STD Tuning Engine A OM605 for track days / rallying

A OM605 for track days / rallying

A OM605 for track days / rallying

 
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Whizbang
TA 0301

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10-17-2014, 01:21 PM #1
So the question is then, how do i manage EGTs? I see many warnings of "10 - 20 seconds of WOT" causing damage. That obviously wont work for motorsports. What are the ways of mediating this?
Whizbang
10-17-2014, 01:21 PM #1

So the question is then, how do i manage EGTs? I see many warnings of "10 - 20 seconds of WOT" causing damage. That obviously wont work for motorsports. What are the ways of mediating this?

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
10-17-2014, 02:33 PM #2
lol , i have same question since i have mine 605 driving on the 600Cº normal highway, i had 850ºC, but it was to teach some manners to a 330D driver. engine survived!!!
well i would like to hear the expecialists on that matter.
good question that one, regards

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barrote
10-17-2014, 02:33 PM #2

lol , i have same question since i have mine 605 driving on the 600Cº normal highway, i had 850ºC, but it was to teach some manners to a 330D driver. engine survived!!!
well i would like to hear the expecialists on that matter.
good question that one, regards


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raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
10-17-2014, 03:13 PM #3
Start with sensible hardware. A pump with bigger elements and one of Dieselmeken's fancy ALDA's is a good start. A good sized turbo and adequate intercooling are also on the list.

Once the car is built, identify any weak points through data collection. Weak points could include inadequate intercooling, restrictive intake path, restrictive exhaust manifold or exhaust, hot side too small, etc...

I'll be installing a 14point7 Idash to log wideband O2, 6 egt's, exhaust manifold pressure, intake manifold pressure, oil temp, IAT. That should tell me what I need to know.
raysorenson
10-17-2014, 03:13 PM #3

Start with sensible hardware. A pump with bigger elements and one of Dieselmeken's fancy ALDA's is a good start. A good sized turbo and adequate intercooling are also on the list.

Once the car is built, identify any weak points through data collection. Weak points could include inadequate intercooling, restrictive intake path, restrictive exhaust manifold or exhaust, hot side too small, etc...

I'll be installing a 14point7 Idash to log wideband O2, 6 egt's, exhaust manifold pressure, intake manifold pressure, oil temp, IAT. That should tell me what I need to know.

Ekstra
Naturally-aspirated

16
10-17-2014, 08:23 PM #4
What kind of intercooling hardware are you set up with?
Ekstra
10-17-2014, 08:23 PM #4

What kind of intercooling hardware are you set up with?

pmj4147
T04R + TD06

42
10-19-2014, 01:50 AM #5
i'm running OM662(602) with 7.5mm, 25G turbo

hitting 1200 degree C Everyday!!! Cylinder head still going well.

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2002. 09 Ssangyong Musso SUT
OM662STP + 7.5mm + TD06-25G with customized 84mm compressor(2.4Bar)
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2002. 12 Ssangyong Korando
OM662LA 2.9ltr + RS191 5.5mm stock
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pmj4147
10-19-2014, 01:50 AM #5

i'm running OM662(602) with 7.5mm, 25G turbo

hitting 1200 degree C Everyday!!! Cylinder head still going well.


-------------------------------------------
2002. 09 Ssangyong Musso SUT
OM662STP + 7.5mm + TD06-25G with customized 84mm compressor(2.4Bar)
-------------------------------------------
2002. 12 Ssangyong Korando
OM662LA 2.9ltr + RS191 5.5mm stock
-------------------------------------------

Turbo
Holset

489
10-19-2014, 05:03 AM #6
I see some melted turbine on a diesel, if it really 1200 degree Celsius I guess we will have another one soon if not all-ready. Modern turbos is to withstand 1050 degress, yet another 150 degrees is much. It is a matter of secunds before something melt. what kind of gauge do you use to measuring 1200 degrees?


(10-19-2014, 01:50 AM)pmj4147 i'm running OM662(602) with 7.5mm, 25G turbo

hitting 1200 degree C Everyday!!! Cylinder head still going well.
Turbo
10-19-2014, 05:03 AM #6

I see some melted turbine on a diesel, if it really 1200 degree Celsius I guess we will have another one soon if not all-ready. Modern turbos is to withstand 1050 degress, yet another 150 degrees is much. It is a matter of secunds before something melt. what kind of gauge do you use to measuring 1200 degrees?


(10-19-2014, 01:50 AM)pmj4147 i'm running OM662(602) with 7.5mm, 25G turbo

hitting 1200 degree C Everyday!!! Cylinder head still going well.

pmj4147
T04R + TD06

42
10-27-2014, 10:45 PM #7
(10-19-2014, 05:03 AM)Turbo I see some melted turbine on a diesel, if it really 1200 degree Celsius I guess we will have another one soon if not all-ready. Modern turbos is to withstand 1050 degress, yet another 150 degrees is much. It is a matter of secunds before something melt. what kind of gauge do you use to measuring 1200 degrees?


[quote='pmj4147' pid='67114' dateline='1413701458']
i'm running OM662(602) with 7.5mm, 25G turbo

hitting 1200 degree C Everyday!!! Cylinder head still going well.



I'm using 'defi', 'Greddy' meter to moniter engine condition..
pretty accurate guages.

And i never melted anything but journal bearings Big Grin
This post was last modified: 10-27-2014, 10:46 PM by pmj4147.

-------------------------------------------
2002. 09 Ssangyong Musso SUT
OM662STP + 7.5mm + TD06-25G with customized 84mm compressor(2.4Bar)
-------------------------------------------
2002. 12 Ssangyong Korando
OM662LA 2.9ltr + RS191 5.5mm stock
-------------------------------------------
pmj4147
10-27-2014, 10:45 PM #7

(10-19-2014, 05:03 AM)Turbo I see some melted turbine on a diesel, if it really 1200 degree Celsius I guess we will have another one soon if not all-ready. Modern turbos is to withstand 1050 degress, yet another 150 degrees is much. It is a matter of secunds before something melt. what kind of gauge do you use to measuring 1200 degrees?


[quote='pmj4147' pid='67114' dateline='1413701458']
i'm running OM662(602) with 7.5mm, 25G turbo

hitting 1200 degree C Everyday!!! Cylinder head still going well.



I'm using 'defi', 'Greddy' meter to moniter engine condition..
pretty accurate guages.

And i never melted anything but journal bearings Big Grin


-------------------------------------------
2002. 09 Ssangyong Musso SUT
OM662STP + 7.5mm + TD06-25G with customized 84mm compressor(2.4Bar)
-------------------------------------------
2002. 12 Ssangyong Korando
OM662LA 2.9ltr + RS191 5.5mm stock
-------------------------------------------

 
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