A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!!
A CHALLANGE FOR DIESELMEKEN !!!
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-11-2011, 07:44 PM #51YEA! that would be so awesome to have an STD meet at his place
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
(11-11-2011, 06:53 PM)DeliveryValve(11-11-2011, 05:43 PM)Captain America This is exciting!
Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
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most definitely! Need to get some 617 pumps going!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-11-2011, 10:09 PM #52(11-11-2011, 06:53 PM)DeliveryValve(11-11-2011, 05:43 PM)Captain America This is exciting!
Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
.
most definitely! Need to get some 617 pumps going!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
I was planning a trip to the USA last year, but we ended up in Thailand with my whole family.
My little wife, Eva & myself will do this trip soon, dont know when, but its going to happend sometime. the plan is San Fransisco-LA -Las Vegas _ LA- Hawaii- home. Is 3 weeks enough? If someone of you need a pump an lives there, can we make a switch? I fix the pump, You lend me the car?
For those who are intrested I can say that the shippingcost of one pump from Sweden to Irland is 40 euro with DHL Ecomnomyclass or whatever it was.
I have a customnumber there, sending all my pumps in Sweden with DHL, the are the cheepest so far.
(11-11-2011, 10:09 PM)Captain America(11-11-2011, 06:53 PM)DeliveryValve(11-11-2011, 05:43 PM)Captain America This is exciting!
Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
.
most definitely! Need to get some 617 pumps going!
dieselmeken
11-12-2011, 11:15 AM #53You are all welcome to a GTG at my workshop, however it will be a long trip for you all.
I was planning a trip to the USA last year, but we ended up in Thailand with my whole family.
My little wife, Eva & myself will do this trip soon, dont know when, but its going to happend sometime. the plan is San Fransisco-LA -Las Vegas _ LA- Hawaii- home. Is 3 weeks enough? If someone of you need a pump an lives there, can we make a switch? I fix the pump, You lend me the car?
For those who are intrested I can say that the shippingcost of one pump from Sweden to Irland is 40 euro with DHL Ecomnomyclass or whatever it was.
I have a customnumber there, sending all my pumps in Sweden with DHL, the are the cheepest so far.
(11-11-2011, 10:09 PM)Captain America(11-11-2011, 06:53 PM)DeliveryValve(11-11-2011, 05:43 PM)Captain America This is exciting!
Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
.
most definitely! Need to get some 617 pumps going!
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-12-2011, 07:51 PM #5440 euros is alot less than I thought it would be to ship a pump to sweden. Too bad I dont live on the west coast lol. it would be cool to meet you.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-13-2011, 12:18 AM #55I live 50 miles from LA! Would be more than willing to lend you my car!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-13-2011, 02:15 AM #56I live less than 3 hours from San Francisco, and less than 5 hours from LA, probably the only good thing about living in fresno is that it is right in the very middle of the state lol
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
(11-12-2011, 11:15 AM)dieselmeken You are all welcome to a GTG at my workshop, however it will be a long trip for you all.hi,
I was planning a trip to the USA last year, but we ended up in Thailand with my whole family.
My little wife, Eva & myself will do this trip soon, dont know when, but its going to happend sometime. the plan is San Fransisco-LA -Las Vegas _ LA- Hawaii- home. Is 3 weeks enough? If someone of you need a pump an lives there, can we make a switch? I fix the pump, You lend me the car?
For those who are intrested I can say that the shippingcost of one pump from Sweden to Irland is 40 euro with DHL Ecomnomyclass or whatever it was.
I have a customnumber there, sending all my pumps in Sweden with DHL, the are the cheepest so far.
(11-11-2011, 10:09 PM)Captain America(11-11-2011, 06:53 PM)DeliveryValve Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
.
most definitely! Need to get some 617 pumps going!
if you ever decide to come to Ireland on holiday i will lend you my car.
wayne
(11-12-2011, 11:15 AM)dieselmeken You are all welcome to a GTG at my workshop, however it will be a long trip for you all.hi,
I was planning a trip to the USA last year, but we ended up in Thailand with my whole family.
