A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!!
A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!!
10-19-2011, 03:42 PM
#1
![[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA1NDUtMjAxMTEwMTUtMTYzNS5qcGc.jpg]](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/utf-8BSU1HMDA1NDUtMjAxMTEwMTUtMTYzNS5qcGc.jpg)
Above are two dyno graphs overlapped, they show hp over high speed lamda, the green one was my self build electronic governor pump fitted with Toms 7.5mm floyd elements(368hp)
The red graph is my self build mechanical pump fitted with the same 7.5mm elements.(307hp)
I can't seem to make anymore power with mechanical pump. I have had this pump on and off at least 12 times. This has proved to me that DIY governor setting will not work without a test bench.
NOW THE CHALLANGE.
Can Dieselmeken adjust my mechanical pump and get me more power than the (368hp) electronic pump.
If you agree to this challange, the car will be put back on the same Dyno Dynamics rolling road to compare results.
I would like as close to 450hp with full fuel to 6500rpm.
wayne
A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN:
Above are two dyno graphs overlapped, they show hp over high speed lamda, the green one was my self build electronic governor pump fitted with Toms 7.5mm floyd elements(368hp)
The red graph is my self build mechanical pump fitted with the same 7.5mm elements.(307hp)
I can't seem to make anymore power with mechanical pump. I have had this pump on and off at least 12 times. This has proved to me that DIY governor setting will not work without a test bench.
NOW THE CHALLANGE.
Can Dieselmeken adjust my mechanical pump and get me more power than the (368hp) electronic pump.
If you agree to this challange, the car will be put back on the same Dyno Dynamics rolling road to compare results.
I would like as close to 450hp with full fuel to 6500rpm.
wayne
10-20-2011, 04:50 AM
#2
dieselmeken
10-20-2011, 04:50 AM #2The challange is accepted. I Will do My very best. We Will se how much i can take out from The tomnik 7,5mm plungers.
10-20-2011, 04:11 PM
#3
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This post was last modified: 10-20-2011, 04:11 PM by Captain America.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
10-20-2011, 04:11 PM #3Hahaha Mr. Meken makes me laugh!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
10-20-2011, 05:01 PM
#4
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
10-20-2011, 05:39 PM
#5
ok, you seem confident. I will pm you for details about sending pump over.
wayne
(10-20-2011, 05:01 PM)jeemu Nice to see what results you gothi,
yea its going to be interesting to see what happens here.
here is picture of my car, its not very pretty, will get some power first then worry about looks.
![[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA0MTMtMjAxMTA3MjctMjA1NS5qcGc.jpg]](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/utf-8BSU1HMDA0MTMtMjAxMTA3MjctMjA1NS5qcGc.jpg)
This post was last modified: 10-20-2011, 06:24 PM by mantahead.
hi,
ok, you seem confident. I will pm you for details about sending pump over.
wayne
(10-20-2011, 05:01 PM)jeemu Nice to see what results you gothi,
yea its going to be interesting to see what happens here.
here is picture of my car, its not very pretty, will get some power first then worry about looks.
10-23-2011, 04:00 PM
#8
(10-22-2011, 07:02 PM)MTUPower Can't really drive at night like that now can you?hi,
its a track car only, not used on the road. I left the drivers side lamp out to let air in and the passengers side lamp is still lying in the tyre wall at the drift track, lol.
10-30-2011, 12:05 PM
#9
7 mm element, retarded notch for late injection at low fuel was some of the options, A nice mynä element that I never have seen before. Probably custom made for mynä.
1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
dieselmeken
10-30-2011, 12:05 PM #9Today, Sunday I had a nice "mynä" 170cc pump up in the bench, also I dismantled it a bit, just to se what magic it was in it.
7 mm element, retarded notch for late injection at low fuel was some of the options, A nice mynä element that I never have seen before. Probably custom made for mynä.
