Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2
Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2
02-03-2013, 07:11 AM
#51
(02-02-2013, 01:17 PM)TheDon Does any 722.6 work with the controller, even 722.605?Hi yes it work width any 722.6
But alway try to find as new as possible, they had only got better and better during time, there has been made a lot of changes during the years.
And the strongest is W5A580
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-02-2013, 01:17 PM)TheDon Does any 722.6 work with the controller, even 722.605?Hi yes it work width any 722.6
But alway try to find as new as possible, they had only got better and better during time, there has been made a lot of changes during the years.
And the strongest is W5A580
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-11-2013, 09:19 AM
#53
I was reading your document on the controller and the part related to the gear lever,
"Gear Lever and plug (it has to be the one with a “1” see red squre on picture)
And the plug is a 10 pin, and have 8 wire out, thats the one we need
If you are in the Marked for a GearLever, be aware that the GB (RHD), ones is also mirrord, compared to the LHD ones, an other thing is that the one from W210 is longer then the W202, and R129 it is the short that fits the W124 and older G class, "
So, if I find a gear lever set up from a W202 or R129 with the "1" it will bolt in to my W124?
Secondly,
The 722.6 is an electronic out put for the speed, I believe the 400E uses an electronic spedo, so is there a way to make it work with the 722.6?
Lastly,
The throttle position sensor from a w210 is needed for the conversion, how did you implement that into your car? I am curious to see how it receives throttle position and then the injection pump also gets input from the cable.
More questions
I was reading your document on the controller and the part related to the gear lever,
"Gear Lever and plug (it has to be the one with a “1” see red squre on picture)
And the plug is a 10 pin, and have 8 wire out, thats the one we need
If you are in the Marked for a GearLever, be aware that the GB (RHD), ones is also mirrord, compared to the LHD ones, an other thing is that the one from W210 is longer then the W202, and R129 it is the short that fits the W124 and older G class, "
So, if I find a gear lever set up from a W202 or R129 with the "1" it will bolt in to my W124?
Secondly,
The 722.6 is an electronic out put for the speed, I believe the 400E uses an electronic spedo, so is there a way to make it work with the 722.6?
Lastly,
The throttle position sensor from a w210 is needed for the conversion, how did you implement that into your car? I am curious to see how it receives throttle position and then the injection pump also gets input from the cable.
02-11-2013, 02:44 PM
#54
(02-11-2013, 09:19 AM)TheDon More questionsYes i have heard that the W202 Gearlever should fit in an W124, but to be 100% shure, visit a scrap yard and have the W124 original and a W202 in you hands to compare, meaby someone here knows for sure ?
I was reading your document on the controller and the part related to the gear lever,
"Gear Lever and plug (it has to be the one with a “1” see red squre on picture)
And the plug is a 10 pin, and have 8 wire out, thats the one we need
If you are in the Marked for a GearLever, be aware that the GB (RHD), ones is also mirrord, compared to the LHD ones, an other thing is that the one from W210 is longer then the W202, and R129 it is the short that fits the W124 and older G class, "
So, if I find a gear lever set up from a W202 or R129 with the "1" it will bolt in to my W124?
Secondly,
The 722.6 is an electronic out put for the speed, I believe the 400E uses an electronic spedo, so is there a way to make it work with the 722.6?
Lastly,
The throttle position sensor from a w210 is needed for the conversion, how did you implement that into your car? I am curious to see how it receives throttle position and then the injection pump also gets input from the cable.
Regarding TPS sensor.
Think as it this way. the throttle cable is moving the lever on the Injection pump all mechanically. but at the same time throttle cable has to move an TPS sensor, as i need that signal to know the momentum of the engine Hard/soft shift.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-11-2013, 09:19 AM)TheDon More questionsYes i have heard that the W202 Gearlever should fit in an W124, but to be 100% shure, visit a scrap yard and have the W124 original and a W202 in you hands to compare, meaby someone here knows for sure ?
I was reading your document on the controller and the part related to the gear lever,
"Gear Lever and plug (it has to be the one with a “1” see red squre on picture)
And the plug is a 10 pin, and have 8 wire out, thats the one we need
If you are in the Marked for a GearLever, be aware that the GB (RHD), ones is also mirrord, compared to the LHD ones, an other thing is that the one from W210 is longer then the W202, and R129 it is the short that fits the W124 and older G class, "
So, if I find a gear lever set up from a W202 or R129 with the "1" it will bolt in to my W124?
