OM616 building with VE pump
OM616 building with VE pump
04-28-2013, 01:26 PM
#1
VE pump
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offroaddieselhu
04-28-2013, 01:26 PM #1OM616 building with VEpump and turbo of OM602
VE pump
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04-29-2013, 09:27 AM
#2
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-29-2013, 09:27 AM #2Interesting the VE is a rotary pump correct?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
04-29-2013, 02:42 PM
#3
(04-29-2013, 09:27 AM)willbhere4u Interesting the VE is a rotary pump correct?
yes
offroaddieselhu
04-29-2013, 02:42 PM #3(04-29-2013, 09:27 AM)willbhere4u Interesting the VE is a rotary pump correct?
yes
04-29-2013, 05:53 PM
#4
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-29-2013, 05:53 PM #4That should be cool
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
04-29-2013, 08:59 PM
#5
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-29-2013, 08:59 PM #5I've wanted to do something like this for a while glad to see it being attempted
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
04-29-2013, 09:31 PM
#6
Those things can throw some serious fuel, even in stock form.
Just fitted one to my 318 perkins within the past couple months.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
Like a Bosch VE?
Those things can throw some serious fuel, even in stock form.
Just fitted one to my 318 perkins within the past couple months.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
04-30-2013, 05:53 AM
#7
MB 207
BOSCH VE
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04-30-2013, 05:53 AM #7It will be MB207 bus with sof turbo. Only with max 0.7 bar charge pressure. 10x2.3 pump. It is just to have bit greater torque,and to optimlizate the consumption. I would like to hold the consuption on the same lever, even if the engine is stronger.
MB 207
BOSCH VE
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05-02-2013, 12:41 PM
#10
(05-02-2013, 10:49 AM)GeorgeHasmanda From wich car is the VE pump?
This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.
offroaddieselhu
05-02-2013, 12:41 PM #10(05-02-2013, 10:49 AM)GeorgeHasmanda From wich car is the VE pump?
This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.
05-03-2013, 05:13 AM
#12
(05-02-2013, 08:29 PM)MFSuper90 10mmx2.3? Lame
My pump is 12mm from the factory
offroaddieselhu
05-03-2013, 05:13 AM #12(05-02-2013, 08:29 PM)MFSuper90 10mmx2.3? Lame
My pump is 12mm from the factory
05-04-2013, 03:10 AM
#13
(05-02-2013, 12:41 PM)offroaddieselhuWhen can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?(05-02-2013, 10:49 AM)GeorgeHasmanda From wich car is the VE pump?
This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.
GeorgeHasmanda
05-04-2013, 03:10 AM #13(05-02-2013, 12:41 PM)offroaddieselhuWhen can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?(05-02-2013, 10:49 AM)GeorgeHasmanda From wich car is the VE pump?
This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.
05-04-2013, 04:15 AM
#14
(05-04-2013, 03:10 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-02-2013, 12:41 PM)offroaddieselhuWhen can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?(05-02-2013, 10:49 AM)GeorgeHasmanda From wich car is the VE pump?
This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.
What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?
This post was last modified: 05-04-2013, 04:22 AM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
05-04-2013, 04:15 AM #14(05-04-2013, 03:10 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-02-2013, 12:41 PM)offroaddieselhuWhen can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?(05-02-2013, 10:49 AM)GeorgeHasmanda From wich car is the VE pump?
This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.
What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?
05-04-2013, 11:30 PM
#15
(05-03-2013, 05:13 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-02-2013, 08:29 PM)MFSuper90 10mmx2.3? Lame
My pump is 12mm from the factory
You stated earlier you had a 10x2.3 pump. I took that as you meant a 10mm head and rotor, and a 2.3mm camplate?
Maybe we were talking about completely different things
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(05-03-2013, 05:13 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-02-2013, 08:29 PM)MFSuper90 10mmx2.3? Lame
My pump is 12mm from the factory
You stated earlier you had a 10x2.3 pump. I took that as you meant a 10mm head and rotor, and a 2.3mm camplate?