1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
10-30-2011, 01:17 PM
#10
(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken Today, Sunday I had a nice "mynä" 170cc pump up in the bench, also I dismantled it a bit, just to se what magic it was in it.Do you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
7 mm element, retarded notch for late injection at low fuel was some of the options, A nice mynä element that I never have seen before. Probably custom made for mynä.
1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken Today, Sunday I had a nice "mynä" 170cc pump up in the bench, also I dismantled it a bit, just to se what magic it was in it.Do you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
7 mm element, retarded notch for late injection at low fuel was some of the options, A nice mynä element that I never have seen before. Probably custom made for mynä.
1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
10-30-2011, 08:39 PM
#11
(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
Lmao!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
10-30-2011, 08:39 PM #11(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
Lmao!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
10-31-2011, 01:29 AM
#12
(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken 1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
Hi Göran,
what is the benefit of your delivery valves?
More important than overall output should be the question how is the balance of these elements.
What you don't see on the bench is the end of delivery which is more important than max. delivery.
If you have the time to check end of delivery (in angle deg of pump) at let's say 3 or 4 rack positions that will tell useful informations.
This compared by a certain delivery (50, 70, 90 ccm) then you get rack position x mm, y mm and z mm with Mantahead's pump and we get to the point.
Cheers,
Tom
(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken 1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
Hi Göran,
what is the benefit of your delivery valves?
More important than overall output should be the question how is the balance of these elements.
What you don't see on the bench is the end of delivery which is more important than max. delivery.
If you have the time to check end of delivery (in angle deg of pump) at let's say 3 or 4 rack positions that will tell useful informations.
This compared by a certain delivery (50, 70, 90 ccm) then you get rack position x mm, y mm and z mm with Mantahead's pump and we get to the point.
Cheers,
Tom
10-31-2011, 01:35 AM
#13
[/quote]Do you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
[/quote]
Sorry Jeemu, I dont understand what you mean with that topic.
Can you be more precise?
dieselmeken
10-31-2011, 01:35 AM #13
[/quote]Do you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
[/quote]
Sorry Jeemu, I dont understand what you mean with that topic.
Can you be more precise?
10-31-2011, 09:13 AM
#14
A nice pump was it.
The car in the clip is not with mynäpump, that one is my testcar/engine with a completly different pump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-c9MQ6G6Y
dieselmeken
10-31-2011, 09:13 AM #14 a small clip from the "mynärun" in my testbench. Note that the pump gives 160cc in this setup, that is because the adjuster on the outside not did give 100% throttle. If I push the rack by hand, the pump deliver 170cc.
A nice pump was it.
The car in the clip is not with mynäpump, that one is my testcar/engine with a completly different pump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-c9MQ6G6Y
10-31-2011, 12:38 PM
#15
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
10-31-2011, 12:38 PM #15i need that!!! o.0
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
10-31-2011, 01:45 PM
#16
No other benefit than a lot of fuel. We have had this discussion earlyer in another topic.
Some of my customers want to have a lot of fuel, They dont understand the meaning of 120,170cc etc. As I wrote in this topic, no one can build a 606 engine that can burn that amount of fuel,
(10-31-2011, 01:29 AM)tomnik(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken 1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
Hi Göran,
what is the benefit of your delivery valves?
More important than overall output should be the question how is the balance of these elements.
What you don't see on the bench is the end of delivery which is more important than max. delivery.
If you have the time to check end of delivery (in angle deg of pump) at let's say 3 or 4 rack positions that will tell useful informations.
This compared by a certain delivery (50, 70, 90 ccm) then you get rack position x mm, y mm and z mm with Mantahead's pump and we get to the point.
Cheers,
Tom
dieselmeken
10-31-2011, 01:45 PM #16Hi Tom.
No other benefit than a lot of fuel. We have had this discussion earlyer in another topic.
Some of my customers want to have a lot of fuel, They dont understand the meaning of 120,170cc etc. As I wrote in this topic, no one can build a 606 engine that can burn that amount of fuel,
(10-31-2011, 01:29 AM)tomnik(10-30-2011, 12:05 PM)dieselmeken 1000 rpm @19,5mm rack app 170cc. with standard delivery valves.This pump was set to give 120cc with the outside adjuster that they have.
