STD Tuning Drivetrain preventative maint for 240D 4 speed?

preventative maint for 240D 4 speed?

preventative maint for 240D 4 speed?

 
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stan
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03-11-2011, 12:40 AM #1
i'm lifting the old engine and trans out of my '81 240D pretty soon and i'm going to be using the old tranny with my new engine.

other than a fluid change is there anything i should consider doing while i have the transmission outside the car?

i'm finding mixed answers on what kind of fluid to use too - different manuals / people say all kinds of different things.
stan
03-11-2011, 12:40 AM #1

i'm lifting the old engine and trans out of my '81 240D pretty soon and i'm going to be using the old tranny with my new engine.

other than a fluid change is there anything i should consider doing while i have the transmission outside the car?

i'm finding mixed answers on what kind of fluid to use too - different manuals / people say all kinds of different things.

aaa
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03-11-2011, 04:53 AM #2
Shifter bushings?
aaa
03-11-2011, 04:53 AM #2

Shifter bushings?

ForcedInduction
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03-11-2011, 07:46 AM #3
(03-11-2011, 12:40 AM)stan i'm finding mixed answers on what kind of fluid to use too

Mobil1 synthetic ATF.
ForcedInduction
03-11-2011, 07:46 AM #3

(03-11-2011, 12:40 AM)stan i'm finding mixed answers on what kind of fluid to use too

Mobil1 synthetic ATF.

JB3
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03-11-2011, 09:46 AM #4
personally, id consider putting new front and rear seals on the tranny, as well as shift lever arm seals. It will never be easier than now. Also, like said above, linkage bushings on both sides, and use ATF.

You hear a lot of talk about gear oil in these trannys because a number of similar vintage domestic and Asian gear boxes were using gear oil, and people have the tendency to assume that before a certain year, all manual gear boxes used gear oil.

This is incorrect, the factory spec calls for ATF, Im with forced, use some really nice synthetic ATF. The internals of the box are designed with the movement characteristics of ATF in mind, not the far thicker gear oil.

What are you doing about the clutch and release bearing? are they good?

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
03-11-2011, 09:46 AM #4

personally, id consider putting new front and rear seals on the tranny, as well as shift lever arm seals. It will never be easier than now. Also, like said above, linkage bushings on both sides, and use ATF.

You hear a lot of talk about gear oil in these trannys because a number of similar vintage domestic and Asian gear boxes were using gear oil, and people have the tendency to assume that before a certain year, all manual gear boxes used gear oil.

This is incorrect, the factory spec calls for ATF, Im with forced, use some really nice synthetic ATF. The internals of the box are designed with the movement characteristics of ATF in mind, not the far thicker gear oil.

What are you doing about the clutch and release bearing? are they good?


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

larsalan
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03-11-2011, 01:46 PM #5
what about a filter. Did that just go without saying or what? The nasty ass filter in my trans was all but disintegrated, ymmv.

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larsalan
03-11-2011, 01:46 PM #5

what about a filter. Did that just go without saying or what? The nasty ass filter in my trans was all but disintegrated, ymmv.


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

JB3
Superturbo

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03-11-2011, 01:56 PM #6
(03-11-2011, 01:46 PM)larsalan what about a filter. Did that just go without saying or what? The nasty ass filter in my trans was all but disintegrated, ymmv.

his 4-speed is a manual, so no filter. Though thats definitely something that should be replaced too if the application has one. I had an auto box where the filter was sucked up into the intake! Big Grin

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
03-11-2011, 01:56 PM #6

(03-11-2011, 01:46 PM)larsalan what about a filter. Did that just go without saying or what? The nasty ass filter in my trans was all but disintegrated, ymmv.

his 4-speed is a manual, so no filter. Though thats definitely something that should be replaced too if the application has one. I had an auto box where the filter was sucked up into the intake! Big Grin


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

stan
Holset

328
03-11-2011, 04:31 PM #7
ok i will go with you guys on this one, ATF it is.

forced- you said mobil 1 atf. is there a huge reason for it instead of something similar? i'm using some amazon credit i have, and i have a prime account - there's almost a 2x price difference between "Valvoline VV357 DEX/MERC Automatic Transmission Fluid" and mobil 1 atf due to having to pay shipping on hte mobil 1.
stan
03-11-2011, 04:31 PM #7

ok i will go with you guys on this one, ATF it is.

forced- you said mobil 1 atf. is there a huge reason for it instead of something similar? i'm using some amazon credit i have, and i have a prime account - there's almost a 2x price difference between "Valvoline VV357 DEX/MERC Automatic Transmission Fluid" and mobil 1 atf due to having to pay shipping on hte mobil 1.

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03-12-2011, 10:48 AM #8
(03-11-2011, 04:31 PM)stan forced- you said mobil 1 atf. is there a huge reason for it
Its the best out there.

Quote:there's almost a 2x price difference between "Valvoline VV357 DEX/MERC Automatic Transmission Fluid" and mobil 1 atf due to having to pay shipping on hte mobil 1.
Its not because of shipping, its because Valvoline isn't synthetic.
ForcedInduction
03-12-2011, 10:48 AM #8

(03-11-2011, 04:31 PM)stan forced- you said mobil 1 atf. is there a huge reason for it
Its the best out there.

Quote:there's almost a 2x price difference between "Valvoline VV357 DEX/MERC Automatic Transmission Fluid" and mobil 1 atf due to having to pay shipping on hte mobil 1.
Its not because of shipping, its because Valvoline isn't synthetic.

300D50
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03-12-2011, 02:21 PM #9
Forced, what he means is that the amazon prime waives shipping on the valvoline, but he has to pay it for the M1. Amazon is stupid like that...

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300D50
03-12-2011, 02:21 PM #9

Forced, what he means is that the amazon prime waives shipping on the valvoline, but he has to pay it for the M1. Amazon is stupid like that...


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

ForcedInduction
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03-13-2011, 01:08 AM #10
I wouldn't pay shipping for Valvoline ATF either, its available at every store that sells any automotive fluids.
ForcedInduction
03-13-2011, 01:08 AM #10

I wouldn't pay shipping for Valvoline ATF either, its available at every store that sells any automotive fluids.

stan
Holset

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03-13-2011, 04:22 AM #11
ok anyhow, mobil 1 atf sounds like its worth spending the extra couple bucks on. i'll go with that. Smile

stan
03-13-2011, 04:22 AM #11

ok anyhow, mobil 1 atf sounds like its worth spending the extra couple bucks on. i'll go with that. Smile

 
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