Secondly,
The 722.6 is an electronic out put for the speed, I believe the 400E uses an electronic spedo, so is there a way to make it work with the 722.6?
Lastly,
The throttle position sensor from a w210 is needed for the conversion, how did you implement that into your car? I am curious to see how it receives throttle position and then the injection pump also gets input from the cable.
Regarding TPS sensor.
Think as it this way. the throttle cable is moving the lever on the Injection pump all mechanically. but at the same time throttle cable has to move an TPS sensor, as i need that signal to know the momentum of the engine Hard/soft shift.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-11-2013, 03:41 PM
#55
I'll meditate on your words on the TPS sensor. I think I may have an idea how it works.I might be able to adapt the bowden cable mount for it and just make a linkage for it.
I am saving up for one of your controllers!!
This post was last modified: 02-11-2013, 03:44 PM by TheDon.
I plan on playing in the junk yard with parts, as long as I can find a W202 with that type of shifter, I found 3 W210's with it but that wont fit.
I'll meditate on your words on the TPS sensor. I think I may have an idea how it works.I might be able to adapt the bowden cable mount for it and just make a linkage for it.
I am saving up for one of your controllers!!
02-11-2013, 04:02 PM
#56
(02-11-2013, 03:41 PM)TheDon I plan on playing in the junk yard with parts, as long as I can find a W202 with that type of shifter, I found 3 W210's with it but that wont fit.Take a good look at this picture, The TPS sensor is mountet below the Crouse controller, by an homemade bracket, but if it not has cruise controle, there is a lot more space to make something special
I'll meditate on your words on the TPS sensor. I think I may have an idea how it works.I might be able to adapt the bowden cable mount for it and just make a linkage for it.
I am saving up for one of your controllers!!
This post was last modified: 02-11-2013, 04:05 PM by olefejer.
Attached Files
Image(s)1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-11-2013, 03:41 PM)TheDon I plan on playing in the junk yard with parts, as long as I can find a W202 with that type of shifter, I found 3 W210's with it but that wont fit.Take a good look at this picture, The TPS sensor is mountet below the Crouse controller, by an homemade bracket, but if it not has cruise controle, there is a lot more space to make something special
I'll meditate on your words on the TPS sensor. I think I may have an idea how it works.I might be able to adapt the bowden cable mount for it and just make a linkage for it.
I am saving up for one of your controllers!!
Attached Files
Image(s)1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-14-2013, 01:28 PM
#58
Olefejer, can you set up the voltage for the pot the way you want? Ex: 0-5v or 5-0v, or if the installation doesn't provide for full travel of the potentiometer can it work with 1-3.5v and vice versa?
raysorenson
02-14-2013, 01:28 PM #58You can also mount a string potentiometer. This type of pot may give you more installation flexibility than a regular pot since the "string" part could replace any lever that might be used to rotate the potentiometer.
Olefejer, can you set up the voltage for the pot the way you want? Ex: 0-5v or 5-0v, or if the installation doesn't provide for full travel of the potentiometer can it work with 1-3.5v and vice versa?
02-14-2013, 03:05 PM
#59
(02-14-2013, 01:28 PM)raysorenson You can also mount a string potentiometer. This type of pot may give you more installation flexibility than a regular pot since the "string" part could replace any lever that might be used to rotate the potentiometer.Almost any Potentiometer would work, also linear
Olefejer, can you set up the voltage for the pot the way you want? Ex: 0-5v or 5-0v, or if the installation doesn't provide for full travel of the potentiometer can it work with 1-3.5v and vice versa?
1 - 3,5 volt is fine, actually there is a setup TPS menu.
Where you press the joystick up width 0% trottle.
And then flor it and press the joystick down,
Then the controller know the 2 points and transform to 0 - 100% trottle
it do not accept 5 - 0 volt, but just switch the 0 and 5V :-)
This is settings for the MB sensor
0%=75 is 75/1024*5 = 0.37 Volt
100%=903 is 903/1024*5 = 4.41 Volt
This post was last modified: 02-14-2013, 03:09 PM by olefejer.