My little wife, Eva & myself will do this trip soon, dont know when, but its going to happend sometime. the plan is San Fransisco-LA -Las Vegas _ LA- Hawaii- home. Is 3 weeks enough? If someone of you need a pump an lives there, can we make a switch? I fix the pump, You lend me the car?
For those who are intrested I can say that the shippingcost of one pump from Sweden to Irland is 40 euro with DHL Ecomnomyclass or whatever it was.
I have a customnumber there, sending all my pumps in Sweden with DHL, the are the cheepest so far.
(11-11-2011, 10:09 PM)Captain America(11-11-2011, 06:53 PM)DeliveryValve Damn exciting! I wish he was stateside! We'd all have a GTG at his shop!
.
most definitely! Need to get some 617 pumps going!
if you ever decide to come to Ireland on holiday i will lend you my car.
wayne
![[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA2MTItMjAxMTExMTUtMTgyOS5qcGc.jpg]](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/utf-8BSU1HMDA2MTItMjAxMTExMTUtMTgyOS5qcGc.jpg)
over 2400 wiews in this topic now tells me there is a intrest in this challange
And a 5 star raiting
Now I and sure some more from over there waiting to hear the sound.
Come back to me when you have fired the engine up and done some testing.
Pretty fast delivery for 40 euro, dont you think so?
dieselmeken
11-15-2011, 03:34 PM #59
over 2400 wiews in this topic now tells me there is a intrest in this challange
And a 5 star raiting
Now I and sure some more from over there waiting to hear the sound.
Come back to me when you have fired the engine up and done some testing.
Pretty fast delivery for 40 euro, dont you think so?
(11-15-2011, 03:34 PM)dieselmeken
over 2400 wiews in this topic now tells me there is a intrest in this challange
And a 5 star raiting
Now I and sure some more from over there waiting to hear the sound.
Come back to me when you have fired the engine up and done some testing.
Pretty fast delivery for 40 euro, dont you think so?
I voted it 5 stars! I think I was the first
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-15-2011, 05:18 PM #61(11-15-2011, 03:34 PM)dieselmeken
over 2400 wiews in this topic now tells me there is a intrest in this challange
And a 5 star raiting
Now I and sure some more from over there waiting to hear the sound.
Come back to me when you have fired the engine up and done some testing.
Pretty fast delivery for 40 euro, dont you think so?
I voted it 5 stars! I think I was the first
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
gonna be awesome
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-15-2011, 06:24 PM #63OMG! im so stoked! and man thats a beautiful pump gonna be awesome
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-16-2011, 12:53 AM #64That thing looks awesome, I think I need to get one now lol
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
11-16-2011, 01:20 AM #65intrest, yhus. now lets get these pumps out the door.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
8 votes, 4,5 out of 5 stars, come on and vote now. ( who is NOT intrested in this?)
dieselmeken
11-16-2011, 12:59 PM #66waiting waiting waiting.................
8 votes, 4,5 out of 5 stars, come on and vote now. ( who is NOT intrested in this?)
When do you expect the 603 pumps to be available? You should start collecting them right now because I imagine most of us will want to keep our stock pumps...at least that is how I plan on doing mine ;-)
jonbobshinigin
11-16-2011, 02:01 PM #67You are really giving us some good insight and understanding of what all is involved in tuning these pumps. I guess other tuners are concerned about losing business from sharing the data, but after seeing these clips, I doubt I would ever try it myself.
When do you expect the 603 pumps to be available? You should start collecting them right now because I imagine most of us will want to keep our stock pumps...at least that is how I plan on doing mine ;-)
I have most definitely have a w123 for you and the family Mr. Dieselmeken! I am the most Southern of all these west coast guys but there is one here for you!
if it don’t blow black...take it back.
1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty
The VEGEWGN
the plan is San Fransisco-LA -Las Vegas _ LA- Hawaii- home. Is 3 weeks enough? If someone of you need a pump an lives there, can we make a switch? I fix the pump, You lend me the car?
I have most definitely have a w123 for you and the family Mr. Dieselmeken! I am the most Southern of all these west coast guys but there is one here for you!
if it don’t blow black...take it back.
