STD Tuning Engine help for OM605 swap to w201

help for OM605 swap to w201

help for OM605 swap to w201

 
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ad0
Naturally-aspirated

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11-24-2013, 06:47 PM #1
Hello everyone im new in this forum , I have questions anyone can help me
Blush
I want to know what I need to put om605 (without adjustments) original om605 , 5-cylinder (150 h.p) swap to W201
I can start with original om605 fuel pump or i need to change to mechanic pump with OM602Idea
Another important thing what i need to know .
HuhHuh
Thanks!
Greetings to all !Shy
ad0
11-24-2013, 06:47 PM #1

Hello everyone im new in this forum , I have questions anyone can help me
Blush
I want to know what I need to put om605 (without adjustments) original om605 , 5-cylinder (150 h.p) swap to W201
I can start with original om605 fuel pump or i need to change to mechanic pump with OM602Idea
Another important thing what i need to know .
HuhHuh
Thanks!
Greetings to all !Shy

cho
GT2559V

183
11-27-2013, 01:06 PM #2
(11-24-2013, 06:47 PM)ad0 Hello everyone im new in this forum , I have questions anyone can help me
Blush
I want to know what I need to put om605 (without adjustments) original om605 , 5-cylinder (150 h.p) swap to W201
I can start with original om605 fuel pump or i need to change to mechanic pump with OM602Idea
Another important thing what i need to know .
HuhHuh
Thanks!
Greetings to all !Shy

you can go both ways,the second is quite easier.(tuning needed for mechanic pump also...)
it is not just a pump you have to worry about ... also IIRC you
will have to resolve engine height issue and possibly tranny space...

if you choose to go option one,.better have complete car donor ready Smile

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500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
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cho
11-27-2013, 01:06 PM #2

(11-24-2013, 06:47 PM)ad0 Hello everyone im new in this forum , I have questions anyone can help me
Blush
I want to know what I need to put om605 (without adjustments) original om605 , 5-cylinder (150 h.p) swap to W201
I can start with original om605 fuel pump or i need to change to mechanic pump with OM602Idea
Another important thing what i need to know .
HuhHuh
Thanks!
Greetings to all !Shy

you can go both ways,the second is quite easier.(tuning needed for mechanic pump also...)
it is not just a pump you have to worry about ... also IIRC you
will have to resolve engine height issue and possibly tranny space...

if you choose to go option one,.better have complete car donor ready Smile

.


500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
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.

ad0
Naturally-aspirated

5
11-28-2013, 05:39 AM #3
Wink
very easier the second option ?? than first option..
original elements of the fuel pump om605 - 5.5 mm or 6.0 mm?
if I want to put a mechanical pump ( om602) what elements need to put 7.0 mm or 7.5 mm or 6.0 mm ....?
dynamics of engine will change ? will give the same results or will be a little faster?
because I will use it for daily driving SmileAngel
roughly to do 160-180h.p first stageShy
This post was last modified: 11-28-2013, 05:48 AM by ad0.
ad0
11-28-2013, 05:39 AM #3

Wink
very easier the second option ?? than first option..
original elements of the fuel pump om605 - 5.5 mm or 6.0 mm?
if I want to put a mechanical pump ( om602) what elements need to put 7.0 mm or 7.5 mm or 6.0 mm ....?
dynamics of engine will change ? will give the same results or will be a little faster?
because I will use it for daily driving SmileAngel
roughly to do 160-180h.p first stageShy

cho
GT2559V

183
11-28-2013, 09:07 AM #4
(11-28-2013, 05:39 AM)ad0 Wink
very easier the second option ?? than first option..
original elements of the fuel pump om605 - 5.5 mm or 6.0 mm?
if I want to put a mechanical pump ( om602) what elements need to put 7.0 mm or 7.5 mm or 6.0 mm ....?
dynamics of engine will change ? will give the same results or will be a little faster?
because I will use it for daily driving SmileAngel
roughly to do 160-180h.p first stageShy


well...... why bother? go with om605.960/2 TongueSmileSmile


.

