How much power can 606.962 take?
How much power can 606.962 take?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I've heard rumors around 400hp? I don't know for sure
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Blacksmokeracing blew theirs up a few times recently. Wasn't it at like 600 or something?
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...sel?page=3
He has about 500hp with unopend engine.
So you reckon 450HP would be a reasonable daily driver (haha)? Myna said his 7mm elements can supply up to around 600hp. What kind of turbo would be needed to let 450HP breathe? Also, BSR's 606 melted the pistons at around 500hp. Would getting the pistons coated help mitigate that issue if not a tad? Anyone have experience with piston coatings?
(12-16-2013, 08:41 PM)97e300 So you reckon 450HP would be a reasonable daily driver (haha)? Myna said his 7mm elements can supply up to around 600hp. What kind of turbo would be needed to let 450HP breathe? Also, BSR's 606 melted the pistons at around 500hp. Would getting the pistons coated help mitigate that issue if not a tad? Anyone have experience with piston coatings?
(12-16-2013, 08:41 PM)97e300 So you reckon 450HP would be a reasonable daily driver (haha)? Myna said his 7mm elements can supply up to around 600hp. What kind of turbo would be needed to let 450HP breathe? Also, BSR's 606 melted the pistons at around 500hp. Would getting the pistons coated help mitigate that issue if not a tad? Anyone have experience with piston coatings?
(12-17-2013, 12:35 AM)97e300 Good to know! So what can one do to avoid a meltdown?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(12-17-2013, 12:35 AM)97e300 Good to know! So what can one do to avoid a meltdown?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(12-17-2013, 12:35 AM)97e300 So what can one do to avoid a meltdown?
(12-17-2013, 12:35 AM)97e300 So what can one do to avoid a meltdown?
hi,
something is wrong if the pistons are melting.
BSR claimed 500bhp but never showed a dyno graph to prove it, i asked to see it but they never replied.
although they have commented lately about the piston problem,
"It seems the engine will not run for that long without the cooling effect that sufficient oil flow towards the pistons provide. The oil flow problem again, is caused by cracks"
a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.
(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.
So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?
(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.
So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?
(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.
So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?
untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.
il pm you a video.
(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.
So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?
untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.
il pm you a video.
(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81 So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?
untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.
il pm you a video.
thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..
(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81 So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?
untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.
il pm you a video.
thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..
(12-25-2013, 07:54 PM)swampmonkey(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.
il pm you a video.
thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..
i think it was turned up to more like 4bar at the begining, dialed down, and peaks at around 3.4 nowdays.
lived its first life in the northern part of sweden like half a year, raced a couple of SLS AMGs and other cars, not pampered at al.
1/4 mile on 13.75seconds something 189km/h
we drove it 1200km from northern sweden to gothenburg, (highway speed)
he layed out perhaps 300km extra with rough driving, changed differential, drove 200km to trackday, raced a couple of laps, untill the gearbox broke down.
right now he is on the look for a replacement gearbox, the 717401 lost the third gear,
(12-25-2013, 07:54 PM)swampmonkey(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.
il pm you a video.
thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..
i think it was turned up to more like 4bar at the begining, dialed down, and peaks at around 3.4 nowdays.
lived its first life in the northern part of sweden like half a year, raced a couple of SLS AMGs and other cars, not pampered at al.
1/4 mile on 13.75seconds something 189km/h
we drove it 1200km from northern sweden to gothenburg, (highway speed)
he layed out perhaps 300km extra with rough driving, changed differential, drove 200km to trackday, raced a couple of laps, untill the gearbox broke down.
right now he is on the look for a replacement gearbox, the 717401 lost the third gear,
(12-27-2013, 02:50 PM)Domino81(12-25-2013, 07:54 PM)swampmonkey(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81 thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..
i think it was turned up to more like 4bar at the begining, dialed down, and peaks at around 3.4 nowdays.
lived its first life in the northern part of sweden like half a year, raced a couple of SLS AMGs and other cars, not pampered at al.
1/4 mile on 13.75seconds something 189km/h
we drove it 1200km from northern sweden to gothenburg, (highway speed)
he layed out perhaps 300km extra with rough driving, changed differential, drove 200km to trackday, raced a couple of laps, untill the gearbox broke down.
right now he is on the look for a replacement gearbox, the 717401 lost the third gear,
Hi, thanks, it let's us think that that set up seems reliable for track days and under heavy load.. (despite the gearbox failure)..
Reliability definition may however vary depending on the period or expected distances of the test.. I'd say about reliability of unopened om606 if someone have driven it for over 50tkm with pressures of >3bar..
(12-27-2013, 02:50 PM)Domino81(12-25-2013, 07:54 PM)swampmonkey(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81 thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..
i think it was turned up to more like 4bar at the begining, dialed down, and peaks at around 3.4 nowdays.
lived its first life in the northern part of sweden like half a year, raced a couple of SLS AMGs and other cars, not pampered at al.