Attached Files
Image(s)1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-14-2013, 01:28 PM)raysorenson You can also mount a string potentiometer. This type of pot may give you more installation flexibility than a regular pot since the "string" part could replace any lever that might be used to rotate the potentiometer.Almost any Potentiometer would work, also linear
Olefejer, can you set up the voltage for the pot the way you want? Ex: 0-5v or 5-0v, or if the installation doesn't provide for full travel of the potentiometer can it work with 1-3.5v and vice versa?
1 - 3,5 volt is fine, actually there is a setup TPS menu.
Where you press the joystick up width 0% trottle.
And then flor it and press the joystick down,
Then the controller know the 2 points and transform to 0 - 100% trottle
it do not accept 5 - 0 volt, but just switch the 0 and 5V :-)
This is settings for the MB sensor
0%=75 is 75/1024*5 = 0.37 Volt
100%=903 is 903/1024*5 = 4.41 Volt
Attached Files
Image(s)1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-15-2013, 01:41 PM
#61
(02-14-2013, 09:34 PM)kmaser How much does one of these controllers sell for? Sounds awesome, I have been wondering about adapting a 722.6 behind my 617a. I thought it might be possible with a 722.6 from a Chrysler product that has the starter in the same side as a 617?Hi The price for Controller + (LCD / Joystick) + Capling 450€ = 600$
But not the plugs as i have not found a good source.
Here is one i made, he send me the plugs and i put it on to the wiring harness.
And last if the Chrysler gearbox plug is the same it should work.
Attached Files
Image(s)1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-14-2013, 09:34 PM)kmaser How much does one of these controllers sell for? Sounds awesome, I have been wondering about adapting a 722.6 behind my 617a. I thought it might be possible with a 722.6 from a Chrysler product that has the starter in the same side as a 617?Hi The price for Controller + (LCD / Joystick) + Capling 450€ = 600$
But not the plugs as i have not found a good source.
Here is one i made, he send me the plugs and i put it on to the wiring harness.
And last if the Chrysler gearbox plug is the same it should work.
Attached Files
Image(s)1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-17-2013, 02:11 PM
#62
But for the w124 you need one from a w202 or R129 because the w210 and others won't fit. I did a little experimenting at the junkyard.
![[Image: 5B3998E6-D624-4223-93B3-54181E88164B-173...407f28.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/skateboarderx24/5B3998E6-D624-4223-93B3-54181E88164B-17337-00001849269EE0B5_zps97407f28.jpg)
It bolts in and everything but the cross piece for the switch mounting and gear lever would need to be trimmed. Plus the wood trim would also need to be trimmed to fit.
I just bought an R129 gear lever from ebay for $62 shipped. They originally wanted $99 plus shipping but I offered $50 and they took it.It just needs a knob as well. Once I receive it ill inspect it for any liquid damage.
I also didn't score any TPS's from the 210's in the yard. They were all taken.
(sorry if I am posting too much in this thread Olefejer)
This post was last modified: 02-17-2013, 09:52 PM by TheDon.
For those interested in this swap the gear lever is important.
But for the w124 you need one from a w202 or R129 because the w210 and others won't fit. I did a little experimenting at the junkyard.
It bolts in and everything but the cross piece for the switch mounting and gear lever would need to be trimmed. Plus the wood trim would also need to be trimmed to fit.
I just bought an R129 gear lever from ebay for $62 shipped. They originally wanted $99 plus shipping but I offered $50 and they took it.It just needs a knob as well. Once I receive it ill inspect it for any liquid damage.
I also didn't score any TPS's from the 210's in the yard. They were all taken.
(sorry if I am posting too much in this thread Olefejer)
02-18-2013, 01:46 PM
#63
(02-17-2013, 02:11 PM)TheDon For those interested in this swap the gear lever is important.You just post all you want, nice information. anyone can use.
But for the w124 you need one from a w202 or R129 because the w210 and others won't fit. I did a little experimenting at the junkyard.
It bolts in and everything but the cross piece for the switch mounting and gear lever would need to be trimmed. Plus the wood trim would also need to be trimmed to fit.
I just bought an R129 gear lever from ebay for $62 shipped. They originally wanted $99 plus shipping but I offered $50 and they took it.It just needs a knob as well. Once I receive it ill inspect it for any liquid damage.
I also didn't score any TPS's from the 210's in the yard. They were all taken.
(sorry if I am posting too much in this thread Olefejer)
By the way the TPS sensor is also mounted on the C Class from 1996 and up
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-17-2013, 02:11 PM)TheDon For those interested in this swap the gear lever is important.You just post all you want, nice information. anyone can use.
