90 degree bends tacked into place.

[attachment=4318]

So thats it for the turbo header for now. My Dad is going to work on it more this week and then more welding this weekend hopefully.

So my brother, C12H23, sold the 300D and picked up a 83 240D 4 speed in its place. The car is all and all in really clean shape. He swapped over the non-egr intake off my 77 240D project car and got some tune-up stuff done. The car is a bit slow though... So while I was rumaging through a junk yard, I found chevy small block header. Hmmm... a little measuring later and it came home with me. The exhaust pattern is pretty close to the 240D pattern.

[attachment=4319]

We're going to cut off the chevy flange, add about 5-6 inches of straight to space it off the starter and all that and see about mounting this bad boy to his 240D! Big Grin Wont be a ton of power, but so what! He'll have a cool looking header at least!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
04-05-2011, 03:35 PM #119
Haha that's crazy how the header fits!!!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
04-05-2011, 03:35 PM #119

Haha that's crazy how the header fits!!!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
04-26-2011, 10:15 AM #120
Here is some more progress on the turbo header. I hope the picture turns out ok, I had to resize it twice.

[attachment=4464]

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
04-26-2011, 10:15 AM #120

Here is some more progress on the turbo header. I hope the picture turns out ok, I had to resize it twice.

[attachment=4464]


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
04-26-2011, 10:21 AM #121
With a header like that Its asking for a supercharger!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-26-2011, 10:21 AM #121

With a header like that Its asking for a supercharger!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
04-26-2011, 11:14 AM #122
I might be able to part with an M90 in good shape...

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
04-26-2011, 11:14 AM #122

I might be able to part with an M90 in good shape...


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
04-26-2011, 03:56 PM #123
You should come down to Portland on Saturday.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
04-26-2011, 03:56 PM #123

You should come down to Portland on Saturday.


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
04-27-2011, 09:17 AM #124
I want to, but I have a bunch of other stuff I need to get done. I only have Saturday off this week, and too much on the to-do list, otherwise, I'd be there for sure!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
04-27-2011, 09:17 AM #124

I want to, but I have a bunch of other stuff I need to get done. I only have Saturday off this week, and too much on the to-do list, otherwise, I'd be there for sure!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
05-15-2011, 11:22 PM #125
So I got the Uber 7.5 M-Pump from Rudlolf and got it on a couple days ago, but it didn't feel 'right'. Rechecked my timing tonight and turns out it was retarded by about 8 degrees! Blush So, I pulled the pump again tonight and reset it to stock 24 BTDC. It feels better, but not quite 'right' yet. More tinkering to come! It also nails like a champ, but it did that with the timing way retarded also. ??? Could be my low compression, but not 100% convinced yet. Think I'm gonna advance it another 2 degrees and see how it does.

So it was dark when I was driving around after reseting the timing and I had to merge on the highway and, you know, test the settings. Holy crap! 25psi right NOW and I couldn't see the headlights behind me anymore!! Bwahahaha!!! Holy crap this is going to be fun when I get the timing perfected! More updates as I get time! Cool

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
05-15-2011, 11:22 PM #125

So I got the Uber 7.5 M-Pump from Rudlolf and got it on a couple days ago, but it didn't feel 'right'. Rechecked my timing tonight and turns out it was retarded by about 8 degrees! Blush So, I pulled the pump again tonight and reset it to stock 24 BTDC. It feels better, but not quite 'right' yet. More tinkering to come! It also nails like a champ, but it did that with the timing way retarded also. ??? Could be my low compression, but not 100% convinced yet. Think I'm gonna advance it another 2 degrees and see how it does.

So it was dark when I was driving around after reseting the timing and I had to merge on the highway and, you know, test the settings. Holy crap! 25psi right NOW and I couldn't see the headlights behind me anymore!! Bwahahaha!!! Holy crap this is going to be fun when I get the timing perfected! More updates as I get time! Cool


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
05-16-2011, 12:51 AM #126
Sweet man. I was at his house right after he shipped that thing to you. How are you timing it, What method? I'd go 26 for sure, and if drip timing maybe even more like 28...


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
05-16-2011, 12:51 AM #126

Sweet man. I was at his house right after he shipped that thing to you. How are you timing it, What method? I'd go 26 for sure, and if drip timing maybe even more like 28...