I did a small test and put in my deliveryvalves that are special, and ops! 200cc.
However, There is no one that can build a 606 engine that can burn up 200 cc clean, I think 150-160 is good for 600hp if someone can control it.
mantaheads pump is one its way, I keep you informed in this topic
Hi Göran,
what is the benefit of your delivery valves?
More important than overall output should be the question how is the balance of these elements.
What you don't see on the bench is the end of delivery which is more important than max. delivery.
If you have the time to check end of delivery (in angle deg of pump) at let's say 3 or 4 rack positions that will tell useful informations.
This compared by a certain delivery (50, 70, 90 ccm) then you get rack position x mm, y mm and z mm with Mantahead's pump and we get to the point.
Cheers,
Tom
11-02-2011, 03:12 AM
#17
There I will read off the values, and after that the pump goes to pieces for modification after mantaheads wishes.
dieselmeken
11-02-2011, 03:12 AM #17The challange starts today Wednesday. Pump has arriwed and I start with cleaning it up before it goes up in the Bosch 711KMM Testbench.
There I will read off the values, and after that the pump goes to pieces for modification after mantaheads wishes.
11-02-2011, 07:38 AM
#18
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-02-2011, 07:38 AM #18WWWOOOOO!!! lol
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
11-02-2011, 10:27 AM
#19
The pump is in pieces now
The Floyd 7,5 mm has gone bananas inside the ppump, there was som small intersection on the plungers, picture of that later on.
Usually this comes from contaminated fuel.
However, this is all from me for the moment, Now I have a Deutz V8 680HP Boschpump that need my attention for some hours
dieselmeken
11-02-2011, 10:27 AM #19There is nothing wrong with elementswapping DIY, But this can be the result.
The pump is in pieces now
The Floyd 7,5 mm has gone bananas inside the ppump, there was som small intersection on the plungers, picture of that later on.
Usually this comes from contaminated fuel.
However, this is all from me for the moment, Now I have a Deutz V8 680HP Boschpump that need my attention for some hours
11-02-2011, 11:21 PM
#22
(11-02-2011, 10:27 AM)dieselmeken The Floyd 7,5 mm has gone bananas inside the ppump, there was som small intersection on the plungers, picture of that later on.
Can you restate that? What do you mean by intersection? Elements were scored?
Also about your DV, is this for stock IP's as well?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(11-02-2011, 10:27 AM)dieselmeken The Floyd 7,5 mm has gone bananas inside the ppump, there was som small intersection on the plungers, picture of that later on.
Can you restate that? What do you mean by intersection? Elements were scored?
Also about your DV, is this for stock IP's as well?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
11-02-2011, 11:56 PM
#23
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-02-2011, 11:56 PM #23As interesting as reading about IP's has been, Im still a little confused about some of the numbers and nomenclature and what not, and was wondering if anybody has a diagram or schematic or something of one of these pumps?
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
11-03-2011, 12:56 AM
#24
(11-02-2011, 11:21 PM)winmutt(11-02-2011, 10:27 AM)dieselmeken The Floyd 7,5 mm has gone bananas inside the ppump, there was som small intersection on the plungers, picture of that later on.
Can you restate that? What do you mean by intersection? Elements were scored?
Also about your DV, is this for stock IP's as well?
Yes scored maybee The right word. Got it from google translator. Yes dlv valve is stock. Pump did give 110@1000rpm. Picture shows fuelcutoff. I have à filmclip of the balance. I Will show it when pump is ok again. The Floyd are under reconstruction for maxperformance. Tomnik Will probably kill me when he se what i do to his element.
dieselmeken
11-03-2011, 12:56 AM #24(11-02-2011, 11:21 PM)winmutt(11-02-2011, 10:27 AM)dieselmeken The Floyd 7,5 mm has gone bananas inside the ppump, there was som small intersection on the plungers, picture of that later on.
Can you restate that? What do you mean by intersection? Elements were scored?