But for the w124 you need one from a w202 or R129 because the w210 and others won't fit. I did a little experimenting at the junkyard.
It bolts in and everything but the cross piece for the switch mounting and gear lever would need to be trimmed. Plus the wood trim would also need to be trimmed to fit.
I just bought an R129 gear lever from ebay for $62 shipped. They originally wanted $99 plus shipping but I offered $50 and they took it.It just needs a knob as well. Once I receive it ill inspect it for any liquid damage.
I also didn't score any TPS's from the 210's in the yard. They were all taken.
(sorry if I am posting too much in this thread Olefejer)
By the way the TPS sensor is also mounted on the C Class from 1996 and up
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-18-2013, 05:34 PM
#64
Only thing left now is to get your controller.
Would you happen to know if the output yoke will work with the 124 flex discs/ drive shaft? I haven't done any measurements yet
side note, the 722.6 does not come with any form of dipstick. I thought the junk yard people had removed the dip stick(I think they trash them all or maybe other grab them before I can) But the car was missing it, I just discovered in EPC that its just a cover that goes on the dip stick and a separate "dipstick tool" is required to check the fluid level.
This post was last modified: 02-18-2013, 08:38 PM by TheDon.
I went by what it looked like so I left the tps that I found. I guess I'll have to grab one ASAP!
Only thing left now is to get your controller.
Would you happen to know if the output yoke will work with the 124 flex discs/ drive shaft? I haven't done any measurements yet
side note, the 722.6 does not come with any form of dipstick. I thought the junk yard people had removed the dip stick(I think they trash them all or maybe other grab them before I can) But the car was missing it, I just discovered in EPC that its just a cover that goes on the dip stick and a separate "dipstick tool" is required to check the fluid level.
02-21-2013, 04:19 PM
#65
(02-18-2013, 05:34 PM)TheDon I went by what it looked like so I left the tps that I found. I guess I'll have to grab one ASAP!I am not sure that you flex discs will fit, as i think they are smaller on the W124 you have to measure,
Only thing left now is to get your controller.
Would you happen to know if the output yoke will work with the 124 flex discs/ drive shaft? I haven't done any measurements yet
side note, the 722.6 does not come with any form of dipstick. I thought the junk yard people had removed the dip stick(I think they trash them all or maybe other grab them before I can) But the car was missing it, I just discovered in EPC that its just a cover that goes on the dip stick and a separate "dipstick tool" is required to check the fluid level.
The 722.6 Newer has a dipstick, but you need one to fill it correct, and that is weary important that it has the right level.
But you can make you own from a thin white PVC pipe or something,
You can see measurement in this document, almost at the end
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_WiB...QHUNI/edit
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-18-2013, 05:34 PM)TheDon I went by what it looked like so I left the tps that I found. I guess I'll have to grab one ASAP!I am not sure that you flex discs will fit, as i think they are smaller on the W124 you have to measure,
Only thing left now is to get your controller.
Would you happen to know if the output yoke will work with the 124 flex discs/ drive shaft? I haven't done any measurements yet
side note, the 722.6 does not come with any form of dipstick. I thought the junk yard people had removed the dip stick(I think they trash them all or maybe other grab them before I can) But the car was missing it, I just discovered in EPC that its just a cover that goes on the dip stick and a separate "dipstick tool" is required to check the fluid level.
The 722.6 Newer has a dipstick, but you need one to fill it correct, and that is weary important that it has the right level.
But you can make you own from a thin white PVC pipe or something,
You can see measurement in this document, almost at the end
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_WiB...QHUNI/edit
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-23-2013, 04:40 AM
#67
(02-22-2013, 12:44 PM)TheDon Mine came with a dipstick but was missing the locking cover. I ordered a new cover and lock and will order the dip stick tool. the 722.6 has to have the exact fluid level or it can do damageReally yours had one, then i take my words back :-)
I got mine from here.
http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_webcata...button.y=0
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-22-2013, 12:44 PM)TheDon Mine came with a dipstick but was missing the locking cover. I ordered a new cover and lock and will order the dip stick tool. the 722.6 has to have the exact fluid level or it can do damageReally yours had one, then i take my words back :-)
I got mine from here.
http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_webcata...button.y=0
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-23-2013, 09:25 AM
#68
![[Image: 538293_10151220267856534_700272287_n.jpg]](https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/538293_10151220267856534_700272287_n.jpg)
See, dip stick tube included.