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
05-16-2011, 08:52 AM #127
Drip method. Yeah, I need to try 26 and see how that feels. Oh, also going to be doing the glow plug relay mod. I've found it is much quieter warming up at idle if I keep cycling the key making the glow plugs stay on!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
05-16-2011, 08:52 AM #127

Drip method. Yeah, I need to try 26 and see how that feels. Oh, also going to be doing the glow plug relay mod. I've found it is much quieter warming up at idle if I keep cycling the key making the glow plugs stay on!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
05-16-2011, 02:00 PM #128
Ahhh, Yeah I read that you could go a couple degrees further advanced when timing by drip method because it wasn't as accurate. You dont get perfect start of injection or some BS... Lol I don't remember exactly.

You going for after glow or just rewiring so the GP light stays on whenever the relay is on?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
05-16-2011, 02:00 PM #128

Ahhh, Yeah I read that you could go a couple degrees further advanced when timing by drip method because it wasn't as accurate. You dont get perfect start of injection or some BS... Lol I don't remember exactly.

You going for after glow or just rewiring so the GP light stays on whenever the relay is on?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
05-16-2011, 02:00 PM #129
bad ass Videos please!
This post was last modified: 05-16-2011, 02:00 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-16-2011, 02:00 PM #129

bad ass Videos please!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
05-16-2011, 02:01 PM #130
(05-16-2011, 02:00 PM)willbhere4u bad ass Videos please!

Wow we must have missed each other by seconds!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
05-16-2011, 02:01 PM #130

(05-16-2011, 02:00 PM)willbhere4u bad ass Videos please!

Wow we must have missed each other by seconds!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
05-16-2011, 07:10 PM #131
^^^ LOL

I don't have daylight time off again until Wed (aka working dark to dark), I'll take some video though if I can! Rewiring for both the glowplug light on whenever the glowplugs are on, and also full control of glowplugs being on.
This post was last modified: 05-16-2011, 07:11 PM by Biohazard.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
05-16-2011, 07:10 PM #131

^^^ LOL

I don't have daylight time off again until Wed (aka working dark to dark), I'll take some video though if I can! Rewiring for both the glowplug light on whenever the glowplugs are on, and also full control of glowplugs being on.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
05-20-2011, 09:39 AM #132
Turns out I don't have good video taking quality yet. I'll have to work on that. I spent Wednesday morning modding my glow plug relay. Now the glow plug light is on whenever the glowplugs are on. I rarely use my rear window defroster, even in the dead of winter. So, I used the rear window defroster and relay (built in timer!) to activate the glowplugs. Also gives me a secondary light for showing glowplugs on. With the car cold and warming up, it is much quieter with the glowplugs staying on and seems to warm up just a bit quicker.

After messing with trying to get the drip timing set accurately, I got fed up. There is too much room for error in my opinion. So I got one of these...

[attachment=4626]

and verified timing on my dads car. It is a 300D with a stock turbo engine. Using this adaptor and my timing light, his timing came in at 13.5 BTDC. I was able to check his timing, and reset my timing to 15 BTDC in about 15-20 minutes total! Big Grin Using the drip method, I was still off by about 8 degrees on my car. I drove the car home and back from my dads house (40 miles +/-) after resetting to 15 BTDC. Had good power, but still some decent nailing, so I moved it to 14 BTDC last night. Didn't notice much difference on the nailing, so I think I'm going to leave it there for a while.

Next up on the list of things to do is boost control. I don't have any and need some badly. I can hit 25psi if I don't modulate the throttle correctly. But thats no good because I get flutter/surge at about 20 psi! Sad So, back to the hardware store to make a boost controler. Hopefully that will be my lunch break mission! Tongue

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
05-20-2011, 09:39 AM #132

Turns out I don't have good video taking quality yet. I'll have to work on that. I spent Wednesday morning modding my glow plug relay. Now the glow plug light is on whenever the glowplugs are on. I rarely use my rear window defroster, even in the dead of winter. So, I used the rear window defroster and relay (built in timer!) to activate the glowplugs. Also gives me a secondary light for showing glowplugs on. With the car cold and warming up, it is much quieter with the glowplugs staying on and seems to warm up just a bit quicker.