Also about your DV, is this for stock IP's as well?
Yes scored maybee The right word. Got it from google translator. Yes dlv valve is stock. Pump did give 110@1000rpm. Picture shows fuelcutoff. I have à filmclip of the balance. I Will show it when pump is ok again. The Floyd are under reconstruction for maxperformance. Tomnik Will probably kill me when he se what i do to his element.
11-03-2011, 01:24 AM
#25
are the Floyds yellow now?
The only damage I can imagine is scratch when the plunger was out and is inserted by raw force in combination with dirt this works even better.
But as the pump worked more or less after (sorry Wayne) garage installation it can't be too bad.
I am really excited what Göran will change on the geometry...
Tom
OMG!
are the Floyds yellow now?
The only damage I can imagine is scratch when the plunger was out and is inserted by raw force in combination with dirt this works even better.
But as the pump worked more or less after (sorry Wayne) garage installation it can't be too bad.
I am really excited what Göran will change on the geometry...
Tom
11-03-2011, 03:26 AM
#26
(11-03-2011, 01:24 AM)tomnik OMG!hi,elements where not forced or abused when I fitted them
are the Floyds yellow now?
The only damage I can imagine is scratch when the plunger was out and is inserted by raw force in combination with dirt this works even better.
But as the pump worked more or less after (sorry Wayne) garage installation it can't be too bad.
I am really excited what Göran will change on the geometry...
Tom
Wayne
(11-03-2011, 01:24 AM)tomnik OMG!hi,elements where not forced or abused when I fitted them
are the Floyds yellow now?
The only damage I can imagine is scratch when the plunger was out and is inserted by raw force in combination with dirt this works even better.
But as the pump worked more or less after (sorry Wayne) garage installation it can't be too bad.
I am really excited what Göran will change on the geometry...
Tom
Wayne
11-03-2011, 08:43 AM
#27
This is not from mounting, this is from contaminated fuel
dieselmeken
11-03-2011, 08:43 AM #27This is the backside of the element, you can see the scratches or whatever you prefer to call them.
This is not from mounting, this is from contaminated fuel
11-03-2011, 10:17 AM
#29
(11-03-2011, 09:19 AM)tomnik does it run smoothly in the barrel at all rotation positions?
Is this one single element damaged only?
If not, are all damaged on the same position?
Tom
Yes it floats nice, no problem there. All 5 elements looks the same, however the helix is not damaged and therefor I just polish the plunger up a bit after my small modification.
dieselmeken
11-03-2011, 10:17 AM #29(11-03-2011, 09:19 AM)tomnik does it run smoothly in the barrel at all rotation positions?
Is this one single element damaged only?
If not, are all damaged on the same position?
Tom
Yes it floats nice, no problem there. All 5 elements looks the same, however the helix is not damaged and therefor I just polish the plunger up a bit after my small modification.
11-03-2011, 11:04 AM
#30
(11-02-2011, 11:56 PM)sassparilla_kid As interesting as reading about IP's has been, Im still a little confused about some of the numbers and nomenclature and what not, and was wondering if anybody has a diagram or schematic or something of one of these pumps?
Try the IP threads
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...hp?tid=189
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=2770
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-03-2011, 11:04 AM #30(11-02-2011, 11:56 PM)sassparilla_kid As interesting as reading about IP's has been, Im still a little confused about some of the numbers and nomenclature and what not, and was wondering if anybody has a diagram or schematic or something of one of these pumps?
Try the IP threads
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...hp?tid=189
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=2770
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-03-2011, 02:50 PM
#31
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-03-2011, 02:50 PM #31Yeah I looked at those diagrams and they seemed okay, I guess if I finish reading the pump theory write-up they might make more sense lol
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
11-04-2011, 11:13 AM
#32
(11-03-2011, 02:50 PM)sassparilla_kid Yeah I looked at those diagrams and they seemed okay, I guess if I finish reading the pump theory write-up they might make more sense lol
Yeah, the theory is an awesome write up and cured my worries about working on one.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-04-2011, 11:13 AM #32(11-03-2011, 02:50 PM)sassparilla_kid Yeah I looked at those diagrams and they seemed okay, I guess if I finish reading the pump theory write-up they might make more sense lol
Yeah, the theory is an awesome write up and cured my worries about working on one.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-04-2011, 03:45 PM
#33
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Sorry Jeemu, I dont understand what you mean with that topic.
