Springs and sway bars for 78 300cd
Springs and sway bars for 78 300cd
03-24-2009, 02:13 PM
#1
It also looks like I can find bigger sway bars out of a TD wagon, does it matter what years? And, where can I find these? I have tried ebay with no luck as of yet.
If its of any help, my goal here is mainly to eliminate roll while keeping a nice ride. I don't want to turn it into a sports car, I just want it to feel a little less boaty.
So, I have a 78 300CD and I am looking to do some minor suspension work to it. From what I have read, it looks like I might be able to use progressive springs off of a Gas coupe. Does anyone know how these compare to my stock springs? Any difference in ride height?
It also looks like I can find bigger sway bars out of a TD wagon, does it matter what years? And, where can I find these? I have tried ebay with no luck as of yet.
If its of any help, my goal here is mainly to eliminate roll while keeping a nice ride. I don't want to turn it into a sports car, I just want it to feel a little less boaty.
03-24-2009, 03:54 PM
#2
Swaybar, turbo wagon 81 and up. Junkyards are you best bet or hitting up the other forums for people parting. Wagon springs up front with a link chopped off will probably do wonders.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Springs, same ride height, better handling.
Swaybar, turbo wagon 81 and up. Junkyards are you best bet or hitting up the other forums for people parting. Wagon springs up front with a link chopped off will probably do wonders.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
03-25-2009, 01:37 PM
#4
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Stiffer, if you have the FSM they have a complete chart of the 8 or so different springs that the W123 came in. If you are going to cut coils the best way is to start with a stiffer spring.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
06-26-2009, 05:42 PM
#6
This post was last modified: 06-26-2009, 05:42 PM by GREASY_BEAST.
09-04-2009, 12:49 AM
#7
improve the handling?
There is also a 85 wagon Iam thinking about removing the front sway bar also.
since I installed the 240D 4-speed, and later used the 240D front springs to lower the front end. going into a sharp curves on a mountain road, the handling is a little mushy. most driving the ride is great.
Installing the wagon sway bar should take out the mush and stiffen it up, right?
Charlie
There is a 79 280CE @ PNP. Installing the rear springs in my 85 300D will
improve the handling?
There is also a 85 wagon Iam thinking about removing the front sway bar also.
since I installed the 240D 4-speed, and later used the 240D front springs to lower the front end. going into a sharp curves on a mountain road, the handling is a little mushy. most driving the ride is great.
Installing the wagon sway bar should take out the mush and stiffen it up, right?
Charlie
09-04-2009, 12:57 AM
#8
(06-24-2009, 10:49 AM)Ghaniba Would this same info work for an '81 CD?
-Ghan
it should... AFAIK all the front susp. is interchangeable...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
09-04-2009, 12:57 AM #8(06-24-2009, 10:49 AM)Ghaniba Would this same info work for an '81 CD?
-Ghan
it should... AFAIK all the front susp. is interchangeable...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
09-04-2009, 08:51 AM
#9
(09-04-2009, 12:49 AM)charmalu There is a 79 280CE @ PNP. Installing the rear springs in my 85 300D willOnly if they are progressive.
improve the handling?
(09-04-2009, 12:49 AM)charmalu There is also a 85 wagon Iam thinking about removing the front sway bar also.It will help control the roll.
since I installed the 240D 4-speed, and later used the 240D front springs to lower the front end. going into a sharp curves on a mountain road, the handling is a little mushy. most driving the ride is great.
Installing the wagon sway bar should take out the mush and stiffen it up, right?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(09-04-2009, 12:49 AM)charmalu There is a 79 280CE @ PNP. Installing the rear springs in my 85 300D willOnly if they are progressive.
improve the handling?
(09-04-2009, 12:49 AM)charmalu There is also a 85 wagon Iam thinking about removing the front sway bar also.It will help control the roll.
since I installed the 240D 4-speed, and later used the 240D front springs to lower the front end. going into a sharp curves on a mountain road, the handling is a little mushy. most driving the ride is great.
Installing the wagon sway bar should take out the mush and stiffen it up, right?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
09-05-2009, 02:14 AM
#10
(09-04-2009, 12:49 AM)charmalu ....
There is also a 85 wagon Iam thinking about removing the front sway bar also.
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Charlie, Get it! And get the rear lights, fuel sender and what ever you can get from the SLS also. People always looking for those...
This post was last modified: 09-05-2009, 02:15 AM by DeliveryValve.
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DeliveryValve
09-05-2009, 02:14 AM #10(09-04-2009, 12:49 AM)charmalu ....
There is also a 85 wagon Iam thinking about removing the front sway bar also.
....
Charlie, Get it! And get the rear lights, fuel sender and what ever you can get from the SLS also. People always looking for those...
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
09-05-2009, 02:19 AM
#12
(09-05-2009, 02:15 AM)charmalu ...
Do the progressive springs have a different look to them? are they easy to identify?
Charlie
Progressive springs have tighter coil spacing in the middle of the spring while near the top and bottom ends the coil spacing is larger.
I have yet to see them on a w123.
This post was last modified: 09-05-2009, 02:20 AM by DeliveryValve.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
09-05-2009, 02:19 AM #12(09-05-2009, 02:15 AM)charmalu ...
Do the progressive springs have a different look to them? are they easy to identify?
Charlie
Progressive springs have tighter coil spacing in the middle of the spring while near the top and bottom ends the coil spacing is larger.
I have yet to see them on a w123.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
09-06-2009, 08:49 PM
#14
(09-05-2009, 02:19 AM)DeliveryValve I have yet to see them on a w123.
My euro had them. They we stock for the 280?CE. Rear only.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
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