11 Euros for the tool is nice, they go for about $16-20 on ebay here for the knock off version or $80 for the official version from Samstagsales.com
![[Image: FAA1F864-9517-4C12-B866-D1FD7ECA3E35-355...4e29e9.jpg]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/skateboarderx24/FAA1F864-9517-4C12-B866-D1FD7ECA3E35-3559-0000046B4B3FCCCB_zps954e29e9.jpg)
R129 shifter minus shift knob
I believe up until the early 2000's they had dip stick tubes. The cover has a red lock tab that is broken to unlock it and replaced every time you need to check the fluid.
See, dip stick tube included.
11 Euros for the tool is nice, they go for about $16-20 on ebay here for the knock off version or $80 for the official version from Samstagsales.com
R129 shifter minus shift knob
03-13-2013, 10:44 AM
#69
I am interested in finding someone to make an adapter from 617 to 722.6, Can you tell me the length of the 722.6 so I can compare to the length of a 722.3? Also has anybody had the 2 side by side to see how far off the bolt pattern is? I have only ever heard of one 722.6 being adapted to a 617 by the guy who sells the PCS controller but he was unable to tell me who it was.
03-13-2013, 08:51 PM
#70
(03-13-2013, 10:44 AM)kmaser I am interested in finding someone to make an adapter from 617 to 722.6
You could try this method:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-4280.html
I'd likely try it some day if I resurrect the 617...
This post was last modified: 03-13-2013, 08:52 PM by SurfRodder.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
03-13-2013, 08:51 PM #70(03-13-2013, 10:44 AM)kmaser I am interested in finding someone to make an adapter from 617 to 722.6
You could try this method:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-4280.html
I'd likely try it some day if I resurrect the 617...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
03-18-2013, 07:47 AM
#72
(03-18-2013, 04:34 AM)Eric78 This wouldn't work with a 722.9 would it?Hi
No it is only for the 722.6.
The 722.9 is CAN controlled.
But the complete controlunit inside the box can be taken out, and the wire form the solonoids controlled directly from the controller would be possible. but a lot of special work on the gearbox to get this to work.
And a lot of software work for me.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(03-18-2013, 04:34 AM)Eric78 This wouldn't work with a 722.9 would it?Hi
No it is only for the 722.6.
The 722.9 is CAN controlled.
But the complete controlunit inside the box can be taken out, and the wire form the solonoids controlled directly from the controller would be possible. but a lot of special work on the gearbox to get this to work.
And a lot of software work for me.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
03-18-2013, 11:57 PM
#73
(03-18-2013, 07:47 AM)olefejerNot to worry, I've just bought a 722.636(03-18-2013, 04:34 AM)Eric78 This wouldn't work with a 722.9 would it?Hi
No it is only for the 722.6.
The 722.9 is CAN controlled.
But the complete controlunit inside the box can be taken out, and the wire form the solonoids controlled directly from the controller would be possible. but a lot of special work on the gearbox to get this to work.
And a lot of software work for me.
(03-18-2013, 07:47 AM)olefejerNot to worry, I've just bought a 722.636(03-18-2013, 04:34 AM)Eric78 This wouldn't work with a 722.9 would it?Hi
No it is only for the 722.6.
The 722.9 is CAN controlled.
But the complete controlunit inside the box can be taken out, and the wire form the solonoids controlled directly from the controller would be possible. but a lot of special work on the gearbox to get this to work.
And a lot of software work for me.
03-21-2013, 08:55 AM
#74
I think it would have a problem fitting in the tunnel bay?
722.6 looks much thinker then the 722.4.
The 722.5 does fit, so i have to decide if im going to use a 722.5, or a 722.6
(I really want a fifth gear in a automatic)
And is your software opensource? Its arduino based right?
1986 W201 190D 2.5 Diesel
Would a 722.6 fit a 190D 2.5 OM602?
I think it would have a problem fitting in the tunnel bay?
722.6 looks much thinker then the 722.4.
The 722.5 does fit, so i have to decide if im going to use a 722.5, or a 722.6
(I really want a fifth gear in a automatic)
And is your software opensource? Its arduino based right?