Can you be more precise?
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Hi. How much fuel i can got spray on the sylinder on 7mm IP?
If we say at 7mm pump give 250cc on your test pench.
Do you think at it has enough time to go to engine sylinder and have time enough to burn?
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
Do you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
[/quote]
Sorry Jeemu, I dont understand what you mean with that topic.
Can you be more precise?
[/quote]
Hi. How much fuel i can got spray on the sylinder on 7mm IP?
If we say at 7mm pump give 250cc on your test pench.
Do you think at it has enough time to go to engine sylinder and have time enough to burn?
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
11-05-2011, 05:05 AM
#34
(11-04-2011, 03:45 PM)jeemu(10-31-2011, 01:35 AM)dieselmekenDo you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
Sorry Jeemu, I dont understand what you mean with that topic.
Can you be more precise?
[/quote]
Hi. How much fuel i can got spray on the sylinder on 7mm IP?
If we say at 7mm pump give 250cc on your test pench.
Do you think at it has enough time to go to engine sylinder and have time enough to burn?
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I dont know, it´s quite a lot of fuel and a small plunger, so the injection time will be very long. It also depend how the camshaft is grinded. Some of the pullingpumps I have had, has a "fast" camshaft, that is the lift is from 0 to max camlift in only a couple of degrees.
dieselmeken
11-05-2011, 05:05 AM #34(11-04-2011, 03:45 PM)jeemu(10-31-2011, 01:35 AM)dieselmekenDo you know how much go to sylinder on 7mm?
Sorry Jeemu, I dont understand what you mean with that topic.
Can you be more precise?
[/quote]
Hi. How much fuel i can got spray on the sylinder on 7mm IP?
If we say at 7mm pump give 250cc on your test pench.
Do you think at it has enough time to go to engine sylinder and have time enough to burn?
[/quote]
I dont know, it´s quite a lot of fuel and a small plunger, so the injection time will be very long. It also depend how the camshaft is grinded. Some of the pullingpumps I have had, has a "fast" camshaft, that is the lift is from 0 to max camlift in only a couple of degrees.
11-09-2011, 10:11 AM
#36
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-09-2011, 10:11 AM #36WOOOOO!! *eagerly awaits vids or dyno sheets or something awesome*
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
11-09-2011, 05:24 PM
#37
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-09-2011, 05:24 PM #37^^^ +1
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
11-10-2011, 06:55 AM
#38
If you dont like it, write that also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nZCpvrkjk
dieselmeken
11-10-2011, 06:55 AM #38Here is a clip that I have done only for this challange. If you have 9min 30sec over and find this intresting, please write a small comment here or on my youtubechannel.
If you dont like it, write that also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nZCpvrkjk
11-10-2011, 07:39 AM
#39
(11-10-2011, 06:55 AM)dieselmeken Here is a clip that I have done only for this challange. If you have 9min 30sec over and find this intresting, please write a small comment here or on my youtubechannel.
If you dont like it, write that also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nZCpvrkjk
Göran,
nice video.
seems that the elements are still o.k.
Does the lightened fly weights have any influence on the behaviour of the pump in sense of driveability?
You should somehow point out that this pump is an engine killer for most people and that Wayne uses this pump only for his track car.
Tom
(11-10-2011, 06:55 AM)dieselmeken Here is a clip that I have done only for this challange. If you have 9min 30sec over and find this intresting, please write a small comment here or on my youtubechannel.
If you dont like it, write that also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nZCpvrkjk
Göran,
nice video.
seems that the elements are still o.k.
Does the lightened fly weights have any influence on the behaviour of the pump in sense of driveability?
You should somehow point out that this pump is an engine killer for most people and that Wayne uses this pump only for his track car.
