OM 606 Turbo Compound
OM 606 Turbo Compound
08-08-2013, 02:22 PM
#2
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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08-08-2013, 02:22 PM #2That's a clever log manifold, I might need to steal your ideas
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
08-08-2013, 02:43 PM
#3
Nice work! Could you share more about your compound setup? Bypass? BOV?
I'm very interested and can't wait to see more progress!
Keep up the good work
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Nice work! Could you share more about your compound setup? Bypass? BOV?
I'm very interested and can't wait to see more progress!
Keep up the good work
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD - 160k
'06.5 VW Jetta TDI - 230k
'82 MB 300TD - 116k (motor going to raysorenson)
'81 MB 300TD - 195k (parting out)
'71 Jeep DJ5 - diesel conversion project
08-08-2013, 04:52 PM
#4
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-08-2013, 04:52 PM #4Nice! It should have really good low end spooling characteristics with the stock turbo what level of boost are you shooting for? are you going to build up the injection pump to match it?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
08-10-2013, 08:26 AM
#5
(08-08-2013, 02:22 PM)Simpler=Better That's a clever log manifold, I might need to steal your ideas
Just build a similar one thats nice when ideas can inspire others
(08-08-2013, 02:43 PM)CRD4x4 Subscribed!!
Nice work! Could you share more about your compound setup? Bypass? BOV?
I'm very interested and can't wait to see more progress!
Keep up the good work
There gonna be an 60 mm WG bypassing the small turbo when the exhaust back pressure is too high and no WG in the small turbo a strong spring will hold that shut.On the pressure site it will be no by pass just a big Inter cooler .
(08-08-2013, 04:52 PM)willbhere4u Nice! It should have really good low end spooling characteristics with the stock turbo what level of boost are you shooting for? are you going to build up the injection pump to match it?
The pump is o it´s way to Dieselmeken
This post was last modified: 08-10-2013, 08:33 AM by Sotvisp.
(08-08-2013, 02:22 PM)Simpler=Better That's a clever log manifold, I might need to steal your ideas
Just build a similar one thats nice when ideas can inspire others
(08-08-2013, 02:43 PM)CRD4x4 Subscribed!!
Nice work! Could you share more about your compound setup? Bypass? BOV?
I'm very interested and can't wait to see more progress!
Keep up the good work
There gonna be an 60 mm WG bypassing the small turbo when the exhaust back pressure is too high and no WG in the small turbo a strong spring will hold that shut.On the pressure site it will be no by pass just a big Inter cooler .
(08-08-2013, 04:52 PM)willbhere4u Nice! It should have really good low end spooling characteristics with the stock turbo what level of boost are you shooting for? are you going to build up the injection pump to match it?
The pump is o it´s way to Dieselmeken
08-19-2013, 01:48 AM
#7
keep up the good work and photo's
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
looking good
keep up the good work and photo's
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
08-20-2013, 12:58 AM
#8
This post was last modified: 08-20-2013, 01:03 AM by 97e300.
08-20-2013, 08:22 AM
#9
It loks like they were ovaled with a hammer or press or vise
This post was last modified: 08-20-2013, 08:23 AM by Simpler=Better.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-20-2013, 08:22 AM #9They look like plumbing tees, the same ones you would weld together on railings, etc.
It loks like they were ovaled with a hammer or press or vise
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
08-20-2013, 09:38 AM
#10
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-20-2013, 09:38 AM #10Very nice! keep up the good work!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
08-21-2013, 01:42 AM
#12
Hopefully everything will work as planed. The only concern is heat and back pressure, hopefully the WG will keep up. A good idea will be to install a pressure and temp sensor in the manifold.Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space Hopefully everything will work as planed. The only concern is heat and back pressure, hopefully the WG will keep up. A good idea will be to install a pressure and temp sensor in the manifold.
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
08-24-2013, 01:00 AM
#13
(08-21-2013, 01:42 AM)erling66 Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
There will be pressure and heat sensor in the manifold , no by pass on the small turbo .