1982 300TDT 4 Speed 196K Standard Beige “VEGEWGN”. 300GD FW. Walbro FRC-8 Fuel Pump. ZadaTech LCD Boost, EGT, & Fuel Pressure gauge. Non-EGR Exhaust and Intake Manifold. 3/2 Valves gone. Soon to have Elsbett WVO conversion
1981 300D 314K Midnight Blue “The Blue Car”, Lovecrap system, owned 25 years+
1985 300TD White 198K “Betty White” Pure beauty
The VEGEWGN
It pulls well on dyno, saw 3 bar of boost, never done that before
It was actually spinning the tyres on dyno when it came on boost, the lads never seen that before.
Now some small adjustments are to be made, Mantahead & myself will come back when it works out the way it was ment to bee.
dieselmeken
11-17-2011, 03:47 AM #70A small teaser here from a pm from mantahead.
It pulls well on dyno, saw 3 bar of boost, never done that before
It was actually spinning the tyres on dyno when it came on boost, the lads never seen that before.
Now some small adjustments are to be made, Mantahead & myself will come back when it works out the way it was ment to bee.
(11-17-2011, 06:59 AM)Palmer(11-17-2011, 05:17 AM)hansebanger77 wow 3 bar boost
Well he was running 2.7 before and tramped on it all day at drift tracks / events so im guessing alllllll day!
then I should turn the screw for fuel
have much in reserve. I can hardly restrain myself. But the risk that again everything flies into the air ... : D so much work again....
but still great work to Mr. Dieselmeken!! good job!
and good luck to Mantahead for some adjustments!
hansebanger77
11-17-2011, 11:40 AM #73(11-17-2011, 06:59 AM)Palmer(11-17-2011, 05:17 AM)hansebanger77 wow 3 bar boost
Well he was running 2.7 before and tramped on it all day at drift tracks / events so im guessing alllllll day!
then I should turn the screw for fuel
have much in reserve. I can hardly restrain myself. But the risk that again everything flies into the air ... : D so much work again....
but still great work to Mr. Dieselmeken!! good job!
and good luck to Mantahead for some adjustments!
i have been very busy at work so have not had a lot of time at the merc.
Got the pump fitted and went to the dyno.
Dieselmeken 1
Electronic pump 0
He has won the challange, today we saw more power than the electronic pump and with a very long power band.
I have still a timing problem so i should see more power.
I don't want to post any results up yet as i'm not finished testing on the dyno.
When i get the results you all will be the first to know.
I promise a video and results.
wayne
hi,
i have been very busy at work so have not had a lot of time at the merc.
Got the pump fitted and went to the dyno.
Dieselmeken 1
Electronic pump 0
He has won the challange, today we saw more power than the electronic pump and with a very long power band.
I have still a timing problem so i should see more power.
I don't want to post any results up yet as i'm not finished testing on the dyno.
When i get the results you all will be the first to know.
I promise a video and results.
wayne
(11-17-2011, 03:36 PM)mantahead hi,also,
i have been very busy at work so have not had a lot of time at the merc.
Got the pump fitted and went to the dyno.
Dieselmeken 1
Electronic pump 0
He has won the challange, today we saw more power than the electronic pump and with a very long power band.
I have still a timing problem so i should see more power.
I don't want to post any results up yet as i'm not finished testing on the dyno.
When i get the results you all will be the first to know.
I promise a video and results.
wayne
thanks to ELITE MOTOR PERFORMANCE in Armagh for the use of the Dyno Dynamics rolling road.
(11-17-2011, 03:36 PM)mantahead hi,also,
i have been very busy at work so have not had a lot of time at the merc.
Got the pump fitted and went to the dyno.
Dieselmeken 1
Electronic pump 0
He has won the challange, today we saw more power than the electronic pump and with a very long power band.
I have still a timing problem so i should see more power.
I don't want to post any results up yet as i'm not finished testing on the dyno.
When i get the results you all will be the first to know.
I promise a video and results.
wayne
thanks to ELITE MOTOR PERFORMANCE in Armagh for the use of the Dyno Dynamics rolling road.
no videos yet but i will sort that out.