Tom
11-10-2011, 08:48 AM
#40
The drivability is probably the worst ever, As i explain in the clip, the governor is lighnted a lot, that will maybee give some "hunting" on low idle, I dont know, Wayne has to try it out. When pump is on low idle and 7 mm of rack, and I put the rews down, the rack shall come forward of the weights 4-5 mm, thats for not stalling the engine, this pump do only 2-3 mm because of the lighnted weight
/Göran
(11-10-2011, 07:39 AM)tomnik(11-10-2011, 06:55 AM)dieselmeken Here is a clip that I have done only for this challange. If you have 9min 30sec over and find this intresting, please write a small comment here or on my youtubechannel.
If you dont like it, write that also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nZCpvrkjk
Göran,
nice video.
seems that the elements are still o.k.
Does the lightened fly weights have any influence on the behaviour of the pump in sense of driveability?
You should somehow point out that this pump is an engine killer for most people and that Wayne uses this pump only for his track car.
Tom
dieselmeken
11-10-2011, 08:48 AM #40Yes i should, You just did it.
The drivability is probably the worst ever, As i explain in the clip, the governor is lighnted a lot, that will maybee give some "hunting" on low idle, I dont know, Wayne has to try it out. When pump is on low idle and 7 mm of rack, and I put the rews down, the rack shall come forward of the weights 4-5 mm, thats for not stalling the engine, this pump do only 2-3 mm because of the lighnted weight
/Göran
(11-10-2011, 07:39 AM)tomnik(11-10-2011, 06:55 AM)dieselmeken Here is a clip that I have done only for this challange. If you have 9min 30sec over and find this intresting, please write a small comment here or on my youtubechannel.
If you dont like it, write that also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nZCpvrkjk
Göran,
nice video.
seems that the elements are still o.k.
Does the lightened fly weights have any influence on the behaviour of the pump in sense of driveability?
You should somehow point out that this pump is an engine killer for most people and that Wayne uses this pump only for his track car.
Tom
11-10-2011, 09:39 AM
#42
Wayne will have it next week and he has promised me to put the car in dyno as soon as he can.
Göran
(11-10-2011, 09:27 AM)tomnik will the pump go back to Wayne for the dyno or do you "test" it before?
Tom
dieselmeken
11-10-2011, 09:39 AM #42No Tom, I dont have any 605 engine to test it on, I leaves Sweden today 11-11-10 for Norten Irland.
Wayne will have it next week and he has promised me to put the car in dyno as soon as he can.
Göran
(11-10-2011, 09:27 AM)tomnik will the pump go back to Wayne for the dyno or do you "test" it before?
Tom
11-10-2011, 04:47 PM
#43
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-10-2011, 04:47 PM #43good video! I cant wait until we can send our pumps to you.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
11-10-2011, 06:25 PM
#45
(11-10-2011, 09:39 AM)dieselmeken No Tom, I dont have any 605 engine to test it on, I leaves Sweden today 11-11-10 for Norten Irland.hi,
Wayne will have it next week and he has promised me to put the car in dyno as soon as he can.
Göran
nice one, good work, can't believe i have not seen this yet. Having some connection problems with internet. I'm away to watch all the video.
wayne
I'm watching out for the postman lol
(11-10-2011, 09:39 AM)dieselmeken No Tom, I dont have any 605 engine to test it on, I leaves Sweden today 11-11-10 for Norten Irland.hi,
Wayne will have it next week and he has promised me to put the car in dyno as soon as he can.
Göran
nice one, good work, can't believe i have not seen this yet. Having some connection problems with internet. I'm away to watch all the video.
wayne
I'm watching out for the postman lol
11-11-2011, 05:43 PM
#49
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-11-2011, 05:43 PM #49This is exciting!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-11-2011, 06:53 PM
#50
(11-11-2011, 05:43 PM)Captain America This is exciting!
Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
11-11-2011, 06:53 PM #50(11-11-2011, 05:43 PM)Captain America This is exciting!
Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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