water injector?
water injector?
I was just over at rudolph's skunkworks thread and got looking at water injection systems. I read on to see that injecting water might be used as a good way to steam clean the 617 motor.
As you may also know my alda system is all messed up. As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector. At the aft end of the intake manifold there is a banjo bolt that is doing nothing now.
Sound like a feasible plan for an occasional cleaning?
Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.
(10-15-2010, 11:05 AM)George3soccer Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.
(10-15-2010, 11:05 AM)George3soccer Just get a good water/meth mix, and have it injected during driving, and not just for cleaning the motor.
I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold. Otherwise it may be inhibited by the boost pressure moving along the manifold toward #5 cylinder.
That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.
(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)300D50 That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.
(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)300D50 That banjo bolt is close to unobtanium, keep that in mind before thinking of modifying it for any other duty.
(10-15-2010, 10:03 AM)larsalan As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector.That will only inject into the #5 cylinder and hydrolock it.
(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold.That would inject almost entirely into the #1 cylinder.
(10-15-2010, 10:03 AM)larsalan As such there is what I think would be a great spot for a water injector.That will only inject into the #5 cylinder and hydrolock it.
(10-15-2010, 12:49 PM)Rudolf_Diesel I would inject it where the EGR mounts, that way it is distributed along the intake manifold.That would inject almost entirely into the #1 cylinder.
What are you using for nozzles FI?
FI you say the turbo housing is the closest water should be injected. The only place further would be pre turbo. I read some people having concern about putting water through the turbo.
Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo. Or is the turbo housing essentially the best place to put it in.
Also what about that wiper fluid? Is that really meth/water and a proper mix to inject?
(10-15-2010, 05:57 PM)ForcedInduction 200cc on the 240D (pictured) and 6x70cc on the 300D.
(10-15-2010, 05:57 PM)ForcedInduction 200cc on the 240D (pictured) and 6x70cc on the 300D.
(10-15-2010, 06:05 PM)larsalan Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo.No. Thats the worst place.
Quote:Also what about that wiper fluid?I use off the shelf -20*f washer fluid in both my systems. Its just water, 35% methanol and blue dye.
(10-15-2010, 06:05 PM)larsalan Would you say it's ok to put water through the turbo.No. Thats the worst place.
Quote:Also what about that wiper fluid?I use off the shelf -20*f washer fluid in both my systems. Its just water, 35% methanol and blue dye.
Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.
I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.
(10-15-2010, 06:20 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.
I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.
(10-15-2010, 06:20 PM)Rudolf_Diesel Some people inject before the turbo, it supposedly changes some characteristics of the turbo, but others have reported about compressor erosion. Personally I wouldn't put it in that position.
I use 50% distilled water and 50% denatured alcohol, it is pretty expensive, but it works for me.
^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?
So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan ^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?
So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan ^ nuts? like pecans or walnuts?
So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo. That stuff really adds pep at the high end! I can only imagine most of the kick comes from the meth.
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.
(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.
(10-16-2010, 06:07 PM)ForcedInduction(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.
Stop that!
(10-16-2010, 06:07 PM)ForcedInduction(10-16-2010, 12:04 PM)larsalan So, today I ran my window wiper hose into the intake pre-turbo.
Stop that!
Quote:Please tell him why he should stop.Okay; snapping the turbo's shaft and/or hydrolocking the engine.
Quote:Please tell him why he should stop.Okay; snapping the turbo's shaft and/or hydrolocking the engine.
FI are using a WI specific nozzle? It looks like your fittings are 1/8th NPT and I am trying to figure out how you have the nozzles intalled...
(10-17-2010, 11:04 AM)ForcedInduction Yes.
http://www.aquastealth.com/nozzleassemblies.aspx
(10-17-2010, 11:04 AM)ForcedInduction Yes.
http://www.aquastealth.com/nozzleassemblies.aspx
(10-17-2010, 11:43 AM)Rudolf_Diesel Ok, I will have to buy one and see how it is put together. The one I am using has a small orifice and a stem inside that has four groves cut into the end and is spring loaded.
(10-17-2010, 11:43 AM)Rudolf_Diesel Ok, I will have to buy one and see how it is put together. The one I am using has a small orifice and a stem inside that has four groves cut into the end and is spring loaded.
My spray pattern looks just like the one in the video.
I had told this guy nick about the water injection and how it is supposed to increase compression and cool intake air.
He says a friend of his has done it w/ some semi tractors. Then he says be careful you don't bend a valve or put a hole in a piston. Don't those things sound like baloney or are those real possibilities?