After messing with trying to get the drip timing set accurately, I got fed up. There is too much room for error in my opinion. So I got one of these...

[attachment=4626]

and verified timing on my dads car. It is a 300D with a stock turbo engine. Using this adaptor and my timing light, his timing came in at 13.5 BTDC. I was able to check his timing, and reset my timing to 15 BTDC in about 15-20 minutes total! Big Grin Using the drip method, I was still off by about 8 degrees on my car. I drove the car home and back from my dads house (40 miles +/-) after resetting to 15 BTDC. Had good power, but still some decent nailing, so I moved it to 14 BTDC last night. Didn't notice much difference on the nailing, so I think I'm going to leave it there for a while.

Next up on the list of things to do is boost control. I don't have any and need some badly. I can hit 25psi if I don't modulate the throttle correctly. But thats no good because I get flutter/surge at about 20 psi! Sad So, back to the hardware store to make a boost controler. Hopefully that will be my lunch break mission! Tongue


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
05-20-2011, 01:07 PM #133
Whoa Whoa! Can you explain the Glow plug/window defrost mod? That's a great idea! I'd probly use a little toggle to select between defrost and GP operation.

Got a link to that tool? Why is the timing so low on both cars? Am I missing something?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
05-20-2011, 01:07 PM #133

Whoa Whoa! Can you explain the Glow plug/window defrost mod? That's a great idea! I'd probly use a little toggle to select between defrost and GP operation.

Got a link to that tool? Why is the timing so low on both cars? Am I missing something?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
05-20-2011, 06:20 PM #134
I used the glow plug mod that So&So had put up a while back, it's still floating around somewhere. I just spliced the 2.5mm solid black wire (Wire strand size, roughly 14AWG? There is also a Black/Red large wire that is power feed into the relay.) coming from the rear defrost relay/timer in the fuse box to the violet wire that goes into the glow plug relay 4 pin connector. My rear window defrost never worked worth a crap, so I'm not worried about it not working. I could have skipped the glow plug light mod that you did on yours also. I really didn't need to do that one, the rear defrost light stays on anytime the glowplugs are on now too. I'm really not a big fan of aftermarket toggle switches being tacked onto my dash (even though there are currently two there...) so I decided to use one of my unused factory switches. It was just very convenient having the built in timer on the defrost relay. Now I can't accidently leave my glow plugs on for too long. Big Grin

For the timing being way different, that is from the way it reads the timing. The drip timing slows to once a second when the fill port is just closing at the begining of the injection cycle, about 24 deg BTDC. The timing light adapter picks up the pulse of fuel going through the line and sends the signal to fire the timing light as the fuel is passing the clamp. It works out to about 10 crank degrees difference.

If you google 'Ferret 765 diesel timing adapter' you will find a bunch of info on it. I got mine here:

http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDispla...FERV765-03

and the 6.0mm clamp it comes with is the one you want. You are supposed to verify mechanical timing to get a baseline before using the timing light. I have NOT drip timed my dads car, but I do know it is bone stock, starts like a champ and runs great all the time. I also did a bit of research, and found others that have used this on a mercedes 300SD. They had the same timing using the timing light adaptor that my dads car has using the adaptor.

Edit: added better wiring description.
This post was last modified: 05-21-2011, 09:59 AM by Biohazard.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
05-20-2011, 06:20 PM #134

I used the glow plug mod that So&So had put up a while back, it's still floating around somewhere. I just spliced the 2.5mm solid black wire (Wire strand size, roughly 14AWG? There is also a Black/Red large wire that is power feed into the relay.) coming from the rear defrost relay/timer in the fuse box to the violet wire that goes into the glow plug relay 4 pin connector. My rear window defrost never worked worth a crap, so I'm not worried about it not working. I could have skipped the glow plug light mod that you did on yours also. I really didn't need to do that one, the rear defrost light stays on anytime the glowplugs are on now too. I'm really not a big fan of aftermarket toggle switches being tacked onto my dash (even though there are currently two there...) so I decided to use one of my unused factory switches. It was just very convenient having the built in timer on the defrost relay. Now I can't accidently leave my glow plugs on for too long. Big Grin

For the timing being way different, that is from the way it reads the timing. The drip timing slows to once a second when the fill port is just closing at the begining of the injection cycle, about 24 deg BTDC. The timing light adapter picks up the pulse of fuel going through the line and sends the signal to fire the timing light as the fuel is passing the clamp. It works out to about 10 crank degrees difference.