Maybe we were talking about completely different things
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-05-2013, 12:58 PM
#19
(05-05-2013, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu What you mean 12mm?
I mean the head on my VE pump is 12mm.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-05-2013, 02:44 PM
#20
(05-05-2013, 12:58 PM)MFSuper90(05-05-2013, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu What you mean 12mm?
I mean the head on my VE pump is 12mm.
what is 12 VE pump ?
offroaddieselhu
05-05-2013, 02:44 PM #20(05-05-2013, 12:58 PM)MFSuper90(05-05-2013, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu What you mean 12mm?
I mean the head on my VE pump is 12mm.
what is 12 VE pump ?
05-05-2013, 08:17 PM
#21
(05-05-2013, 02:44 PM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 12:58 PM)MFSuper90(05-05-2013, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu What you mean 12mm?
I mean the head on my VE pump is 12mm.
what is 12 VE pump ?
I dont think I am understanding what you are asking. Sorry for clogging up your thread!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(05-05-2013, 02:44 PM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 12:58 PM)MFSuper90(05-05-2013, 05:40 AM)offroaddieselhu What you mean 12mm?
I mean the head on my VE pump is 12mm.
what is 12 VE pump ?
I dont think I am understanding what you are asking. Sorry for clogging up your thread!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-07-2013, 01:25 AM
#22
(05-04-2013, 04:15 AM)offroaddieselhuI have OM604 without pump and i don't like ECU.(05-04-2013, 03:10 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-02-2013, 12:41 PM)offroaddieselhu This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.When can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?
What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?
GeorgeHasmanda
05-07-2013, 01:25 AM #22(05-04-2013, 04:15 AM)offroaddieselhuI have OM604 without pump and i don't like ECU.(05-04-2013, 03:10 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-02-2013, 12:41 PM)offroaddieselhu This is speceal pump from Bosch part. Builed 10 element. It is just for 100-120 HP.When can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?
What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?
05-07-2013, 04:44 AM
#23
(05-07-2013, 01:25 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-04-2013, 04:15 AM)offroaddieselhuI have OM604 without pump and i don't like ECU.(05-04-2013, 03:10 AM)GeorgeHasmanda When can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?
What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?
What is your plan with your car?
offroaddieselhu
05-07-2013, 04:44 AM #23(05-07-2013, 01:25 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-04-2013, 04:15 AM)offroaddieselhuI have OM604 without pump and i don't like ECU.(05-04-2013, 03:10 AM)GeorgeHasmanda When can I make VE pump on OM604, what stock pump I need?
What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?
What is your plan with your car?
05-18-2013, 09:02 AM
#24
(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
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05-18-2013, 09:02 AM #24high-pressure pipe folding
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05-18-2013, 04:16 PM
#25
(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
(05-18-2013, 04:16 PM)offroaddieselhu(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKidmsVM8E0
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05-18-2013, 04:16 PM #25(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
(05-18-2013, 04:16 PM)offroaddieselhu(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKidmsVM8E0
05-20-2013, 06:26 AM
#26
(05-18-2013, 04:16 PM)offroaddieselhu(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
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high-pressure pipe folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
(05-18-2013, 04:16 PM)offroaddieselhuwithout pre-charged http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUcb5G9s0RY(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKidmsVM8E0
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05-20-2013, 06:26 AM #26(05-18-2013, 04:16 PM)offroaddieselhu(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
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high-pressure pipe folding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
(05-18-2013, 04:16 PM)offroaddieselhuwithout pre-charged http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUcb5G9s0RY(05-18-2013, 09:02 AM)offroaddieselhu high-pressure pipe folding
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDA385F4QM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKidmsVM8E0
05-24-2013, 02:46 AM
#28
(05-20-2013, 07:25 PM)MFSuper90 Looks good!
This post was last modified: 05-24-2013, 02:47 AM by offroaddieselhu.
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05-24-2013, 02:46 AM #28older VE pump OM606 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoiCIz1HyBM
(05-20-2013, 07:25 PM)MFSuper90 Looks good!