1/4 mile on 13.75seconds something 189km/h
we drove it 1200km from northern sweden to gothenburg, (highway speed)
he layed out perhaps 300km extra with rough driving, changed differential, drove 200km to trackday, raced a couple of laps, untill the gearbox broke down.
right now he is on the look for a replacement gearbox, the 717401 lost the third gear,
Hi, thanks, it let's us think that that set up seems reliable for track days and under heavy load.. (despite the gearbox failure)..
Reliability definition may however vary depending on the period or expected distances of the test.. I'd say about reliability of unopened om606 if someone have driven it for over 50tkm with pressures of >3bar..
(12-30-2013, 04:37 AM)john Stock internals?? is there any upgrades you can buy for the 606? I was under the impression that the stock turbo 606 had the strongest internals avalibel?
(12-30-2013, 04:37 AM)john Stock internals?? is there any upgrades you can buy for the 606? I was under the impression that the stock turbo 606 had the strongest internals avalibel?
(12-31-2013, 06:05 AM)swampmonkey(12-30-2013, 04:37 AM)john Stock internals?? is there any upgrades you can buy for the 606? I was under the impression that the stock turbo 606 had the strongest internals avalibel?
seems that people change valvesprings and other stuff, just pointing out that none of those was changed or tampered with (if it was my friends car you where refering to)
(12-31-2013, 06:05 AM)swampmonkey(12-30-2013, 04:37 AM)john Stock internals?? is there any upgrades you can buy for the 606? I was under the impression that the stock turbo 606 had the strongest internals avalibel?
seems that people change valvesprings and other stuff, just pointing out that none of those was changed or tampered with (if it was my friends car you where refering to)
Original bottom end seems to be very tough indeed. We are using Arrow rods, but we like to think that even original rods would do current 693bhp/1250Nm just fine. This engine did around 20 000km and wore 8 sets of rear tires before it broke and we were little surprised that it lasted so long. Car is really hard driven daily driver with tow bar and full interior. IRC our best trap on 1/4 mile was ~215kmh with no traction. Apart from bottom end, nothing is original in the engine. Best power is @7000rpm and shifting point/rev limiter @7500rpm.
Next engine will have compound turbos and we have already made very succesfull tests. I think we have enough power as it is (it burns tires up to 220kmh with dry tarmac and road legal tires), but we want it to behave like modern turbodiesel plus get rid of the smoke. We'll see how it turns out.
Shadowmaster, what broke?
And did you have the head fire ringed or o-ringed?
Just wondering what all it took on the upper end.
Btw, you speak English very well! Very nice, I know it's not an easy language to learn
(02-11-2014, 05:47 AM)shadowmaker Original bottom end seems to be very tough indeed. We are using Arrow rods, but we like to think that even original rods would do current 693bhp/1250Nm just fine. This engine did around 20 000km and wore 8 sets of rear tires before it broke and we were little surprised that it lasted so long. Car is really hard driven daily driver with tow bar and full interior. IRC our best trap on 1/4 mile was ~215kmh with no traction. Apart from bottom end, nothing is original in the engine. Best power is @7000rpm and shifting point/rev limiter @7500rpm.
Next engine will have compound turbos and we have already made very succesfull tests. I think we have enough power as it is (it burns tires up to 220kmh with dry tarmac and road legal tires), but we want it to behave like modern turbodiesel plus get rid of the smoke. We'll see how it turns out.
So Janne you have found your way here, welcome, hope you have found some more time now even if children a lot of time
(02-11-2014, 05:47 AM)shadowmaker Original bottom end seems to be very tough indeed. We are using Arrow rods, but we like to think that even original rods would do current 693bhp/1250Nm just fine. This engine did around 20 000km and wore 8 sets of rear tires before it broke and we were little surprised that it lasted so long. Car is really hard driven daily driver with tow bar and full interior. IRC our best trap on 1/4 mile was ~215kmh with no traction. Apart from bottom end, nothing is original in the engine. Best power is @7000rpm and shifting point/rev limiter @7500rpm.
Next engine will have compound turbos and we have already made very succesfull tests. I think we have enough power as it is (it burns tires up to 220kmh with dry tarmac and road legal tires), but we want it to behave like modern turbodiesel plus get rid of the smoke. We'll see how it turns out.
(02-11-2014, 10:07 AM)MFSuper90 Shadowmaster, what broke?
(02-11-2014, 10:07 AM)MFSuper90 Shadowmaster, what broke?
You need to scroll just past half way on the first page
http://mersuforum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph...e8638c6fa6
Sorry, wrong link , that one is for the off roader
This one is the right one i believe
http://mersuforum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph...c&start=60