Om605 info required!
Om605 info required!
I have a few questions regarding the OM605. Ive been wanting to make a speedy one for some time. There are ample C250TD's over here in the UK - some really nice ones too. Im not interested in a E300 as they are all auto and i dont want the hassle of doing an manual conversion.
Basically, whats the route for these in terms of more power?
Manual injection pump?
Big turbo?
Stronger clutch?
3'' exhaust?
Anyone know roughly how much this stuff will cost?
Any help appreciated! Cheers!
I currently drive a 97' Volvo 940 2.3 Turbo petrol. To get around 300 bhp isnt too hard but after that your looking at forged rods etc. Also the MPG is pretty shocking i get around 70 miles to £20..... and the clutch is going
Hai guys!
I have a few questions regarding the OM605. Ive been wanting to make a speedy one for some time. There are ample C250TD's over here in the UK - some really nice ones too. Im not interested in a E300 as they are all auto and i dont want the hassle of doing an manual conversion.
Basically, whats the route for these in terms of more power?
Manual injection pump?
Big turbo?
Stronger clutch?
3'' exhaust?
Anyone know roughly how much this stuff will cost?
Any help appreciated! Cheers!
I currently drive a 97' Volvo 940 2.3 Turbo petrol. To get around 300 bhp isnt too hard but after that your looking at forged rods etc. Also the MPG is pretty shocking i get around 70 miles to £20..... and the clutch is going
So far i have spent around £100, granted i dont have a holset hx or huge garrett (aprrox £2-300), but i have been carefull on what i have chose as im not aiming for huge power (yet)
I bought a big intercooler (3" outlets, 76mm deep and quite wide and tall)
3 gauges and pod
Boost controller
A kkk k27-2 turbo (off a mercedes commercial big diesel)
All the stainless for the exhaust and boost pipes
I'm trying to decided if need to go for bigger elements as i the turbo wont push as much air as the holset (yet, again)
Jeemu has had excellent results and has been at it a while with both manual and electric pumps.
Mantahead has also had very good results and is running an electric pump as per both you and me
It seems were you can spend the big money is the pump and elements and once again mantahead has shown that you can get a remap and still get very good results with a modified intake, modified exhaust, elements and a remap (not sure of how much he has spent though).
There are quite a few examples on line but mainly seem to have a manual pump
cleetus
AAA is £3k a tad over pricey (yes if everything is brand new and a Myna pump)?????
So far i have spent around £100, granted i dont have a holset hx or huge garrett (aprrox £2-300), but i have been carefull on what i have chose as im not aiming for huge power (yet)
I bought a big intercooler (3" outlets, 76mm deep and quite wide and tall)
3 gauges and pod
Boost controller
A kkk k27-2 turbo (off a mercedes commercial big diesel)
All the stainless for the exhaust and boost pipes
I'm trying to decided if need to go for bigger elements as i the turbo wont push as much air as the holset (yet, again)
Jeemu has had excellent results and has been at it a while with both manual and electric pumps.
Mantahead has also had very good results and is running an electric pump as per both you and me
It seems were you can spend the big money is the pump and elements and once again mantahead has shown that you can get a remap and still get very good results with a modified intake, modified exhaust, elements and a remap (not sure of how much he has spent though).
There are quite a few examples on line but mainly seem to have a manual pump
cleetus
The car in question is a 90's C250TD (OM605)
Can these be converted to run on manual injection pumps?
Basically im thinking:
Big intercooler and piping
Holset HX40 or similar
Myna manual pump
3'' exhaust
Is there any other niggly little bits that need to be done??
I also have a very tasty forge unos MBC on my volvo - i presume i could use this on the merc??
As for gauges: boost and wideband?
Id like to hit at least 300 bhp yeah.
The car in question is a 90's C250TD (OM605)
Can these be converted to run on manual injection pumps?
Basically im thinking:
Big intercooler and piping
Holset HX40 or similar
Myna manual pump
3'' exhaust
Is there any other niggly little bits that need to be done??
I also have a very tasty forge unos MBC on my volvo - i presume i could use this on the merc??
As for gauges: boost and wideband?
(08-03-2011, 06:19 PM)aaa Wideband? Don't see how useful that'd be. How about an EGT gauge.
I'd say you're all set otherwise.
Oh yeah im still thinking petrol lmao.
What is required to make one run on a manual injection pump??
Also will the 5 speed manual hold the power?
What clutch options are there?
(08-03-2011, 06:19 PM)aaa Wideband? Don't see how useful that'd be. How about an EGT gauge.
I'd say you're all set otherwise.
Oh yeah im still thinking petrol lmao.
What is required to make one run on a manual injection pump??
Also will the 5 speed manual hold the power?
What clutch options are there?
(08-04-2011, 10:38 AM)dcm You need to get hold of an OM602 pump and fit larger elements if you want to convert it to a manual pump. Have you bought a C250TD?
Have a look at this thread, LINK.
Ty for the info :p
No i havent brought a merc yet. I still have the volvo. But it needs a £260 clutch and £350 flywheel. Thats just to sort the slipping clutch. I upped the boost on the stock clutch and it lasted around a month before it started to slip. So im thinking of returning the clutch and flywheel selling the volvo and buying a C250TD
And the horrific MPG in the volvo too. I love the look of the E300's but cant be dealing with a manual conversion lol. Are there any other om605 / 6 powered mercs that are manual??
(08-04-2011, 10:38 AM)dcm You need to get hold of an OM602 pump and fit larger elements if you want to convert it to a manual pump. Have you bought a C250TD?
