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larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-12-2010, 07:01 PM #1
So, I just had to tinker around with my new toy. I thought I would turn up the boost a bit more with the wastegate screw and play with the alda screw.

Now the trans is shifting hard and at super high revs from 1-2 and 2-3. I wonder what is the deal with that alda screw have I broken it?
[Image: ALDA_innards2.jpg]
The screw is not pictured here. I have taken mine all the way out inspected it and replaced it, looking for the general position it should be in. The inside end of the screw looks like it might be broken. Kinda sheared looking. Can you just use any screw to push down on that diaphragm?

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This post was last modified: 10-12-2010, 08:20 PM by larsalan.
larsalan
10-12-2010, 07:01 PM #1

So, I just had to tinker around with my new toy. I thought I would turn up the boost a bit more with the wastegate screw and play with the alda screw.

Now the trans is shifting hard and at super high revs from 1-2 and 2-3. I wonder what is the deal with that alda screw have I broken it?
[Image: ALDA_innards2.jpg]
The screw is not pictured here. I have taken mine all the way out inspected it and replaced it, looking for the general position it should be in. The inside end of the screw looks like it might be broken. Kinda sheared looking. Can you just use any screw to push down on that diaphragm?

[Image: attachment.php?aid=1913]

ForcedInduction
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3,628
10-12-2010, 07:27 PM #2
If you removed the screw you destroyed the ALDA.
ForcedInduction
10-12-2010, 07:27 PM #2

If you removed the screw you destroyed the ALDA.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-12-2010, 07:35 PM #3
(10-12-2010, 07:27 PM)ForcedInduction If you removed the screw you destroyed the ALDA.

Figures. What can I do to fix it? New alda. Or ...

can I put some other pressure valve in that spot? Isn't that what's going on in there. You are regulating how much pressure/vacuum is being regulated.


Or should I leave it off and deal with the shifting in some other way? I see you run your 240 w/o one. Is that going to be a serious issue for EGTs? and I see what you said in post 17 of this other thread. That the alda is only for emissions and I can control the shifting through other means


I am looking at this thread too.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/alda...t-919.html
maybe there is some advice in there
So, as you ccw the screw is it supposed to be pulling up on the diaphragm? Maybe some JB weld on the tip of the screw for a temporary fix?
This post was last modified: 10-12-2010, 08:14 PM by larsalan.
larsalan
10-12-2010, 07:35 PM #3

(10-12-2010, 07:27 PM)ForcedInduction If you removed the screw you destroyed the ALDA.

Figures. What can I do to fix it? New alda. Or ...

can I put some other pressure valve in that spot? Isn't that what's going on in there. You are regulating how much pressure/vacuum is being regulated.


Or should I leave it off and deal with the shifting in some other way? I see you run your 240 w/o one. Is that going to be a serious issue for EGTs? and I see what you said in post 17 of this other thread. That the alda is only for emissions and I can control the shifting through other means


I am looking at this thread too.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/alda...t-919.html
maybe there is some advice in there
So, as you ccw the screw is it supposed to be pulling up on the diaphragm? Maybe some JB weld on the tip of the screw for a temporary fix?

300D50
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775
10-12-2010, 08:24 PM #4
The aneroid capsule has a set, calibrated, internal pressure. Once the seal of the capsule is broken it's garbage.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

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300D50
10-12-2010, 08:24 PM #4

The aneroid capsule has a set, calibrated, internal pressure. Once the seal of the capsule is broken it's garbage.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-12-2010, 08:35 PM #5
Ok, so removal is the next step. Or is disabled/broken the same as removed?
Then either trying to adjust this shifting issue or replace the alda and then adjust stuff again.
This post was last modified: 10-12-2010, 08:48 PM by larsalan.

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larsalan
10-12-2010, 08:35 PM #5

Ok, so removal is the next step. Or is disabled/broken the same as removed?
Then either trying to adjust this shifting issue or replace the alda and then adjust stuff again.


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willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-12-2010, 09:29 PM #6
The ALDA has no affect on the shifting!

You probably bumped off a vacuum line to the transmission by accident!

It goes from the passenger side of the transmission over the transmission to a connector up by the ALDA! very easy to knock it off while in there!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-12-2010, 09:29 PM #6

The ALDA has no affect on the shifting!

You probably bumped off a vacuum line to the transmission by accident!

It goes from the passenger side of the transmission over the transmission to a connector up by the ALDA! very easy to knock it off while in there!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-12-2010, 10:14 PM #7
(10-12-2010, 09:29 PM)willbhere4u The ALDA has no affect on the shifting!

You probably bumped off a vacuum line to the transmission by accident!

It goes from the passenger side of the transmission over the transmission to a connector up by the ALDA! very easy to knock it off while in there!