If you google 'Ferret 765 diesel timing adapter' you will find a bunch of info on it. I got mine here:

http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDispla...FERV765-03

and the 6.0mm clamp it comes with is the one you want. You are supposed to verify mechanical timing to get a baseline before using the timing light. I have NOT drip timed my dads car, but I do know it is bone stock, starts like a champ and runs great all the time. I also did a bit of research, and found others that have used this on a mercedes 300SD. They had the same timing using the timing light adaptor that my dads car has using the adaptor.

Edit: added better wiring description.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
05-21-2011, 11:19 PM #135
Gotcha!

I dont have the switches on the dash..... I put my toggles in the side of the center counsel, they are right next to my leg, easy to get to, and out of sight (no clutter on dash) plus there is tons of room under the window switches for all the wiring and such...


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
05-21-2011, 11:19 PM #135

Gotcha!

I dont have the switches on the dash..... I put my toggles in the side of the center counsel, they are right next to my leg, easy to get to, and out of sight (no clutter on dash) plus there is tons of room under the window switches for all the wiring and such...



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
06-21-2011, 06:18 PM #136
Timing seems to be set pretty happy right now. It's advanced about 1 degree from stock. I've sent my spare Garrett turbo off for the rebuilding and installing the 60 trim wheel! REAALLLY looking forward to getting that back! The T3/TO4E is just too big. It's laggy on the 617 and the compressor is just too big to flow correctly for this engine. Also, my water pump (for the intercooler) took a crap and leaked out all my IC coolant. So, I'm going to redo the system and add in more volume, along with a Bosch pump for a Mustang Cobra. All said, I hope to have just under 3 gallons of capacity for the intercooler system.
When I swapped on the M Pump, I lengthened the stock oiling line to fit to the side of the MW pump. Well, that line blew at 60mph on the highway during my lunch break a couple weeks ago. Thankfully I caught it in time, and only lost about 2-3 qts. I've now had a braided steel line made that wont pop like the thick rubber hose did. Now, I am considering making braided line for the fuel lines from the lift pump to the injection pump so that they match! That one line looks really good! Now the other lines look like crap. Sad Once I get unpacked, I gotta look for my braided line stuff and see what I have.
I'm still looking for some thinner sealing rings for the prechambers, I started a new thread on that one in General Maint. If you have some ideas, I'm all ears! Big Grin
I'll report back more later. I'm finally getting moved into my new house and will be making more steady progress on project cars. I can't wait to get that 240D on the road with a hot 617 in it!!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
06-21-2011, 06:18 PM #136

Timing seems to be set pretty happy right now. It's advanced about 1 degree from stock. I've sent my spare Garrett turbo off for the rebuilding and installing the 60 trim wheel! REAALLLY looking forward to getting that back! The T3/TO4E is just too big. It's laggy on the 617 and the compressor is just too big to flow correctly for this engine. Also, my water pump (for the intercooler) took a crap and leaked out all my IC coolant. So, I'm going to redo the system and add in more volume, along with a Bosch pump for a Mustang Cobra. All said, I hope to have just under 3 gallons of capacity for the intercooler system.
When I swapped on the M Pump, I lengthened the stock oiling line to fit to the side of the MW pump. Well, that line blew at 60mph on the highway during my lunch break a couple weeks ago. Thankfully I caught it in time, and only lost about 2-3 qts. I've now had a braided steel line made that wont pop like the thick rubber hose did. Now, I am considering making braided line for the fuel lines from the lift pump to the injection pump so that they match! That one line looks really good! Now the other lines look like crap. Sad Once I get unpacked, I gotta look for my braided line stuff and see what I have.
I'm still looking for some thinner sealing rings for the prechambers, I started a new thread on that one in General Maint. If you have some ideas, I'm all ears! Big Grin
I'll report back more later. I'm finally getting moved into my new house and will be making more steady progress on project cars. I can't wait to get that 240D on the road with a hot 617 in it!!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
07-22-2011, 12:17 AM #137
New updates. Got the 60 trim T3 back and installed. Got a manual boost controller hooked up. Still messing with the boost settings, currently at about 20 psi. This turbo makes great noises! Finally getting my intercooler back together. Got it replumbed tonight, should hold about two gallons. That's one gallon less than I wanted, but then again this car is for r&d. Tongue Need to finish wiring in the pump and then fillerup! Going to give it a good hard drive over the pass and see how it holds up. Also going to recheck the timing using the air bubble method that Hercules mentioned. It worked great on my brothers car, going to see what it says for mine. Still waiting for a couple different boxes of goodies to show up. New prechamber sealing rings and a collar tool. Can't wait to get those put in!
Looking forward to meeting some of you at the Get Together down in Oregon in a couple weeks too!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
07-22-2011, 12:17 AM #137

