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OM605 W202 C-Klasse

OM605 W202 C-Klasse

 
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MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-23-2010, 05:14 PM #1
Hi everyone,

I have W202 C-klasse´98 250TD with OM605 (150hp), 290 000km, in good condition.

I want to increase engine power on about +-250hp, max 300hp with low or no smoke.

What I have to do for it (turbo,...)? I like HX35, but I am afraid of spool in 2000-3500rpm. I am daily driver.

Thank you for any info and sorry for my english Wink

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MartinB
01-23-2010, 05:14 PM #1

Hi everyone,

I have W202 C-klasse´98 250TD with OM605 (150hp), 290 000km, in good condition.

I want to increase engine power on about +-250hp, max 300hp with low or no smoke.

What I have to do for it (turbo,...)? I like HX35, but I am afraid of spool in 2000-3500rpm. I am daily driver.

Thank you for any info and sorry for my english Wink


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winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-26-2010, 03:56 PM #2
Search is your friend:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...t-899.html
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...t-990.html
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/comp...t-889.html
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...t-708.html

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-26-2010, 03:56 PM #2

Search is your friend:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...t-899.html
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...t-990.html
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/comp...t-889.html
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/om60...t-708.html


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
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01-26-2010, 08:47 PM #3
(01-23-2010, 05:14 PM)MartinB What I have to do for it (turbo,...)? I like HX35, but I am afraid of spool in 2000-3500rpm. I am daily driver.

You should look for an HY35 or an HE341 instead. Smaller turbine housing will spool up much quicker.

HX35
   

HY35/HE341/HE351
   
This post was last modified: 01-26-2010, 08:55 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
01-26-2010, 08:47 PM #3

(01-23-2010, 05:14 PM)MartinB What I have to do for it (turbo,...)? I like HX35, but I am afraid of spool in 2000-3500rpm. I am daily driver.

You should look for an HY35 or an HE341 instead. Smaller turbine housing will spool up much quicker.

HX35
   

HY35/HE341/HE351
   

MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-27-2010, 10:54 AM #4
Thank you very much!

How much power (approximately) will have OM605 with HY35?...and will i have to modify my original electrical pump? I don´t want to see lot of smoke from my exhaust..Confused

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MartinB
01-27-2010, 10:54 AM #4

Thank you very much!

How much power (approximately) will have OM605 with HY35?...and will i have to modify my original electrical pump? I don´t want to see lot of smoke from my exhaust..Confused


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ForcedInduction
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01-27-2010, 11:10 AM #5
250hp shouldn't be difficult with that turbo, plus a bunch of supporting parts (pump, intercooler, manifolds, etc).
ForcedInduction
01-27-2010, 11:10 AM #5

250hp shouldn't be difficult with that turbo, plus a bunch of supporting parts (pump, intercooler, manifolds, etc).

MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-27-2010, 11:20 AM #6
Will i have to change the elements in pump for bigger?

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MartinB
01-27-2010, 11:20 AM #6

Will i have to change the elements in pump for bigger?


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ForcedInduction
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01-27-2010, 11:38 AM #7
Yes. You won't get more than 175hp worth of fuel without upgrading them.
ForcedInduction
01-27-2010, 11:38 AM #7

Yes. You won't get more than 175hp worth of fuel without upgrading them.

MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-27-2010, 04:19 PM #8
Ok, my pump have 5,5 mm elements or 6,0 mm? I saw on this website, that the original "OM606 turbo" have 6,0 mm. So I need 6,5 mm elements? I really Thank you!

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MartinB
01-27-2010, 04:19 PM #8

Ok, my pump have 5,5 mm elements or 6,0 mm? I saw on this website, that the original "OM606 turbo" have 6,0 mm. So I need 6,5 mm elements? I really Thank you!


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ForcedInduction
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01-27-2010, 06:35 PM #9
Follow the links winmutt gave you yesterday.
ForcedInduction
01-27-2010, 06:35 PM #9

Follow the links winmutt gave you yesterday.

tomnik
Holset

587
01-28-2010, 12:35 AM #10
(01-27-2010, 04:19 PM)MartinB Ok, my pump have 5,5 mm elements or 6,0 mm? I saw on this website, that the original "OM606 turbo" have 6,0 mm. So I need 6,5 mm elements? I really Thank you!

Hi Martin,

where are you located in CZ?

6.5mm M does not exist.
The 605 is a preferred engine in G-Mercedes and (mild) mods have been done by a specialist I know.
The Holsets are difficult to find, easier to find is a Garrett 22 or 25 which should be sufficient in combination with pump and intercooler for a daily driver.
Does your engine have the 5 cyl turbo inline IP (M)?