Early Cristmas
7,5 mm 140 CC Pump
This post was last modified: 08-24-2013, 01:09 AM by Sotvisp.
Diesel Power
(08-21-2013, 01:42 AM)erling66 Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
There will be pressure and heat sensor in the manifold , no by pass on the small turbo .
Early Cristmas
7,5 mm 140 CC Pump
Diesel Power
08-24-2013, 10:50 AM
#14
(08-24-2013, 01:00 AM)Sotvisp(08-21-2013, 01:42 AM)erling66 Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
There will be pressure and heat sensor in the manifold , no by pass on the small turbo .
Early Cristmas
7,5 mm 140 CC Pump
Good link about Bosch inline pumps http://transportation.centennialcollege....inline.pdf
Diesel Power
(08-24-2013, 01:00 AM)Sotvisp(08-21-2013, 01:42 AM)erling66 Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
There will be pressure and heat sensor in the manifold , no by pass on the small turbo .
Early Cristmas
7,5 mm 140 CC Pump
Good link about Bosch inline pumps http://transportation.centennialcollege....inline.pdf
Diesel Power
08-29-2013, 06:46 AM
#18
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
62.5mm
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
08-30-2013, 03:52 AM
#19
(08-24-2013, 01:00 AM)Sotvisp(08-21-2013, 01:42 AM)erling66 Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
There will be pressure and heat sensor in the manifold , no by pass on the small turbo .
Early Cristmas
7,5 mm 140 CC Pump
very nice!
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
maxypriest
08-30-2013, 03:52 AM #19(08-24-2013, 01:00 AM)Sotvisp(08-21-2013, 01:42 AM)erling66 Very nice project, you got 2 turbos into a small space
Will you push all the air coming from the large turbo trough the small turbo or will you bypass it when pressure builds up?
There will be pressure and heat sensor in the manifold , no by pass on the small turbo .
Early Cristmas
7,5 mm 140 CC Pump
very nice!
W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
08-31-2013, 07:18 PM
#20
(08-29-2013, 06:46 AM)Ksteen2 62.5mm
When the turbo goes to hell, save the exhausthousing! It is bolt on to the hx35 and hx40!!!
EDH_Performance
08-31-2013, 07:18 PM #20(08-29-2013, 06:46 AM)Ksteen2 62.5mm
When the turbo goes to hell, save the exhausthousing! It is bolt on to the hx35 and hx40!!!
09-04-2013, 05:18 PM
#22
This post was last modified: 09-04-2013, 05:19 PM by willbhere4u.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-04-2013, 05:18 PM #22looks very nice did you have to weld the housing when you got all of that stuff out?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
09-05-2013, 11:26 AM
#24
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-05-2013, 11:26 AM #24nice and simple I like that idea
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
09-08-2013, 12:53 PM
#25
The original leaking O-ring Pre filter is in the garbage bag and a "new" from an OM616 w 123 is mounted with "real" banjocouplings !! so no more bubbles .
I have started the car and i runs perfect ! so soon the turbos will be installed.
a couple of pics i made a tool for the pump with IKEA parts
Diesel Power
Finally i have mounted the new pump from Dieselmeken in my car.
The original leaking O-ring Pre filter is in the garbage bag and a "new" from an OM616 w 123 is mounted with "real" banjocouplings !! so no more bubbles .
I have started the car and i runs perfect ! so soon the turbos will be installed.
a couple of pics i made a tool for the pump with IKEA parts
Diesel Power
09-09-2013, 02:59 AM
#26
but i think you need a bigger turbo
This post was last modified: 09-09-2013, 03:00 AM by Ksteen2.
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
looks good
but i think you need a bigger turbo
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
10-02-2013, 04:53 PM
#27
The wastegate flange you fitted seems to be on the high pressure turbo outlet?
Or am I misunderstanding?
H.
This post was last modified: 10-02-2013, 04:54 PM by Hario'.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
Hello you said you are using an external wastegate to bypass the high pressure turbo but there is no wastegate flange on the manifold?
The wastegate flange you fitted seems to be on the high pressure turbo outlet?