Have a look at this thread, LINK.
Ty for the info :p
No i havent brought a merc yet. I still have the volvo. But it needs a £260 clutch and £350 flywheel. Thats just to sort the slipping clutch. I upped the boost on the stock clutch and it lasted around a month before it started to slip. So im thinking of returning the clutch and flywheel selling the volvo and buying a C250TD
And the horrific MPG in the volvo too. I love the look of the E300's but cant be dealing with a manual conversion lol. Are there any other om605 / 6 powered mercs that are manual??
(08-05-2011, 05:08 AM)dcm Finding a good C250TD manual might take a while, most of them are auto if you’re looking at getting a sport model. The only W210 models that are manual are the non turbo versions I think.
Id be looking for no rust, leather interior and VGC so yeah i think it will take a while. But looking on ebay there are always a few good ones out there
(08-05-2011, 05:08 AM)dcm Finding a good C250TD manual might take a while, most of them are auto if you’re looking at getting a sport model. The only W210 models that are manual are the non turbo versions I think.
Id be looking for no rust, leather interior and VGC so yeah i think it will take a while. But looking on ebay there are always a few good ones out there
(08-06-2011, 05:39 PM)mantahead(08-06-2011, 04:52 PM)Palmer Stock clutch can take much?Hi,
and the 5 speed manual??
my stock om605 clutch shit its self at 266hp. The gearbox has stuck 368hp with no problems yet.
What did u use as a replacement and how much did it cost if u dont mind me asking?
(08-06-2011, 06:04 PM)Palmerhi,(08-06-2011, 05:39 PM)mantahead(08-06-2011, 04:52 PM)Palmer Stock clutch can take much?Hi,
and the 5 speed manual??
my stock om605 clutch shit its self at 266hp. The gearbox has stuck 368hp with no problems yet.
What did u use as a replacement and how much did it cost if u dont mind me asking?
5 puk paddle with as strong of pressure plate he could make me was about 400 quid.
(08-06-2011, 06:04 PM)Palmerhi,(08-06-2011, 05:39 PM)mantahead(08-06-2011, 04:52 PM)Palmer Stock clutch can take much?Hi,
and the 5 speed manual??
my stock om605 clutch shit its self at 266hp. The gearbox has stuck 368hp with no problems yet.
What did u use as a replacement and how much did it cost if u dont mind me asking?
5 puk paddle with as strong of pressure plate he could make me was about 400 quid.
(08-06-2011, 06:13 PM)mantahead(08-06-2011, 06:04 PM)Palmerhi,(08-06-2011, 05:39 PM)mantahead Hi,
my stock om605 clutch shit its self at 266hp. The gearbox has stuck 368hp with no problems yet.
What did u use as a replacement and how much did it cost if u dont mind me asking?
5 puk paddle with as strong of pressure plate he could make me was about 400 quid.
Ouch lol.
What mpg do you average? Or how many miles to a tenner lol
I think im gonna do this. Ill start tomorrow on getting rid of the volvo
(08-06-2011, 06:13 PM)mantahead(08-06-2011, 06:04 PM)Palmerhi,(08-06-2011, 05:39 PM)mantahead Hi,
my stock om605 clutch shit its self at 266hp. The gearbox has stuck 368hp with no problems yet.
What did u use as a replacement and how much did it cost if u dont mind me asking?
5 puk paddle with as strong of pressure plate he could make me was about 400 quid.
Ouch lol.
What mpg do you average? Or how many miles to a tenner lol
I think im gonna do this. Ill start tomorrow on getting rid of the volvo
(08-14-2011, 09:55 AM)dcm It would depend on what power you’re going to go for and if you can find someone local to map the car? If you cant then fitting a manual pump would be best so you can adjust it yourself.
I was thinking manual because i dont anyone local who can map. So it be a bit of an arse travelling each time - and i doubt it would be cheap :O!
(08-14-2011, 09:55 AM)dcm It would depend on what power you’re going to go for and if you can find someone local to map the car? If you cant then fitting a manual pump would be best so you can adjust it yourself.
I was thinking manual because i dont anyone local who can map. So it be a bit of an arse travelling each time - and i doubt it would be cheap :O!
What would be a good turbo choice? And is there an option that will bolt up to the manifold so i dont need to get it welded
So far i was thinking in order:
Coilovers
Merc block rims (idk what there called lol)
Big IC
Clutch
3'' exhaust + dp
Manual pump
Bigger turbo
Buggar didnt come so its on ebay now
What would be a good turbo choice? And is there an option that will bolt up to the manifold so i dont need to get it welded
So far i was thinking in order:
Coilovers
Merc block rims (idk what there called lol)
Big IC
Clutch
3'' exhaust + dp
Manual pump
Bigger turbo
(08-30-2011, 01:25 AM)cleetus Hi Palmer
im afraid you will need to get the welder out as the flange on the OM605 is a triangular shape, and at best you will need to fab an adapter pipe.
I am drawing my flanges and hopefully getting then sorted this week.
Ahhh that sucks!
No worries i know a good welder anyway
Cant wait to get started just need to shift the volvo
(08-30-2011, 01:25 AM)cleetus Hi Palmer
im afraid you will need to get the welder out as the flange on the OM605 is a triangular shape, and at best you will need to fab an adapter pipe.
I am drawing my flanges and hopefully getting then sorted this week.
Ahhh that sucks!
No worries i know a good welder anyway
Cant wait to get started just need to shift the volvo
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