05-24-2013, 03:30 PM
#29
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
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05-24-2013, 03:30 PM #29work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616
(05-24-2013, 03:30 PM)offroaddieselhu work on OM616http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrBixPlRjI
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05-29-2013, 06:29 AM
#30
And now will come the next step: TURBO
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05-29-2013, 06:29 AM #30The changes good in the car.
And now will come the next step: TURBO
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05-29-2013, 07:41 AM
#31
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
05-29-2013, 07:41 AM #31The pump looks like it came there from the factory
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-29-2013, 07:46 AM
#32
(05-29-2013, 07:41 AM)Simpler=Better The pump looks like it came there from the factory
Thaks,
From mini factory
I would try this kind of pump (VE) on a BIG POWER engine!
This post was last modified: 05-29-2013, 08:15 AM by offroaddieselhu.
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05-29-2013, 07:46 AM #32(05-29-2013, 07:41 AM)Simpler=Better The pump looks like it came there from the factory
Thaks,
From mini factory
I would try this kind of pump (VE) on a BIG POWER engine!
05-29-2013, 05:07 PM
#33
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
I run that same pump on my 400 cubic inch Perkins pulling tractor. Pushes alot of fuel, more fuel than it can take without a turbo!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
offroaddieselhu
06-06-2013, 04:20 PM #35(06-05-2013, 05:35 AM)offroaddieselhu "new" injektor
1.9 td vw
06-06-2013, 04:34 PM
#36
Or are the hole injector bodies the same?
What are the benefits?
This post was last modified: 06-06-2013, 04:35 PM by MFSuper90.
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
Are you only using the tips?
Or are the hole injector bodies the same?
What are the benefits?
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
06-06-2013, 04:40 PM
#37
(06-06-2013, 04:34 PM)MFSuper90 Are you only using the tips?
Or are the hole injector bodies the same?
What are the benefits?
It's works quieter, better injection (spraying)
This post was last modified: 06-07-2013, 01:37 AM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
06-06-2013, 04:40 PM #37(06-06-2013, 04:34 PM)MFSuper90 Are you only using the tips?
Or are the hole injector bodies the same?
What are the benefits?
It's works quieter, better injection (spraying)
06-06-2013, 09:11 PM
#38
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
More power? I am looking to put injectors in my om617, but I am not sure which to choose
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
06-07-2013, 05:16 AM
#39
(06-06-2013, 09:11 PM)MFSuper90 More power? I am looking to put injectors in my om617, but I am not sure which to choose
I don't know how it's works in inline pump, but it's works on 150 bar. The quantity maybe you can change but the preinjection will be lower. (but it will not be god probably.
Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
06-07-2013, 05:16 AM #39(06-06-2013, 09:11 PM)MFSuper90 More power? I am looking to put injectors in my om617, but I am not sure which to choose
I don't know how it's works in inline pump, but it's works on 150 bar. The quantity maybe you can change but the preinjection will be lower. (but it will not be god probably.
Offroaddieselhu
06-10-2013, 12:42 PM
#40
(05-07-2013, 04:44 AM)offroaddieselhuHello,I have OM604 with OM601 injection pump.Engine didn't cold start(05-07-2013, 01:25 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-04-2013, 04:15 AM)offroaddieselhu What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?I have OM604 without pump and i don't like ECU.
What is your plan with your car?
without start spray,fluctuating idle,some explosions in exhaust and white smoke,timming is 15 degrees ATDC.I tried stroboskop with piezo sensor on injection pipe on first cilinder and timming was 28 degrees BTDC.Thx
GeorgeHasmanda
06-10-2013, 12:42 PM #40(05-07-2013, 04:44 AM)offroaddieselhuHello,I have OM604 with OM601 injection pump.Engine didn't cold start(05-07-2013, 01:25 AM)GeorgeHasmanda(05-04-2013, 04:15 AM)offroaddieselhu What would you like to do with your Om 604 car? Would you like to change your Lucas pump( it's waste?) or you want tunning?I have OM604 without pump and i don't like ECU.