I have been working with timing and adjusting and checking on dyno etc.
Max power was made today
![[Image: utf-8BSU1HMDA2MjItMjAxMTExMTgtMjEzNC5qcGc.jpg]](http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/mantahead1/utf-8BSU1HMDA2MjItMjAxMTExMTgtMjEzNC5qcGc.jpg)
The 370hp run is from the electronic pump.
The 385hp is from the challange pump (dieselmeken tuned pump)
The 383hp is from the challange pump which i pushed the rev limit to show how it still supplys diesel to 6600rpm
Congratulations to Dieselmeken.
You will notice these dyno runs have different spool up from the first runs at the start of this thread. This is because the first graphs where based on half the exhaust housing blocked of and where running 2.7 bar.
I tried the challange pump with this setup and because of the extra fuel (and no wastegate) i saw 3.3 bar and the boost pipe hit the wall of the garage lol and wheel spin on the dyno.
So i unblocked the exhaust housing and compared results to the 370hp run i had from the electronic pump under the same conditions.
My restriction is my exhaust manifold which is a standard one modified. Think i have too much back pressure.
wayne
hi,
no videos yet but i will sort that out.
I have been working with timing and adjusting and checking on dyno etc.
Max power was made today
The 370hp run is from the electronic pump.
The 385hp is from the challange pump (dieselmeken tuned pump)
The 383hp is from the challange pump which i pushed the rev limit to show how it still supplys diesel to 6600rpm
Congratulations to Dieselmeken.
You will notice these dyno runs have different spool up from the first runs at the start of this thread. This is because the first graphs where based on half the exhaust housing blocked of and where running 2.7 bar.
I tried the challange pump with this setup and because of the extra fuel (and no wastegate) i saw 3.3 bar and the boost pipe hit the wall of the garage lol and wheel spin on the dyno.
So i unblocked the exhaust housing and compared results to the 370hp run i had from the electronic pump under the same conditions.
My restriction is my exhaust manifold which is a standard one modified. Think i have too much back pressure.
wayne
iheartboost
11-18-2011, 09:33 PM #78YAY!!
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
jonbobshinigin
11-18-2011, 10:35 PM #79So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
it seems that the air flow is o.k. up to 5300-5500, beyond that no extra air is possible and thus no extra power even there is fuel.
I wonder if it was necessary to reduce the fly weights for this current set up.
Is this car still drivable in traffic?
What was EGT?
Tom
Good job!
it seems that the air flow is o.k. up to 5300-5500, beyond that no extra air is possible and thus no extra power even there is fuel.
I wonder if it was necessary to reduce the fly weights for this current set up.
Is this car still drivable in traffic?
What was EGT?
Tom
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-19-2011, 02:28 AM #81That's awesome, if my car had half of that power I would be happy!!
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
I am the winner in this challange, hooray for me
You are all winners when you work with me, hooray for you
(11-18-2011, 10:35 PM)jonbobshinigin So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
dieselmeken
11-19-2011, 02:31 AM #82The tomnikelement are pushing max in this pump, no more to get there, Another type of element@ more fuel and the 450hp mark is possible.
I am the winner in this challange, hooray for me
You are all winners when you work with me, hooray for you
(11-18-2011, 10:35 PM)jonbobshinigin So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
Why that much boost? That power come easily less than 2bar boost.
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
i think my standard exhaust manifold is causing back pressure issues. I need to get a gauge and make a manifold. I am also waiting on a 12cm housing.
hi Jeemu, i was making this boost because i have no wastegate yet. I didn't really need one with electronic pump. The fact that i can make more boost must mean i have enough fuel.
What you think?
What power should hx35 make with standard engine and with how many cc of fuel?
I have experience with different dyno's and i know for a fact if i used inerita dyno like yours i would make over 400hp with this setup.
Let me know what you think as i know you have more knowledge on this than i have.
wayne
hi Tom,
i wanted the flyweights lightened for a longer power band, this is so much easier to drift. Even if this had less power than electronic pump it would be better with more revs.
Still drivable for me. Now that timing is right egt went to max of 650c.
