California smog laws
California smog laws
01-31-2012, 01:44 AM
#1
Thanks y'all!!
This post was last modified: 01-31-2012, 01:45 AM by sassparilla_kid.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-31-2012, 01:44 AM #1Okay I have thought about this for a while and can't seem to find any answers so I thought I would ask all the knowledgable folks here. I have an '84 Ford Ranger sitting in my back yard, and I also have a spare '79 w123 240D with low miles (body beat to shit), and I was wondering what, if any legal issues there would be if I swapped the mercedes engine into the ford. I know diesels dont have to be smogged but are there laws that say you cant swap older diesel engines into newer vehicles? I think it would be pretty awesome to have a small diesel pickup
Thanks y'all!!
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
01-31-2012, 05:52 AM
#2
Ed
yankneck696
01-31-2012, 05:52 AM #2I believe that you must swap in a like or newer year engine, till it's 25 years old. Go to your DMV & get their rules.
Ed
01-31-2012, 11:54 AM
#3
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
01-31-2012, 11:54 AM #3I second what yankneck said
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
01-31-2012, 12:07 PM
#4
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
01-31-2012, 12:07 PM #4Didn't they make disel rangers back in the day?
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
01-31-2012, 04:30 PM
#5
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-31-2012, 04:30 PM #5Okay I know someone who works at DMV, unfortunately she is very reclusive so its hard getting ahold of her, but at least I know where she lives lol
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
01-31-2012, 05:27 PM
#6
Check the CA dmv website. Im doing the same type of thing, and ill be free and clear with my 89 van in a little less than a year. Then it only needs safety inspections, and no longer has emissions, then I can put whatever the hell I want in the van, as long as it meets safety. Could be a steam boiler, and they would pass it
How long does CA do emissions, is there a cutoff point? or do they check any vehicle for emissions regardless of year based on the model requirements of the build year?
You need to go creep out this woman who works at DMV. Is she cute? or shaped like a troll like most of those angry DMV people. If shes not cute, then all you have to do is bring her some fresh bones so she can grind them to make bread.
This post was last modified: 01-31-2012, 05:29 PM by JB3.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
84 you should be good as far as federal, plus like said above, rangers came with a mazda 4cyl diesel back in the day as a option. Think that year range
Check the CA dmv website. Im doing the same type of thing, and ill be free and clear with my 89 van in a little less than a year. Then it only needs safety inspections, and no longer has emissions, then I can put whatever the hell I want in the van, as long as it meets safety. Could be a steam boiler, and they would pass it
How long does CA do emissions, is there a cutoff point? or do they check any vehicle for emissions regardless of year based on the model requirements of the build year?
You need to go creep out this woman who works at DMV. Is she cute? or shaped like a troll like most of those angry DMV people. If shes not cute, then all you have to do is bring her some fresh bones so she can grind them to make bread.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
01-31-2012, 07:46 PM
#8
-The diesel engine has to be the same year or newer than the vehicle it is going into.
-The diesel engine has to be on a CARB list of diesel engines. This I think is a secret list, but I gather it would be OK if it originally had the EPA emission compliance label.
- Which brings me to the EPA emission compliance label, I've read that the swapped in diesel engine has to have this label in order for you to pass.
-Also, they will require you to have the VIN of the donor vehicle so they know you're not using some marine or off road type engine.
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This post was last modified: 01-31-2012, 07:47 PM by DeliveryValve.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
01-31-2012, 07:46 PM #8Here is what I've read about diesel swaps.
-The diesel engine has to be the same year or newer than the vehicle it is going into.
-The diesel engine has to be on a CARB list of diesel engines. This I think is a secret list, but I gather it would be OK if it originally had the EPA emission compliance label.
- Which brings me to the EPA emission compliance label, I've read that the swapped in diesel engine has to have this label in order for you to pass.
-Also, they will require you to have the VIN of the donor vehicle so they know you're not using some marine or off road type engine.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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02-01-2012, 12:50 AM
#9
(01-31-2012, 05:27 PM)dropnosky 84 you should be good as far as federal, plus like said above, rangers came with a mazda 4cyl diesel back in the day as a option. Think that year range
Check the CA dmv website. Im doing the same type of thing, and ill be free and clear with my 89 van in a little less than a year. Then it only needs safety inspections, and no longer has emissions, then I can put whatever the hell I want in the van, as long as it meets safety. Could be a steam boiler, and they would pass it
How long does CA do emissions, is there a cutoff point? or do they check any vehicle for emissions regardless of year based on the model requirements of the build year?
You need to go creep out this woman who works at DMV. Is she cute? or shaped like a troll like most of those angry DMV people. If shes not cute, then all you have to do is bring her some fresh bones so she can grind them to make bread.
Steam boiler would be awesome, ultimate torque power!!