What is your plan with your car?
without start spray,fluctuating idle,some explosions in exhaust and white smoke,timming is 15 degrees ATDC.I tried stroboskop with piezo sensor on injection pipe on first cilinder and timming was 28 degrees BTDC.Thx
06-10-2013, 01:57 PM
#41
(06-07-2013, 05:16 AM)offroaddieselhu(06-06-2013, 09:11 PM)MFSuper90 More power? I am looking to put injectors in my om617, but I am not sure which to choose
I don't know how it's works in inline pump, but it's works on 150 bar. The quantity maybe you can change but the preinjection will be lower. (but it will not be god probably.
Offroaddieselhu
The VW injectors require very fast delivery times in order operate both stages, the VE pumps have 10/12mm elements that can deliver the fuel fast enough to reach the secondary pop pressures.
With the 5.5mm elements in the inline pumps only the primary stage is being used. With 10mm elements they may be useable, but with 5.5 or 6mm they are not a good match.
(06-07-2013, 05:16 AM)offroaddieselhu(06-06-2013, 09:11 PM)MFSuper90 More power? I am looking to put injectors in my om617, but I am not sure which to choose
I don't know how it's works in inline pump, but it's works on 150 bar. The quantity maybe you can change but the preinjection will be lower. (but it will not be god probably.
Offroaddieselhu
The VW injectors require very fast delivery times in order operate both stages, the VE pumps have 10/12mm elements that can deliver the fuel fast enough to reach the secondary pop pressures.
With the 5.5mm elements in the inline pumps only the primary stage is being used. With 10mm elements they may be useable, but with 5.5 or 6mm they are not a good match.
06-10-2013, 03:34 PM
#42
With the 5.5mm elements in the inline pumps only the primary stage is being used. With 10mm elements they may be useable, but with 5.5 or 6mm they are not a good match.
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The VW basically this injector gos with 9mm element.
Offroaddieselhu
Hello,I have OM604 with OM601 injection pump.Engine didn't cold start
without start spray,fluctuating idle,some explosions in exhaust and white smoke,timming is 15 degrees ATDC.I tried stroboskop with piezo sensor on injection pipe on first cilinder and timming was 28 degrees BTDC.Thx
[/quote]
Hi,
If you would set OM601 injectors to own opening pressure it would work certainly, but not this is the solution!
Offroaddieselhu
This post was last modified: 06-10-2013, 03:40 PM by offroaddieselhu.
offroaddieselhu
06-10-2013, 03:34 PM #42The VW injectors require very fast delivery times in order operate both stages, the VE pumps have 10/12mm elements that can deliver the fuel fast enough to reach the secondary pop pressures.
With the 5.5mm elements in the inline pumps only the primary stage is being used. With 10mm elements they may be useable, but with 5.5 or 6mm they are not a good match.
[/quote]
The VW basically this injector gos with 9mm element.
Offroaddieselhu
Hello,I have OM604 with OM601 injection pump.Engine didn't cold start
without start spray,fluctuating idle,some explosions in exhaust and white smoke,timming is 15 degrees ATDC.I tried stroboskop with piezo sensor on injection pipe on first cilinder and timming was 28 degrees BTDC.Thx
[/quote]
Hi,
If you would set OM601 injectors to own opening pressure it would work certainly, but not this is the solution!
Offroaddieselhu
06-20-2013, 10:23 AM
#43
New strat with 150 bar injectors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQL1mV6x_0
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06-20-2013, 10:23 AM #43150 bar injector
New strat with 150 bar injectors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQL1mV6x_0
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06-21-2013, 04:24 AM
#44
(06-20-2013, 10:23 AM)offroaddieselhu 150 bar injector
New strat with 150 bar injectors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQL1mV6x_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6XqCI8Bls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v38jwVZ...h8itXs2hZQ
offroaddieselhu
06-21-2013, 04:24 AM #44(06-20-2013, 10:23 AM)offroaddieselhu 150 bar injector
New strat with 150 bar injectors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQL1mV6x_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6XqCI8Bls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v38jwVZ...h8itXs2hZQ
06-23-2013, 06:43 PM
#46
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
06-24-2013, 04:02 AM
#47
(06-23-2013, 06:43 PM)Kozuka What collar are you using to put the VE pump to the chain drive sprocket (the om602 sprinter one?) and what VE pump are you using?