New updates. Got the 60 trim T3 back and installed. Got a manual boost controller hooked up. Still messing with the boost settings, currently at about 20 psi. This turbo makes great noises! Finally getting my intercooler back together. Got it replumbed tonight, should hold about two gallons. That's one gallon less than I wanted, but then again this car is for r&d. Tongue Need to finish wiring in the pump and then fillerup! Going to give it a good hard drive over the pass and see how it holds up. Also going to recheck the timing using the air bubble method that Hercules mentioned. It worked great on my brothers car, going to see what it says for mine. Still waiting for a couple different boxes of goodies to show up. New prechamber sealing rings and a collar tool. Can't wait to get those put in!
Looking forward to meeting some of you at the Get Together down in Oregon in a couple weeks too!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
07-22-2011, 02:33 AM #138
(07-22-2011, 12:17 AM)Biohazard Looking forward to meeting some of you at the Get Together down in Oregon in a couple weeks too!

Werd Big Grin

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
07-22-2011, 02:33 AM #138

(07-22-2011, 12:17 AM)Biohazard Looking forward to meeting some of you at the Get Together down in Oregon in a couple weeks too!

Werd Big Grin


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
07-22-2011, 03:48 PM #139
It would be very interesting to see if drip timing and bubble timing report a different amount of advance!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
07-22-2011, 03:48 PM #139

It would be very interesting to see if drip timing and bubble timing report a different amount of advance!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
07-22-2011, 04:54 PM #140
That would be interesting. Stupid thing is I cant seem to get a good repeatable reading doing the drip timing. I did the bubble timing on my brothers car on Wed, was super easy. I've been thinking of checking mine again with bubbles and with trying to do the drip timing again.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
07-22-2011, 04:54 PM #140

That would be interesting. Stupid thing is I cant seem to get a good repeatable reading doing the drip timing. I did the bubble timing on my brothers car on Wed, was super easy. I've been thinking of checking mine again with bubbles and with trying to do the drip timing again.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
08-09-2011, 12:06 AM #141
I got the thicker set of sealing rings in that Walt made. They sealed up perfectly the first time, I sprayed them with a thin coat of copper gasket sealer. Also got the intercooler hooked up again, EGT's have stayed below 900f now! Reset the timing to stock also. Still had smoking and nailing that is driving me nuts. I swapped in my Monark 265 injectors again tonight and some of the nailing it gone, smoke too. Once I get back from vacation I'm going to try the thinner set of sealing rings as well. I tried to post pictures, seems they are too big. Il try again later. Overall, still pretty happy with the car! Tongue

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
08-09-2011, 12:06 AM #141

I got the thicker set of sealing rings in that Walt made. They sealed up perfectly the first time, I sprayed them with a thin coat of copper gasket sealer. Also got the intercooler hooked up again, EGT's have stayed below 900f now! Reset the timing to stock also. Still had smoking and nailing that is driving me nuts. I swapped in my Monark 265 injectors again tonight and some of the nailing it gone, smoke too. Once I get back from vacation I'm going to try the thinner set of sealing rings as well. I tried to post pictures, seems they are too big. Il try again later. Overall, still pretty happy with the car! Tongue


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
08-09-2011, 12:59 AM #142
Glad they sealed up!

Will be interesting to see what they look like once removed.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
08-09-2011, 12:59 AM #142

Glad they sealed up!