Or am I misunderstanding?
H.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
10-03-2013, 10:16 AM
#28
(09-08-2013, 12:53 PM)Sotvisp Finally i have mounted the new pump from Dieselmeken in my car.
The original leaking O-ring Pre filter is in the garbage bag and a "new" from an OM616 w 123 is mounted with "real" banjocouplings !! so no more bubbles .
I have started the car and i runs perfect ! so soon the turbos will be installed.
a couple of pics i made a tool for the pump with IKEA parts
This is my new favorite post on STD. A Swedish guy made an IP timing tool from IKEA parts.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
10-03-2013, 10:16 AM #28(09-08-2013, 12:53 PM)Sotvisp Finally i have mounted the new pump from Dieselmeken in my car.
The original leaking O-ring Pre filter is in the garbage bag and a "new" from an OM616 w 123 is mounted with "real" banjocouplings !! so no more bubbles .
I have started the car and i runs perfect ! so soon the turbos will be installed.
a couple of pics i made a tool for the pump with IKEA parts
This is my new favorite post on STD. A Swedish guy made an IP timing tool from IKEA parts.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
10-29-2013, 01:40 PM
#31
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-29-2013, 01:40 PM #31looks great! I would love to see some videos and hear how that sounds!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
10-30-2013, 03:20 AM
#32
return from the T70 to the small ? or did you make two single systems?
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
lovley build, but how did you manage you'r oil?
return from the T70 to the small ? or did you make two single systems?
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
10-30-2013, 01:54 PM
#35
(10-30-2013, 03:20 AM)Ksteen2 lovley build, but how did you manage you'r oil?
return from the T70 to the small ? or did you make two single systems?
I make i y crossing just above the original oil return in the block a bit tricky but running well now..
(10-30-2013, 04:32 AM)Flakis Very niceIm from Blekinge sweden ..is it more fast rev in the 14 degree mode??
Where in Sweden are you from?
(10-29-2013, 01:40 PM)willbhere4u looks great! I would love to see some videos and hear how that sounds!
There will be videos
This post was last modified: 10-30-2013, 01:57 PM by Sotvisp.
Diesel Power
(10-30-2013, 03:20 AM)Ksteen2 lovley build, but how did you manage you'r oil?
return from the T70 to the small ? or did you make two single systems?
I make i y crossing just above the original oil return in the block a bit tricky but running well now..
(10-30-2013, 04:32 AM)Flakis Very niceIm from Blekinge sweden ..is it more fast rev in the 14 degree mode??
Where in Sweden are you from?
(10-29-2013, 01:40 PM)willbhere4u looks great! I would love to see some videos and hear how that sounds!
There will be videos
Diesel Power
10-31-2013, 05:06 AM
#36
(10-30-2013, 04:32 AM)Flakis Very niceIm from Blekinge sweden ..is it more fast rev in the 14 degree mode??
Where in Sweden are you from?
I think so. lesser degrees = better bottom, better response
never tried on my 15 but I know those who have fallen between 12 and 14 also: P
(10-30-2013, 04:32 AM)Flakis Very niceIm from Blekinge sweden ..is it more fast rev in the 14 degree mode??
Where in Sweden are you from?
I think so. lesser degrees = better bottom, better response
never tried on my 15 but I know those who have fallen between 12 and 14 also: P
02-22-2014, 01:41 PM
#37
The 300 will be rebuild soon to bigger turbos for less back pressaure so as soon as some progress is made there will be updates.
Keep on Rocking Diesel lovers!!..
Diesel Power
Sorry for the bad updates here i have an other projekt a 250tdt with 8 mm pump and ball-bearing turbo will be a new tread soon.
The 300 will be rebuild soon to bigger turbos for less back pressaure so as soon as some progress is made there will be updates.
Keep on Rocking Diesel lovers!!..
Diesel Power
02-23-2014, 05:10 AM
#38
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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
You from Blekinge? Where? I'm from Blekinge also, Karlskrona/Ronneby! And I don't recognize this build.
