new cars are agg as fuck
new cars are agg as fuck
04-28-2011, 01:41 PM
#1
shitty part -
new key on the benz: buy a blank, have any locksmith or shop cut a copy of your existing one
new key on the GTI: buy a new fob, buy a new keyhead with blank blade. get the blade cut. code in the remote fob buttons (lock/unlock/panic/hatch). program the car immobilizer to accept the keyhead's rfid chip*
or pay the dealer $350 for everything.
awesome part-
more power on the benz: $1200+ for an upgraded IP, and then figuring out supporting mods and tweaking everything to work right without blowing the engine up.
more power on the GTI: buy bolt-on parts (intake, exhaust, intercooler) and new ecu code (apr stage 2), run 100 octane gas, get 270hp / 323ft-lb (from 200hp / 207ft-lb stock)
frustrating dealing with the key crap right now, but at least it will be super duper easy to add power later on!
*to add an rfid to the immobilizer, you need to code it into the system with a computer. you either have to pay the dealer to do it with their automated system, or find a way to extract the SKC so that you can code in the SKC, importer ID, date the SKC was retrieved (they mutate based on date), immobilizer ID, and vin.
i'm dealing with stuff on my GTI and it is so different from what we deal with on our diesel benzes.
shitty part -
new key on the benz: buy a blank, have any locksmith or shop cut a copy of your existing one
new key on the GTI: buy a new fob, buy a new keyhead with blank blade. get the blade cut. code in the remote fob buttons (lock/unlock/panic/hatch). program the car immobilizer to accept the keyhead's rfid chip*
or pay the dealer $350 for everything.
awesome part-
more power on the benz: $1200+ for an upgraded IP, and then figuring out supporting mods and tweaking everything to work right without blowing the engine up.
more power on the GTI: buy bolt-on parts (intake, exhaust, intercooler) and new ecu code (apr stage 2), run 100 octane gas, get 270hp / 323ft-lb (from 200hp / 207ft-lb stock)
frustrating dealing with the key crap right now, but at least it will be super duper easy to add power later on!
*to add an rfid to the immobilizer, you need to code it into the system with a computer. you either have to pay the dealer to do it with their automated system, or find a way to extract the SKC so that you can code in the SKC, importer ID, date the SKC was retrieved (they mutate based on date), immobilizer ID, and vin.
04-28-2011, 02:24 PM
#2
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
Not to mention fwd fail.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
04-28-2011, 03:35 PM
#3
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
04-28-2011, 03:35 PM #3Not to mention this information is quite obvious of any new car haha. And my 38 year old SBC still makes more ponies
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
04-29-2011, 12:31 PM
#4
This post was last modified: 05-08-2011, 08:30 PM by willbhere4u.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-29-2011, 12:31 PM #4what does agg mean?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
04-29-2011, 01:47 PM
#5
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
I'd guess aggravating
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
04-29-2011, 02:57 PM
#6
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-29-2011, 02:57 PM #6duh retarded question retracted!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
05-03-2011, 08:08 AM
#8
(04-28-2011, 01:41 PM)stan *to add an rfid to the immobilizer, you need to code it into the system with a computer. you either have to pay the dealer to do it with their automated system, or find a way to extract the SKC so that you can code in the SKC, importer ID, date the SKC was retrieved (they mutate based on date), immobilizer ID, and vin.
I was under the impression you could code these with VAG COM?
I have been fighting P0400 PO411 and PO302 codes on the 00 Eurovan with the 2.8 12v AES VR6. Think I finally got it all sorted but man, VW really does not design their stuff to last like MB did. Maybe its the decades difference but really. For instance the plastic tubing used for the SAIS system is really cheap and clearly would become brittle over time. For $10 I replaced the $100 plastic crap with rubber hose and pvc elbows that will long outlast the OE crap. I have to say though, so far the car has been pretty easy to work on.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(04-28-2011, 01:41 PM)stan *to add an rfid to the immobilizer, you need to code it into the system with a computer. you either have to pay the dealer to do it with their automated system, or find a way to extract the SKC so that you can code in the SKC, importer ID, date the SKC was retrieved (they mutate based on date), immobilizer ID, and vin.
I was under the impression you could code these with VAG COM?
I have been fighting P0400 PO411 and PO302 codes on the 00 Eurovan with the 2.8 12v AES VR6. Think I finally got it all sorted but man, VW really does not design their stuff to last like MB did. Maybe its the decades difference but really. For instance the plastic tubing used for the SAIS system is really cheap and clearly would become brittle over time. For $10 I replaced the $100 plastic crap with rubber hose and pvc elbows that will long outlast the OE crap. I have to say though, so far the car has been pretty easy to work on.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
05-06-2011, 04:33 AM
#9
supposedly vag-commander can pull the SKC, so i'm going to be ordering one of those too. chinese clone version is ~40 bucks, so its worth a shot.
excited to hook up the vag-com tomorrow and see why i have a check engine light
yeah my vag-com is coming tomorrow. with the newer cars (immo-4) you need the immobilizer pin (SKC), but it was never shipped with the car and the dealers cant get it (they're all on geko now).
supposedly vag-commander can pull the SKC, so i'm going to be ordering one of those too. chinese clone version is ~40 bucks, so its worth a shot.
excited to hook up the vag-com tomorrow and see why i have a check engine light
05-06-2011, 10:54 AM
#10
Remember the OHM resistance pill glued on the ignition key of early to mid 90's cadillac's? The one where the ignition read the resistance of the pill as an added safety feature, but, if the pill was dirty or corroded, the car wouldn't start, even though the key would turn? And the little pill just looked like some Caddy bling on the key, not the cause of the no start?
Unbelievable PITA to figure out what was wrong unless you knew about that feature.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
I most dislike the early generations of electronic upgrages, sometime after the old benz and before the GTI.
Remember the OHM resistance pill glued on the ignition key of early to mid 90's cadillac's? The one where the ignition read the resistance of the pill as an added safety feature, but, if the pill was dirty or corroded, the car wouldn't start, even though the key would turn? And the little pill just looked like some Caddy bling on the key, not the cause of the no start?
Unbelievable PITA to figure out what was wrong unless you knew about that feature.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-07-2011, 06:26 AM
#11
Ed
yankneck696
05-07-2011, 06:26 AM #11On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
05-08-2011, 03:00 PM
#12
(05-07-2011, 06:26 AM)yankneck696 On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
+1
Done that a couple times myself
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-08-2011, 03:00 PM #12(05-07-2011, 06:26 AM)yankneck696 On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
+1
Done that a couple times myself
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-08-2011, 03:15 PM
#13
(05-07-2011, 06:26 AM)yankneck696 On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
awesome trick, you can imagine me screwing around following a diagnostic strategy for a no start, with absolutely no idea this feature existed while the boss snickered in the office!
Took me until I verified that every other part of the starting/charging system was good until I went to the computer and discovered that little gem of a security feature. After that, little wiring research first for me.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(05-07-2011, 06:26 AM)yankneck696 On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
awesome trick, you can imagine me screwing around following a diagnostic strategy for a no start, with absolutely no idea this feature existed while the boss snickered in the office!
Took me until I verified that every other part of the starting/charging system was good until I went to the computer and discovered that little gem of a security feature. After that, little wiring research first for me.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
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