Exhaust manifold is next, i read on here one time that stock manifold was only good for 300hp.
wayne
(11-19-2011, 12:40 AM)tomnik Good job!
it seems that the air flow is o.k. up to 5300-5500, beyond that no extra air is possible and thus no extra power even there is fuel.
I wonder if it was necessary to reduce the fly weights for this current set up.
Is this car still drivable in traffic?
What was EGT?
Tom
hi,
i think my standard exhaust manifold is causing back pressure issues. I need to get a gauge and make a manifold. I am also waiting on a 12cm housing.
hi Jeemu, i was making this boost because i have no wastegate yet. I didn't really need one with electronic pump. The fact that i can make more boost must mean i have enough fuel.
What you think?
What power should hx35 make with standard engine and with how many cc of fuel?
I have experience with different dyno's and i know for a fact if i used inerita dyno like yours i would make over 400hp with this setup.
Let me know what you think as i know you have more knowledge on this than i have.
wayne
hi Tom,
i wanted the flyweights lightened for a longer power band, this is so much easier to drift. Even if this had less power than electronic pump it would be better with more revs.
Still drivable for me. Now that timing is right egt went to max of 650c.
Exhaust manifold is next, i read on here one time that stock manifold was only good for 300hp.
wayne
(11-19-2011, 12:40 AM)tomnik Good job!
it seems that the air flow is o.k. up to 5300-5500, beyond that no extra air is possible and thus no extra power even there is fuel.
I wonder if it was necessary to reduce the fly weights for this current set up.
Is this car still drivable in traffic?
What was EGT?
Tom
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-19-2011, 02:06 PM #85I WANT DYNO RUNS! please
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
do you think that the pump ran out of fuel beyond 5500/min?
You should be able to answer this as you had the pump on the bench.
Where do you want to go with plunger diameter for more fuel?
Or do you want to increase duration further?
A good sign is that EGTs are still safe.
Tom
(11-19-2011, 02:31 AM)dieselmeken The tomnikelement are pushing max in this pump, no more to get there, Another type of element@ more fuel and the 450hp mark is possible.
I am the winner in this challange, hooray for me
You are all winners when you work with me, hooray for you
(11-18-2011, 10:35 PM)jonbobshinigin So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
Göran,
do you think that the pump ran out of fuel beyond 5500/min?
You should be able to answer this as you had the pump on the bench.
Where do you want to go with plunger diameter for more fuel?
Or do you want to increase duration further?
A good sign is that EGTs are still safe.
Tom
(11-19-2011, 02:31 AM)dieselmeken The tomnikelement are pushing max in this pump, no more to get there, Another type of element@ more fuel and the 450hp mark is possible.
I am the winner in this challange, hooray for me
You are all winners when you work with me, hooray for you
(11-18-2011, 10:35 PM)jonbobshinigin So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
(11-19-2011, 02:25 PM)tomnik Göran,
do you think that the pump ran out of fuel beyond 5500/min?
You should be able to answer this as you had the pump on the bench.
Where do you want to go with plunger diameter for more fuel?
Or do you want to increase duration further?
A good sign is that EGTs are still safe.
Tom
(11-19-2011, 02:31 AM)dieselmeken The tomnikelement are pushing max in this pump, no more to get there, Another type of element@ more fuel and the 450hp mark is possible.
I am the winner in this challange, hooray for me
You are all winners when you work with me, hooray for you
(11-18-2011, 10:35 PM)jonbobshinigin So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
dieselmeken
11-19-2011, 03:25 PM #87No, not diameter, a different barrel is the solution
(11-19-2011, 02:25 PM)tomnik Göran,
do you think that the pump ran out of fuel beyond 5500/min?
You should be able to answer this as you had the pump on the bench.
Where do you want to go with plunger diameter for more fuel?
Or do you want to increase duration further?
A good sign is that EGTs are still safe.
Tom
(11-19-2011, 02:31 AM)dieselmeken The tomnikelement are pushing max in this pump, no more to get there, Another type of element@ more fuel and the 450hp mark is possible.