She doesn't eat bones just lots and lots of soda and then gets sick every other week
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-01-2012, 12:50 AM #9(01-31-2012, 05:27 PM)dropnosky 84 you should be good as far as federal, plus like said above, rangers came with a mazda 4cyl diesel back in the day as a option. Think that year range
Check the CA dmv website. Im doing the same type of thing, and ill be free and clear with my 89 van in a little less than a year. Then it only needs safety inspections, and no longer has emissions, then I can put whatever the hell I want in the van, as long as it meets safety. Could be a steam boiler, and they would pass it
How long does CA do emissions, is there a cutoff point? or do they check any vehicle for emissions regardless of year based on the model requirements of the build year?
You need to go creep out this woman who works at DMV. Is she cute? or shaped like a troll like most of those angry DMV people. If shes not cute, then all you have to do is bring her some fresh bones so she can grind them to make bread.
Steam boiler would be awesome, ultimate torque power!!
She doesn't eat bones just lots and lots of soda and then gets sick every other week
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-02-2012, 05:19 PM
#10
(02-01-2012, 12:50 AM)sassparilla_kid Steam boiler would be awesome, ultimate torque power!!
She doesn't eat bones just lots and lots of soda and then gets sick every other week
how do you know this woman? She sounds depressing; reclusive, unhealthy, and works at the DMV where everyone is predisposed to be angry about paperwork
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(02-01-2012, 12:50 AM)sassparilla_kid Steam boiler would be awesome, ultimate torque power!!
She doesn't eat bones just lots and lots of soda and then gets sick every other week
how do you know this woman? She sounds depressing; reclusive, unhealthy, and works at the DMV where everyone is predisposed to be angry about paperwork
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
02-02-2012, 06:30 PM
#11
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-02-2012, 06:30 PM #11She's my dad's girlfriend's daughter. And yes, yes, yes, and yes to all of the above. Also she doesn't understand my sarcasm most of the time, which causes problems hahaha
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-03-2012, 12:53 PM
#12
I used the Vermont out-of-state to get my untitled 1981 Kawasaki on the road...
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-03-2012, 12:53 PM #12If there's a will, there's a way....maybe do a Vermont out-of-state registration and swap it over to Cali after VT clears the paperwork?
I used the Vermont out-of-state to get my untitled 1981 Kawasaki on the road...
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
02-03-2012, 01:27 PM
#13
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-03-2012, 01:27 PM #13How does that work?
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-03-2012, 02:12 PM
#14
(02-03-2012, 12:53 PM)Simpler=Better If there's a will, there's a way....maybe do a Vermont out-of-state registration and swap it over to Cali after VT clears the paperwork?
I used the Vermont out-of-state to get my untitled 1981 Kawasaki on the road...
Wasn't CA cracking down on this type of stuff? I think specifically AZ or something, since people were taking untitled vehicles, running them through AZ, and getting them retitled in CA. Something like that.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(02-03-2012, 12:53 PM)Simpler=Better If there's a will, there's a way....maybe do a Vermont out-of-state registration and swap it over to Cali after VT clears the paperwork?
I used the Vermont out-of-state to get my untitled 1981 Kawasaki on the road...
Wasn't CA cracking down on this type of stuff? I think specifically AZ or something, since people were taking untitled vehicles, running them through AZ, and getting them retitled in CA. Something like that.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
02-03-2012, 02:13 PM
#15
As for transferring it to Cali, I have no idea. Do you have tag & title places out there?
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-03-2012, 02:13 PM #15Vermont allows you to register as a non-resident, even if you don't have a VT license. They don't require titles if your vehicle is old enough
As for transferring it to Cali, I have no idea. Do you have tag & title places out there?
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
02-03-2012, 02:15 PM
#16
(02-03-2012, 01:27 PM)sassparilla_kid How does that work?
"sell" it to someone in VT, or another state that will allow a diesel swap easily, let it be registered and plated in VT as a "diesel", then have them "sell" it back to you in CA. The incoming paperwork will now say diesel.
I was reading in the news that this is a big thing for clearing missing titles, but im not so sure about diesel swaps. Check out this website-
http://www.dieseltoyz.com/
These guys swap engines over to diesel, and because of the particulars of their state, can sell it into other states that could be a problem
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(02-03-2012, 01:27 PM)sassparilla_kid How does that work?
"sell" it to someone in VT, or another state that will allow a diesel swap easily, let it be registered and plated in VT as a "diesel", then have them "sell" it back to you in CA. The incoming paperwork will now say diesel.
I was reading in the news that this is a big thing for clearing missing titles, but im not so sure about diesel swaps. Check out this website-
http://www.dieseltoyz.com/
These guys swap engines over to diesel, and because of the particulars of their state, can sell it into other states that could be a problem
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
02-03-2012, 03:19 PM
#17
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-03-2012, 03:19 PM #17Hmmm I'll have to look into this, although if I do end up doing anything it will probably be in the future when I either have a more lucrative job, dont have school, or have won the lottery haha
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
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