Will be interesting to see what they look like once removed.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
08-11-2011, 12:24 AM #143
I'll let you know in a month or so. Smile Quick update, smoking is much less now with the 265 nozzles and stock timing, unless I bury my right foot, then its more black smoke than before. Good times!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
08-11-2011, 12:24 AM #143

I'll let you know in a month or so. Smile Quick update, smoking is much less now with the 265 nozzles and stock timing, unless I bury my right foot, then its more black smoke than before. Good times!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
09-06-2011, 05:50 PM #144
I swapped in the 1.15mm sealing rings the other day. The 1.25 rings still looked good so I saved 4 of them. I buggered one of them up pulling it apart. The copper sealing spray works like a champ, just needs a light coat. It doesn't nail as bad as it did, but it IS still nailing. So, I'm going to swap a stock head gasket back in and get rid of the nailing.

The thick headgasket works fine if you're under load, but off load and just getting into throttle there is a large amount of nailing and sounding like something is trying to come apart. If I was building a 617 for racing, or running a supercharger, I would keep the thick headgasket, but for street use, the stock headgaskt seems the way to run.

Thanks for making those sealing rings, Walt!! I'm going to keep the rings I have and my spare copper gasket in case I get a wild hair and decide to build a race 617 or put on a supercharger that makes boost at idle. Big Grin I'll update again when I get the stock headgasket in.

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
09-06-2011, 05:50 PM #144

I swapped in the 1.15mm sealing rings the other day. The 1.25 rings still looked good so I saved 4 of them. I buggered one of them up pulling it apart. The copper sealing spray works like a champ, just needs a light coat. It doesn't nail as bad as it did, but it IS still nailing. So, I'm going to swap a stock head gasket back in and get rid of the nailing.

The thick headgasket works fine if you're under load, but off load and just getting into throttle there is a large amount of nailing and sounding like something is trying to come apart. If I was building a 617 for racing, or running a supercharger, I would keep the thick headgasket, but for street use, the stock headgaskt seems the way to run.

Thanks for making those sealing rings, Walt!! I'm going to keep the rings I have and my spare copper gasket in case I get a wild hair and decide to build a race 617 or put on a supercharger that makes boost at idle. Big Grin I'll update again when I get the stock headgasket in.


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
09-18-2011, 01:54 PM #145
Glad to see your still tinkering.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
09-18-2011, 01:54 PM #145

Glad to see your still tinkering.


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

JustPassinThru
W123 and W124

491
09-18-2011, 02:20 PM #146
Thanks very much for updating us!
This post was last modified: 09-18-2011, 02:21 PM by JustPassinThru.

Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
09-18-2011, 02:20 PM #146

Thanks very much for updating us!


Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-19-2011, 02:30 AM #147
Yes! I was wondering how this thing runs with the super pump....


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-19-2011, 02:30 AM #147

Yes! I was wondering how this thing runs with the super pump....



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
09-21-2011, 11:38 PM #148
Runs petty good! Been stupid busy lately, not much time for anything. Actually it runs strong enough that my trans is slipping when shifting. There WILL be dyno action after swapping this engine into my new donar car. Smile Swapping stock head gasket in this weekend, stay tuned!

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
09-21-2011, 11:38 PM #148

Runs petty good! Been stupid busy lately, not much time for anything. Actually it runs strong enough that my trans is slipping when shifting. There WILL be dyno action after swapping this engine into my new donar car. Smile Swapping stock head gasket in this weekend, stay tuned!


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

Biohazard
Smokin like a champ!

376
09-22-2011, 11:18 PM #149
Your days are numbered, Pumpkin. There is a younger sexier car in the wings. Angel


   



Numbered! Tongue

82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 
Biohazard
09-22-2011, 11:18 PM #149

Your days are numbered, Pumpkin. There is a younger sexier car in the wings. Angel


   



Numbered! Tongue


82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.

84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine! 

mike-81-240d
more like mike-84-300d now

427
09-23-2011, 12:37 AM #150
Hey bio how much for all the trans gear from the 77? PM me.

1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 
mike-81-240d
09-23-2011, 12:37 AM #150

Hey bio how much for all the trans gear from the 77? PM me.


1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30 

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