I am the winner in this challange, hooray for me
You are all winners when you work with me, hooray for you
(11-18-2011, 10:35 PM)jonbobshinigin So what else is required for you to make it closer to the 450hp mark you were aiming for? Is it even possible on this platform?
so do you guys think i have a diesel problem or airflow?
I didn't think the standard engine was going to make max power any higher than 5500rpm. It would need cams and stronger valve springs etc.
Jeemu would be a good man to ask here. What you's think?
wayne
hi,
so do you guys think i have a diesel problem or airflow?
I didn't think the standard engine was going to make max power any higher than 5500rpm. It would need cams and stronger valve springs etc.
Jeemu would be a good man to ask here. What you's think?
wayne
(11-19-2011, 04:48 PM)mantahead hi,
so do you guys think i have a diesel problem or airflow?
I didn't think the standard engine was going to make max power any higher than 5500rpm. It would need cams and stronger valve springs etc.
Jeemu would be a good man to ask here. What you's think?
wayne
Hi,
we can see that something happens at 5500.
It is likely not the governor although it is not clear on the video.
An easy test is to install temporarily just a downpipe to reduce back pressure.
Another theory is that cams float, either in the engine itself or in the pump or even the elements can not be filled that fast.
Wayne, is the pump still on max. delivery adjustment as Göran had in the video?
Jeemu, what is your comment?
Tom
(11-19-2011, 04:48 PM)mantahead hi,
so do you guys think i have a diesel problem or airflow?
I didn't think the standard engine was going to make max power any higher than 5500rpm. It would need cams and stronger valve springs etc.
Jeemu would be a good man to ask here. What you's think?
wayne
Hi,
we can see that something happens at 5500.
It is likely not the governor although it is not clear on the video.
An easy test is to install temporarily just a downpipe to reduce back pressure.
Another theory is that cams float, either in the engine itself or in the pump or even the elements can not be filled that fast.
Wayne, is the pump still on max. delivery adjustment as Göran had in the video?
Jeemu, what is your comment?
Tom
Thanks for sharing your experience with us
My guess is that your stock manifold is the problem. You need to get the exhaust out of the cylinders. More fuel + boost means more exhaust but your manifold can't flow more when the revs go up. So please change that and nothing else. It will be very interesting to see the difference.
Hi Mantahead
Thanks for sharing your experience with us
My guess is that your stock manifold is the problem. You need to get the exhaust out of the cylinders. More fuel + boost means more exhaust but your manifold can't flow more when the revs go up. So please change that and nothing else. It will be very interesting to see the difference.
If we calculate a bit and playing with the idea that we have a pump that give you 170cc instead if the 150cc pump, you would end up in maybee 430hp, In theory that is, if it was a 606 engine 525hp, Is that bad?
If I give you 200cc God knows whats going to happens....
The 605 pump I did with 6 mm element, 120cc of fuel was 274hp, just as a comparison.
http://www.maxxtuning.se/kundbilar/effek...w123--jim/
But its not all about the fuel, thats important.
You wrote also that the bench did measure lower power than the others, I dont know the different between dynos, but in that case you must be very glad for this.
Now,up with som nice filmclip when you drifting, I want to hear the engine roar.
(11-19-2011, 04:48 PM)mantahead hi,
so do you guys think i have a diesel problem or airflow?
I didn't think the standard engine was going to make max power any higher than 5500rpm. It would need cams and stronger valve springs etc.
Jeemu would be a good man to ask here. What you's think?
wayne
dieselmeken
11-20-2011, 06:32 AM #91No Wayne, You dont have any problems, as long as you are satisfied thats ok for me. 385hp from 4500 to 6600 rpm, Not many that can beat that in a 605 engine. Its one thing to write down on a forum that my engine has so and so many hp, Another thing to show it with a dynoresult. Great job!
If we calculate a bit and playing with the idea that we have a pump that give you 170cc instead if the 150cc pump, you would end up in maybee 430hp, In theory that is, if it was a 606 engine 525hp, Is that bad?
If I give you 200cc God knows whats going to happens....
The 605 pump I did with 6 mm element, 120cc of fuel was 274hp, just as a comparison.
http://www.maxxtuning.se/kundbilar/effek...w123--jim/
But its not all about the fuel, thats important.