Tom (Germany)
tomnik
01-28-2010, 12:35 AM #10

(01-27-2010, 04:19 PM)MartinB Ok, my pump have 5,5 mm elements or 6,0 mm? I saw on this website, that the original "OM606 turbo" have 6,0 mm. So I need 6,5 mm elements? I really Thank you!

Hi Martin,

where are you located in CZ?

6.5mm M does not exist.
The 605 is a preferred engine in G-Mercedes and (mild) mods have been done by a specialist I know.
The Holsets are difficult to find, easier to find is a Garrett 22 or 25 which should be sufficient in combination with pump and intercooler for a daily driver.
Does your engine have the 5 cyl turbo inline IP (M)?

Tom (Germany)

jeemu
"some people do, some people talk."

457
01-28-2010, 03:01 AM #11
Garrett GT32 works fine at 300hp
jeemu
01-28-2010, 03:01 AM #11

Garrett GT32 works fine at 300hp

MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-28-2010, 01:11 PM #12
My Mercedes is completely original. IP is electronical and unfortunately I don´t know more info about it, because on these days is Mercedes in the paintshop.

I live nearly by Prague.

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MartinB
01-28-2010, 01:11 PM #12

My Mercedes is completely original. IP is electronical and unfortunately I don´t know more info about it, because on these days is Mercedes in the paintshop.

I live nearly by Prague.


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tomnik
Holset

587
01-28-2010, 04:58 PM #13
(01-28-2010, 01:11 PM)MartinB I live nearly by Prague.

From time to time I am in Kolin.
tomnik
01-28-2010, 04:58 PM #13

(01-28-2010, 01:11 PM)MartinB I live nearly by Prague.

From time to time I am in Kolin.

MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-28-2010, 06:38 PM #14
This is a good joke.. I live in Cesky Brod, it is 25 km from Kolin Smile Can you speak Czech?

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MartinB
01-28-2010, 06:38 PM #14

This is a good joke.. I live in Cesky Brod, it is 25 km from Kolin Smile Can you speak Czech?


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tomnik
Holset

587
01-29-2010, 01:00 AM #15
(01-28-2010, 06:38 PM)MartinB This is a good joke.. I live in Cesky Brod, it is 25 km from Kolin Smile Can you speak Czech?

I can order beer, say Thank You, Hello and Good Bye nearly accent free but that's it. I am responsible for one of our company's customer in Velim.
It's funny but I will be in Velim for a meeting next Thursday but together with my boss ;( but usually I travel alone and can have my beer where I want.

Is your IP a 5 cyl inline, like the ones of the 201 2.5 turbodiesel?
Do you have the IP# or photo?

Tom
tomnik
01-29-2010, 01:00 AM #15

(01-28-2010, 06:38 PM)MartinB This is a good joke.. I live in Cesky Brod, it is 25 km from Kolin Smile Can you speak Czech?

I can order beer, say Thank You, Hello and Good Bye nearly accent free but that's it. I am responsible for one of our company's customer in Velim.
It's funny but I will be in Velim for a meeting next Thursday but together with my boss ;( but usually I travel alone and can have my beer where I want.

Is your IP a 5 cyl inline, like the ones of the 201 2.5 turbodiesel?
Do you have the IP# or photo?

Tom

MartinB
OM605 Power

154
01-29-2010, 02:30 AM #16
Really funny Smile

I do think..it is the same like this http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM...pump01.jpg but only without one cyl.

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MartinB
01-29-2010, 02:30 AM #16

Really funny Smile

I do think..it is the same like this http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM...pump01.jpg but only without one cyl.


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MartinB
OM605 Power

154
02-03-2010, 08:03 PM #17
After a few days searching on internet..I found 2 ideal turbocharger for 250-300hp on OM605.

1. T04E Super 50

http://mystik4l.rajce.idnes.cz/OM605/#Graph2.jpg

2. KKK RS2-2672

http://mystik4l.rajce.idnes.cz/OM605/#Graph1.jpg
This post was last modified: 02-03-2010, 08:04 PM by MartinB.

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MartinB
02-03-2010, 08:03 PM #17

After a few days searching on internet..I found 2 ideal turbocharger for 250-300hp on OM605.

1. T04E Super 50

http://mystik4l.rajce.idnes.cz/OM605/#Graph2.jpg

2. KKK RS2-2672

http://mystik4l.rajce.idnes.cz/OM605/#Graph1.jpg


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