1986 W201 190D 2.5 Diesel
03-21-2013, 02:57 PM
#75
(03-21-2013, 08:55 AM)SuperCow And is your software opensource? Its arduino based right?Hi
No the software is not opensource, and it will not be. sorry
And yes the Board witch hold the Microprocessor is Arduino. (MEGA 2560)
But I constantly try to make it better.
I now work on an option,
Where you can rate the last gearshift, if you think it was to hard, you push the joystick down after the shift, then that exact SHIFT at that exact LOAD will be more gentle next time.
There will be 10 point for all shifts
It makes it more unfriendly.
This post was last modified: 03-21-2013, 02:59 PM by olefejer.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(03-21-2013, 08:55 AM)SuperCow And is your software opensource? Its arduino based right?Hi
No the software is not opensource, and it will not be. sorry
And yes the Board witch hold the Microprocessor is Arduino. (MEGA 2560)
But I constantly try to make it better.
I now work on an option,
Where you can rate the last gearshift, if you think it was to hard, you push the joystick down after the shift, then that exact SHIFT at that exact LOAD will be more gentle next time.
There will be 10 point for all shifts
It makes it more unfriendly.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
03-22-2013, 03:07 PM
#77
(03-22-2013, 02:31 AM)Eric78 With this is there anyway to adjust the transmission's speedo signal for different diff ratios & tyre circumferences?Hi Yes sure it can be adjusted no-matter if you use external speed signal or the signal calculated from the speed sensors in the box
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(03-22-2013, 02:31 AM)Eric78 With this is there anyway to adjust the transmission's speedo signal for different diff ratios & tyre circumferences?Hi Yes sure it can be adjusted no-matter if you use external speed signal or the signal calculated from the speed sensors in the box
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
03-26-2013, 11:28 AM
#80
(03-26-2013, 02:41 AM)Eric78 I plan on installing an in-car computer & touchscreen running Centrafuse, (probably on a windows or linux OS), would it be possible link in the gearbox controller to control features, & monitor information through the touchscreen computer?
Hey yes it is possible i can send any data to an RX/TX serial Port at the speed you want maybe 9600 baud,
But to send data back to the controller to control it, is not possible
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(03-26-2013, 02:41 AM)Eric78 I plan on installing an in-car computer & touchscreen running Centrafuse, (probably on a windows or linux OS), would it be possible link in the gearbox controller to control features, & monitor information through the touchscreen computer?
Hey yes it is possible i can send any data to an RX/TX serial Port at the speed you want maybe 9600 baud,
But to send data back to the controller to control it, is not possible
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
03-27-2013, 06:52 PM
#81
You could possibly adapt the meters of this project http://dmn.kuulalaakeri.org/vnt-lda/ to dispaly live data. There is this version as well http://dmn.kuulalaakeri.org/dmn-edc/ which is more gauge orientated. You will need to do a bit of work to get it all to work but they are good examples to start from.
05-10-2013, 09:42 PM
#82
Olefejer, do you have an input in the controller for a brake sensor, or maybe 2 actually. (one would already be great thought)
We could possibly adjust 1 or 2 inductive sensor on the brake pedal, like small braking and heavy breaking.
From there you can control with Brake force vs gear selected and engine rpm the automatic down shift while braking or heavy braking.
It is more and more inputs, but i think that can be a nice feature for people who pull loads or simply want to improve engine breaking. Your device can probably manage that as well, just as the newer gearbox do.
I tried that on a recent G 300 professional and it is great, the gear shift down on medium braking and stay there until you re accelerate.
Just an idea
Hi All.
Olefejer, do you have an input in the controller for a brake sensor, or maybe 2 actually. (one would already be great thought)
We could possibly adjust 1 or 2 inductive sensor on the brake pedal, like small braking and heavy breaking.
From there you can control with Brake force vs gear selected and engine rpm the automatic down shift while braking or heavy braking.
It is more and more inputs, but i think that can be a nice feature for people who pull loads or simply want to improve engine breaking. Your device can probably manage that as well, just as the newer gearbox do.
I tried that on a recent G 300 professional and it is great, the gear shift down on medium braking and stay there until you re accelerate.
Just an idea
05-12-2013, 06:22 AM
#83
(05-10-2013, 09:42 PM)syche Hi All.
Olefejer, do you have an input in the controller for a brake sensor, or maybe 2 actually. (one would already be great thought)
We could possibly adjust 1 or 2 inductive sensor on the brake pedal, like small braking and heavy breaking.