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
02-23-2014, 09:22 AM
#40
I have to ask Macke why I haven't seen this build. What's the next project then?You have to visit the shop and look at the e36/46 om605 Compakt. It's really coming together now. Far from the old soot-whore 4-5years ago
(02-23-2014, 08:11 AM)Sotvisp(02-23-2014, 05:10 AM)F.R.A.S You from Blekinge? Where? I'm from Blekinge also, Karlskrona/Ronneby! And I don't recognize this build.
Yes from Hassloe inbetween Kna-Rnb , i know Macke in your shop..
I have build many Diesels in the past...
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
Amazing I have to ask Macke why I haven't seen this build. What's the next project then?
You have to visit the shop and look at the e36/46 om605 Compakt. It's really coming together now. Far from the old soot-whore 4-5years ago
(02-23-2014, 08:11 AM)Sotvisp(02-23-2014, 05:10 AM)F.R.A.S You from Blekinge? Where? I'm from Blekinge also, Karlskrona/Ronneby! And I don't recognize this build.
Yes from Hassloe inbetween Kna-Rnb , i know Macke in your shop..
I have build many Diesels in the past...
F-tune Performance
I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
03-05-2014, 05:29 PM
#41
(10-02-2013, 04:53 PM)Hario Hello you said you are using an external wastegate to bypass the high pressure turbo but there is no wastegate flange on the manifold?
The wastegate flange you fitted seems to be on the high pressure turbo outlet?
Or am I misunderstanding?
H.
I have realized I am an idiot with the above comment. lol
606 compounding with the factory turbo for HP turbo is awesome and exactly what I want to do..
Keep it up.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
(10-02-2013, 04:53 PM)Hario Hello you said you are using an external wastegate to bypass the high pressure turbo but there is no wastegate flange on the manifold?
The wastegate flange you fitted seems to be on the high pressure turbo outlet?
Or am I misunderstanding?
H.
I have realized I am an idiot with the above comment. lol
606 compounding with the factory turbo for HP turbo is awesome and exactly what I want to do..
Keep it up.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
03-09-2014, 05:42 AM
#43
(03-08-2014, 05:53 PM)Alcaid Compounding with the stock turbo without complete bypass (sequential) is a really bad idea with regards to back pressure...
Maybe so, but I bet the real problem was LP getting in surge area -> high back pressure. Looking from T70 compressor map, it is very bad choice for LP.
Also both these turbos are very old design with poor best efficiency -> hot IATs and unnecessary high BP even if they were correctly matched to each other.
shadowmaker
03-09-2014, 05:42 AM #43(03-08-2014, 05:53 PM)Alcaid Compounding with the stock turbo without complete bypass (sequential) is a really bad idea with regards to back pressure...
Maybe so, but I bet the real problem was LP getting in surge area -> high back pressure. Looking from T70 compressor map, it is very bad choice for LP.
Also both these turbos are very old design with poor best efficiency -> hot IATs and unnecessary high BP even if they were correctly matched to each other.
03-09-2014, 12:34 PM
#45
The HP turbo only needs enough exhaust to drive the compressor wheel to produce 15psi PR (example figure).
Tito, there is a wastegate bypassing the small high pressure (primary) turbo, this is usually boost pressure referenced. But my setup will see the primary turbo wastegate reference exhaust manifold pressure. So it bypasses when exhaust pressure gets to an unacceptable level dictated by me and probably my EGT/EGP gauges.
Keep it up, compounding is the unsung hero of all things coal powered! Lol
H.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
Only enough wastegate bypass is needed to keep manifold back pressure down, 44mm for example?
The HP turbo only needs enough exhaust to drive the compressor wheel to produce 15psi PR (example figure).
Tito, there is a wastegate bypassing the small high pressure (primary) turbo, this is usually boost pressure referenced. But my setup will see the primary turbo wastegate reference exhaust manifold pressure. So it bypasses when exhaust pressure gets to an unacceptable level dictated by me and probably my EGT/EGP gauges.
Keep it up, compounding is the unsung hero of all things coal powered! Lol
H.
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
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