You wrote also that the bench did measure lower power than the others, I dont know the different between dynos, but in that case you must be very glad for this.
Now,up with som nice filmclip when you drifting, I want to hear the engine roar.
(11-19-2011, 04:48 PM)mantahead hi,
so do you guys think i have a diesel problem or airflow?
I didn't think the standard engine was going to make max power any higher than 5500rpm. It would need cams and stronger valve springs etc.
Jeemu would be a good man to ask here. What you's think?
wayne
In case it is limited air flow (exhaust) more ccm will not be the best solution.
ccm is about proportional with hp if you can burn the fuel.
According to my understanding the engine is fine up to 5500.
The easiest way to check is probably to install a short down pipe until your 200 ccm pump is available.
Tom
without any doubt the power is great but we try to understand what is happening at 5500.
In case it is limited air flow (exhaust) more ccm will not be the best solution.
ccm is about proportional with hp if you can burn the fuel.
According to my understanding the engine is fine up to 5500.
The easiest way to check is probably to install a short down pipe until your 200 ccm pump is available.
Tom
is it more on the 385hp run you see the problem, if so; i think my extraction system melted and closed over blocking the exhaust on this run.
Anyone any dyno graphs on completly standard om605 running this power or even more to compare results at 5500rpm???
wayne
(11-20-2011, 07:25 AM)tomnik without any doubt the power is great but we try to understand what is happening at 5500.
In case it is limited air flow (exhaust) more ccm will not be the best solution.
ccm is about proportional with hp if you can burn the fuel.
According to my understanding the engine is fine up to 5500.
The easiest way to check is probably to install a short down pipe until your 200 ccm pump is available.
Tom
hi Tom,
is it more on the 385hp run you see the problem, if so; i think my extraction system melted and closed over blocking the exhaust on this run.
Anyone any dyno graphs on completly standard om605 running this power or even more to compare results at 5500rpm???
wayne
(11-20-2011, 07:25 AM)tomnik without any doubt the power is great but we try to understand what is happening at 5500.
In case it is limited air flow (exhaust) more ccm will not be the best solution.
ccm is about proportional with hp if you can burn the fuel.
According to my understanding the engine is fine up to 5500.
The easiest way to check is probably to install a short down pipe until your 200 ccm pump is available.
Tom
The settings this pump is set up with, and top operating speeds are way outside what the DVs were calibrated for. Just a thought.
Something to also consider is if the Delivery valves are floating at such high delivery quantities and speeds. If they can't keep up, the injection stability, (timing, quantity, and quality), would be affected.
The settings this pump is set up with, and top operating speeds are way outside what the DVs were calibrated for. Just a thought.
What kind lift pump? Measured pressure?
Throw that original ex manifold on the river and make better one
You can "feel" if there is too much backpressure No gauge needed
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
How much ip give fuel?
What kind lift pump? Measured pressure?
Throw that original ex manifold on the river and make better one
You can "feel" if there is too much backpressure No gauge needed
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
(11-20-2011, 03:57 PM)jeemu How much ip give fuel?hi,
What kind lift pump? Measured pressure?
Throw that original ex manifold on the river and make better one
You can "feel" if there is too much backpressure No gauge needed
i think it was 158cc fuel
Electric inline pump, 2.5 bar pressure, 12mm fuel lines to tank.
Filter housing of a truck with twin filters.
yea man i'm going to make manifold very soon. would you recommend a log type manifold or not?
wayne
(11-20-2011, 03:57 PM)jeemu How much ip give fuel?hi,
What kind lift pump? Measured pressure?
Throw that original ex manifold on the river and make better one
You can "feel" if there is too much backpressure No gauge needed
i think it was 158cc fuel
Electric inline pump, 2.5 bar pressure, 12mm fuel lines to tank.
Filter housing of a truck with twin filters.
yea man i'm going to make manifold very soon. would you recommend a log type manifold or not?
wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GITi-n9ZTU
a small video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GITi-n9ZTU
is this still auto or is it a manual?
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-20-2011, 06:25 PM #100YEAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
is this still auto or is it a manual?
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
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