There were two hardlines that go into that shifting thing on top of the valve cover. One had been knocked loose at a four way connector near the alda, master brake cylinder area and I reconnected it. I'll have a look to see if that one you're describing has been unhooked.
thanks


Do you think that turning the wastegate to a higher boost setting could be affecting the shifting?
This post was last modified: 10-12-2010, 10:17 PM by larsalan.

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larsalan
10-12-2010, 10:14 PM #7

(10-12-2010, 09:29 PM)willbhere4u The ALDA has no affect on the shifting!

You probably bumped off a vacuum line to the transmission by accident!

It goes from the passenger side of the transmission over the transmission to a connector up by the ALDA! very easy to knock it off while in there!

There were two hardlines that go into that shifting thing on top of the valve cover. One had been knocked loose at a four way connector near the alda, master brake cylinder area and I reconnected it. I'll have a look to see if that one you're describing has been unhooked.
thanks


Do you think that turning the wastegate to a higher boost setting could be affecting the shifting?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-12-2010, 10:53 PM #8
I wouldn't think so!

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-12-2010, 10:53 PM #8

I wouldn't think so!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-12-2010, 11:13 PM #9
Like I said, I will have a look at the situation tomorrow.
Another question though. If the alda is broken/disabled why aren't I rolling coal when I take off?
Must be disabled somewhere in the middle of it's adjustment range? Do I need to remove some more of it to see the black smoke?

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-12-2010, 11:13 PM #9

Like I said, I will have a look at the situation tomorrow.
Another question though. If the alda is broken/disabled why aren't I rolling coal when I take off?
Must be disabled somewhere in the middle of it's adjustment range? Do I need to remove some more of it to see the black smoke?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-13-2010, 07:53 AM #10
(10-12-2010, 09:29 PM)willbhere4u The ALDA has no affect on the shifting!

Yes it does. The reduced power means you'll apply more throttle to accelerate the same as usual, which means more bowden cable tension and higher/firmer shifts.
ForcedInduction
10-13-2010, 07:53 AM #10

(10-12-2010, 09:29 PM)willbhere4u The ALDA has no affect on the shifting!

Yes it does. The reduced power means you'll apply more throttle to accelerate the same as usual, which means more bowden cable tension and higher/firmer shifts.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-13-2010, 10:06 AM #11
OH right your car has a bowden cable mine didn't 1979 300sd
This post was last modified: 10-13-2010, 10:07 AM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-13-2010, 10:06 AM #11

OH right your car has a bowden cable mine didn't 1979 300sd


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
10-13-2010, 10:12 AM #12
Rod/bowden cable, same function.
ForcedInduction
10-13-2010, 10:12 AM #12

Rod/bowden cable, same function.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-13-2010, 11:21 AM #13
Ah yes the cable fixed the hard shifting. But still shifts at really high revs. Anyway to shift at lower rpms?

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larsalan
10-13-2010, 11:21 AM #13

Ah yes the cable fixed the hard shifting. But still shifts at really high revs. Anyway to shift at lower rpms?


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larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-13-2010, 07:48 PM #14
Alright, I will probably need some more advice. That cable adjusting fixed the shifting but, now I am starting off in second more often than not. And like I said before I am not getting that nice black smoke at all.
The broken alda must be restricting fuel, right? Otherwise I should see the wasted fuel in the exhaust.

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
10-13-2010, 07:48 PM #14

Alright, I will probably need some more advice. That cable adjusting fixed the shifting but, now I am starting off in second more often than not. And like I said before I am not getting that nice black smoke at all.
The broken alda must be restricting fuel, right? Otherwise I should see the wasted fuel in the exhaust.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
10-14-2010, 05:13 PM #15
I'll take the alda shaft seal off your hands if you still have it (little green seal in the pic), since mine's deader than a doornail and more shriveled than a prune.

There was someone who sold them, but I never could get in touch with them.

1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
300D50
10-14-2010, 05:13 PM #15

I'll take the alda shaft seal off your hands if you still have it (little green seal in the pic), since mine's deader than a doornail and more shriveled than a prune.

There was someone who sold them, but I never could get in touch with them.


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
10-14-2010, 08:47 PM #16
I'll let you know if I get it out. The whole alda is still on there, just plugged off the vac lines. I couldn't get that big 27mm nut to budge.
That's not the seal that forced is saying keeps the IP sealed, is it?

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
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larsalan
10-14-2010, 08:47 PM #16

I'll let you know if I get it out. The whole alda is still on there, just plugged off the vac lines. I couldn't get that big 27mm nut to budge.
That's not the seal that forced is saying keeps the IP sealed, is it?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

 
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