500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
----------------------------------------------------------
.
cho
11-28-2013, 09:07 AM #4

(11-28-2013, 05:39 AM)ad0 Wink
very easier the second option ?? than first option..
original elements of the fuel pump om605 - 5.5 mm or 6.0 mm?
if I want to put a mechanical pump ( om602) what elements need to put 7.0 mm or 7.5 mm or 6.0 mm ....?
dynamics of engine will change ? will give the same results or will be a little faster?
because I will use it for daily driving SmileAngel
roughly to do 160-180h.p first stageShy


well...... why bother? go with om605.960/2 TongueSmileSmile


.


500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
----------------------------------------------------------
.

ad0
Naturally-aspirated

5
11-28-2013, 05:46 PM #5
Yeah, me too thought about om605.960/62 Wink but I'm worried because I've never done this procedure ,Shy and want to know what I need before I started the project BlushAngel
so i need to start engine (ECU+Fuel Pump Controller ?)
thanks for HELP CoolWinkWink
ad0
11-28-2013, 05:46 PM #5

Yeah, me too thought about om605.960/62 Wink but I'm worried because I've never done this procedure ,Shy and want to know what I need before I started the project BlushAngel
so i need to start engine (ECU+Fuel Pump Controller ?)
thanks for HELP CoolWinkWink

cho
GT2559V

183
11-29-2013, 03:59 AM #6
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as mentioned earlier....you have to decide...will you go mech or electrical

mechanical is easier less initial work and more room for pimping fuel supply

as for second option ... just buy whole donor car... as to my knowledge
c250td are quite cheap in Bulgaria and just swap EVERYTHING to w201 Smile

if you dont have any automotive electric knowledge just take snapshot
of EVERYTHING before disconcerting plugs

if 380hp is your final goal..well... save some money..contact dieselmaken
and off ya go ....AngelAngel




.

500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
----------------------------------------------------------
.
cho
11-29-2013, 03:59 AM #6

.

as mentioned earlier....you have to decide...will you go mech or electrical

mechanical is easier less initial work and more room for pimping fuel supply

as for second option ... just buy whole donor car... as to my knowledge
c250td are quite cheap in Bulgaria and just swap EVERYTHING to w201 Smile

if you dont have any automotive electric knowledge just take snapshot
of EVERYTHING before disconcerting plugs

if 380hp is your final goal..well... save some money..contact dieselmaken
and off ya go ....AngelAngel




.


500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
----------------------------------------------------------
.

ad0
Naturally-aspirated

5
11-29-2013, 05:35 AM #7
thanks for helping.Rolleyes would be easier with mechanical ,anyway my current engine Is om602 (2.5D) Wink i can take mech pump , but first need to ordered elements to pump 7.0mm ,or maybe 6.0mm, i Watch the video of dieselmeken , with 6.0mm on om605 960 Big Grin Angel
This post was last modified: 11-29-2013, 05:41 AM by ad0.
ad0
11-29-2013, 05:35 AM #7

thanks for helping.Rolleyes would be easier with mechanical ,anyway my current engine Is om602 (2.5D) Wink i can take mech pump , but first need to ordered elements to pump 7.0mm ,or maybe 6.0mm, i Watch the video of dieselmeken , with 6.0mm on om605 960 Big Grin Angel

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
11-30-2013, 03:25 AM #8
My advice, forget the electric pump, you will probably never get it running. Use your 602 pump as it is. Install the pump on the engine, install the engine and gearbox and make it a running car. When everything works fine and you still feel like working, then you can think about more power(bigger elements, bigger turbo, intercooler, etc) I have seen so many projects where the owner wants to do everything at once and never finish and sells the car in parts with a big loss. So do it step by step and make it running between every stepSmile

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
11-30-2013, 03:25 AM #8

My advice, forget the electric pump, you will probably never get it running. Use your 602 pump as it is. Install the pump on the engine, install the engine and gearbox and make it a running car. When everything works fine and you still feel like working, then you can think about more power(bigger elements, bigger turbo, intercooler, etc) I have seen so many projects where the owner wants to do everything at once and never finish and sells the car in parts with a big loss. So do it step by step and make it running between every stepSmile


HuhCoolTongue

ad0
Naturally-aspirated

5
11-30-2013, 05:49 AM #9
yeah this is a good idea for stock engine ,without change elements Wink
step by step, slowly but glorious Rolleyesvery good advice ... Tusen takkWink
ad0
11-30-2013, 05:49 AM #9

yeah this is a good idea for stock engine ,without change elements Wink
step by step, slowly but glorious Rolleyesvery good advice ... Tusen takkWink

 
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