replace vac pump with dry sump oil system.
replace vac pump with dry sump oil system.
07-03-2012, 08:40 PM
#1
This post was last modified: 07-03-2012, 08:40 PM by Freefuel.
So I was thinking about fitting a dry sump oil system to an OM617, and driving it from the camshaft PTO normally used for the vacuum pump. I also hope that by doing this I can remove the stock oil pump and chain so I can shave the oil Pan as flat as can be.
07-04-2012, 01:34 AM
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DeliveryValve
07-04-2012, 01:34 AM #2I think that's a good idea. If you do it, please post your build along way.
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11-09-2012, 08:38 PM
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Any luck on this concept ?
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
11-15-2012, 09:05 AM
#4
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
11-15-2012, 09:05 AM #4Can the SLS pump run continuously as a pressure pump?
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
11-15-2012, 04:28 PM
#5
(07-03-2012, 08:40 PM)Freefuel So I was thinking about fitting a dry sump oil system to an OM617, and driving it from the camshaft PTO normally used for the vacuum pump. I also hope that by doing this I can remove the stock oil pump and chain so I can shave the oil Pan as flat as can be.
I am working on a similar system for the OM606.962 but it would be very interesting to follow what you come out with
(07-03-2012, 08:40 PM)Freefuel So I was thinking about fitting a dry sump oil system to an OM617, and driving it from the camshaft PTO normally used for the vacuum pump. I also hope that by doing this I can remove the stock oil pump and chain so I can shave the oil Pan as flat as can be.
05-18-2013, 07:00 PM
#6
Is the SLS pump on the 617 up to the task of working continuously as an engine oil pump?
How would one go about this on a 606 turbo?
Any examples of a dry sump system in use on either engine?
I know the advantages of using a dry sump but what are the drawbacks, if any?
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Dry sump: This is a subject that I think needs more attention.
Is the SLS pump on the 617 up to the task of working continuously as an engine oil pump?
How would one go about this on a 606 turbo?
Any examples of a dry sump system in use on either engine?
I know the advantages of using a dry sump but what are the drawbacks, if any?
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'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
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05-20-2013, 01:59 PM
#7
--Its flow is way too low. Its a Very high Pressure, Low Volume pump...
There's loads of bolt-on crank driven scavenge and oil-pumps that could be used...
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05-20-2013, 01:59 PM #7Cant use SLS pump as engine oil pump!
--Its flow is way too low. Its a Very high Pressure, Low Volume pump...
There's loads of bolt-on crank driven scavenge and oil-pumps that could be used...
05-20-2013, 02:34 PM
#8
This post was last modified: 05-20-2013, 02:36 PM by SurfRodder.
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SurfRodder
05-20-2013, 02:34 PM #8I'm definitely interested to see the outcome of this project...a way to measure and compare flow and pressures between stock and dry sump would be a good thing to keep from doing some serious damage...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
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05-20-2013, 03:09 PM
#9
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
05-20-2013, 03:09 PM #9I'd put in $20 if someone posted a nice writeup
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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