Differential interchanges
Differential interchanges
merc84
11-02-2014, 12:35 PM #51Hey everyone. Im new to all this. I've gained quite a bit of knowledge on the W 126 chassis so far, but I have a w126 2nd Gen 2.47 LSD diff off a 560 sel that I want to put in my 300 SD 84 1st gen W 126. From what I've read I believe I can swap out the entire subframe to use that diff but I was curious to know if I'm able to swap the gears out of the 2nd gen diff (2.47 lsd) into the first gen housing (3.07) without any problems. Any information would be helpful thanks.
althou, i suspect you have to fabricate something at the back that will hold the differential in place, up in the chassi, those are different to...
if you live in canada, the easiest thing would be to get a differential from a 380SE 1982-1985 and put that in there....
+ you will have to swap the flange on your diff if you are getting the diff from a v8 car to a inline engine (the flange are bigger)
edit: if you have a 300SD you have the small house, the internals will NOT fit, the housings are of a totaly different size....
do you want the LSD or better gearing? as a canadian you might have a better chance of finding a LSD than in USA
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w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
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swampmonkey
11-02-2014, 03:33 PM #52every house differs a bit, and every gear differ a bit, id say you will have a easier job swaping the subframe than switching the internals...
althou, i suspect you have to fabricate something at the back that will hold the differential in place, up in the chassi, those are different to...
if you live in canada, the easiest thing would be to get a differential from a 380SE 1982-1985 and put that in there....
+ you will have to swap the flange on your diff if you are getting the diff from a v8 car to a inline engine (the flange are bigger)
edit: if you have a 300SD you have the small house, the internals will NOT fit, the housings are of a totaly different size....
do you want the LSD or better gearing? as a canadian you might have a better chance of finding a LSD than in USA
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
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RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
If you have the chance, get a 2:65 LSD from a W116. Direct bolt on in a W123 except you need to change out the yoke, but it's a good time to replace all the seals anyways since you have it on the bench. I got a machinist to swap out the seals since you will need a 0-20 inch torque wrench. Well worth an hour at the machinist. Running a 300D NA with manual and the car is not slow or sluggish.
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
I would also make the jump that the reason mercedes used that "middle" value between the 3.07 and 2.47 is to make it have a decent get up and go whilst keeping the top speed acceptable.
Please respond because i would love to hit 160 with my 617 turbo (obviously not stock).
SupremeTurbo617
11-04-2014, 10:43 PM #54Maybe I am missing something obvious here but a lower gear set (2.47) will reduce my acceleration potential but increase my max speed due to lower rpms for the same speed. Thus (numbers not to scale) 90mph at 3200 with the 2.47 compared to 90 mph at 4000 with the 2.8X though to get to that point it will have to work harder to turn the wheels due to that lower ratio. So by going up to a 3.07 i will get a peppier off the line but reduce my top speed. Of course that is assuming that the inverse is true.
I would also make the jump that the reason mercedes used that "middle" value between the 3.07 and 2.47 is to make it have a decent get up and go whilst keeping the top speed acceptable.
Please respond because i would love to hit 160 with my 617 turbo (obviously not stock).
but if you upgrade gearbox+engine, a 2.47 might suit your need.
and no, acceleration wont be crazy slower anyhow... slower yes, but barely "noticable"
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
11-05-2014, 08:02 AM #55you need quite a lot of power to get the om617 to get you up to 160mph... despite gearing...
but if you upgrade gearbox+engine, a 2.47 might suit your need.
and no, acceleration wont be crazy slower anyhow... slower yes, but barely "noticable"
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
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