Hi,
I don't understand your problem. Please writte me exactly!
You can see on the photho my solution.
Offroaddieselhu
offroaddieselhu
06-24-2013, 04:02 AM #47(06-23-2013, 06:43 PM)Kozuka What collar are you using to put the VE pump to the chain drive sprocket (the om602 sprinter one?) and what VE pump are you using?
Hi,
I don't understand your problem. Please writte me exactly!
You can see on the photho my solution.
Offroaddieselhu
06-24-2013, 10:51 AM
#48
Did you have to change the drive sprocket (that is driven by the engine timing chain) because of the automatic advance?
Why did you need a spacer for the pump to the block? Was your spline adapter too long?
Devils in the details, if someone wants to replicate this. Maybe me, the 5,000rpm limit doesn't bother me in my wagon. Possibly a cheaper way to sub-300hp. 12mm head, 3.3mm cam plate, VW rabbit governer spring, big injectors, & boost. Could be a fun project.
Pic of the adapter spline collar on an om602 VE pump 310-312D sprinter van.
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This post was last modified: 06-24-2013, 01:49 PM by Kozuka.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
You know, the spline adapter that fits inside the engine and drives the pump. Which one did you use, where did you source it? Trying to figure out what's involved in a VE pump conversion.
Did you have to change the drive sprocket (that is driven by the engine timing chain) because of the automatic advance?
Why did you need a spacer for the pump to the block? Was your spline adapter too long?
Devils in the details, if someone wants to replicate this. Maybe me, the 5,000rpm limit doesn't bother me in my wagon. Possibly a cheaper way to sub-300hp. 12mm head, 3.3mm cam plate, VW rabbit governer spring, big injectors, & boost. Could be a fun project.
Pic of the adapter spline collar on an om602 VE pump 310-312D sprinter van.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
06-24-2013, 02:28 PM
#49
(06-24-2013, 10:51 AM)Kozuka You know, the spline adapter that fits inside the engine and drives the pump. Which one did you use, where did you source it? Trying to figure out what's involved in a VE pump conversion.
Did you have to change the drive sprocket (that is driven by the engine timing chain) because of the automatic advance?
Why did you need a spacer for the pump to the block? Was your spline adapter too long?
Devils in the details, if someone wants to replicate this. Maybe me, the 5,000rpm limit doesn't bother me in my wagon. Possibly a cheaper way to sub-300hp. 12mm head, 3.3mm cam plate, VW rabbit governer spring, big injectors, & boost. Could be a fun project.
Pic of the adapter spline collar on an om602 VE pump 310-312D sprinter van.
I welded the automatic advance.
The thin-axis goes up to the old VE Pump Parts feeder wheel drive
offroaddieselhu
06-24-2013, 02:28 PM #49(06-24-2013, 10:51 AM)Kozuka You know, the spline adapter that fits inside the engine and drives the pump. Which one did you use, where did you source it? Trying to figure out what's involved in a VE pump conversion.
Did you have to change the drive sprocket (that is driven by the engine timing chain) because of the automatic advance?
Why did you need a spacer for the pump to the block? Was your spline adapter too long?
Devils in the details, if someone wants to replicate this. Maybe me, the 5,000rpm limit doesn't bother me in my wagon. Possibly a cheaper way to sub-300hp. 12mm head, 3.3mm cam plate, VW rabbit governer spring, big injectors, & boost. Could be a fun project.
Pic of the adapter spline collar on an om602 VE pump 310-312D sprinter van.
I welded the automatic advance.
The thin-axis goes up to the old VE Pump Parts feeder wheel drive
06-24-2013, 07:34 PM
#50
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
Did you use the om602 sprinter spline adapter on the input shaft or do you have another source for them? That's the main hurdle to making this work state side is that rinky-dink spline adapter that they didn't sell here but they did in Europe. Almost willing to spend the $400 to get a whole pump for that little piece.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
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