From there you can control with Brake force vs gear selected and engine rpm the automatic down shift while braking or heavy braking.
It is more and more inputs, but i think that can be a nice feature for people who pull loads or simply want to improve engine breaking. Your device can probably manage that as well, just as the newer gearbox do.
I tried that on a recent G 300 professional and it is great, the gear shift down on medium braking and stay there until you re accelerate.
Just an idea
Hi
Thanks For the input, that is always great, :-)
I still have enough input to make enhancement, actually 2 opto isolatet
inputs to take the 12V direct from the brake switch.
I will think about it.
But i thing that most Mercedes G Class people run it in manually when they are racing.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(05-10-2013, 09:42 PM)syche Hi All.
Olefejer, do you have an input in the controller for a brake sensor, or maybe 2 actually. (one would already be great thought)
We could possibly adjust 1 or 2 inductive sensor on the brake pedal, like small braking and heavy breaking.
From there you can control with Brake force vs gear selected and engine rpm the automatic down shift while braking or heavy braking.
It is more and more inputs, but i think that can be a nice feature for people who pull loads or simply want to improve engine breaking. Your device can probably manage that as well, just as the newer gearbox do.
I tried that on a recent G 300 professional and it is great, the gear shift down on medium braking and stay there until you re accelerate.
Just an idea
Hi
Thanks For the input, that is always great, :-)
I still have enough input to make enhancement, actually 2 opto isolatet
inputs to take the 12V direct from the brake switch.
I will think about it.
But i thing that most Mercedes G Class people run it in manually when they are racing.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
05-12-2013, 09:51 PM
#84
Well, not really talking about racing, but more like pulling heavy loads or simply mountains roads.
You don't want to use the brake switch since this one would be too sensitive for the down shift, you don't want to down shift when you just feather touch the brakes.
1 sensor would already be great i think, it reduce the need for brakes and ease the drive. On top of it, for G's amateur, the brakes aren't the best on most models, that would be a nice feature.
Hi Ole.
Well, not really talking about racing, but more like pulling heavy loads or simply mountains roads.
You don't want to use the brake switch since this one would be too sensitive for the down shift, you don't want to down shift when you just feather touch the brakes.
1 sensor would already be great i think, it reduce the need for brakes and ease the drive. On top of it, for G's amateur, the brakes aren't the best on most models, that would be a nice feature.
07-21-2013, 12:44 PM
#86
(07-20-2013, 01:55 PM)oleg213 how to connect an analog speedometer to 722.6,Hi i have only testet the Speed output on an old mercedes Speedometer.
or are there other options for the driver information about the speed?
Do you have any information on the analog Speedometer ? datasheet ?
There is also speed shown on the display, in live data.
And it can also be send out over serial port RX/TX
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(07-20-2013, 01:55 PM)oleg213 how to connect an analog speedometer to 722.6,Hi i have only testet the Speed output on an old mercedes Speedometer.
or are there other options for the driver information about the speed?
Do you have any information on the analog Speedometer ? datasheet ?
There is also speed shown on the display, in live data.
And it can also be send out over serial port RX/TX
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
02-12-2014, 04:48 AM
#89
(02-12-2014, 03:30 AM)street_666 Hi are You making still those controlers?Hi
Yes i can make you one.
You can write to me at olefejer@gmail.com
Ole
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(02-12-2014, 03:30 AM)street_666 Hi are You making still those controlers?Hi
Yes i can make you one.
You can write to me at olefejer@gmail.com
Ole
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
08-08-2014, 08:49 PM
#91
(08-08-2014, 02:58 PM)Petar Would this work for a gasoline engine ? (rain fire on me for asking this on a diesel forum)
I think the engine doesn't matter, it's a gearbox controller with a boost control feature, it was specifically designed so that th transmission would ignore the engine.
08-09-2014, 10:42 AM
#92
(08-08-2014, 02:58 PM)Petar Would this work for a gasoline engine ? (rain fire on me for asking this on a diesel forumHi
Yes Erik78 is Correct, it does not matter what engine you use, it run on its own. only the parameters are changed a bit to shift at higher RPM when Gasoline engine.
Ole
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(08-08-2014, 02:58 PM)Petar Would this work for a gasoline engine ? (rain fire on me for asking this on a diesel forumHi
Yes Erik78 is Correct, it does not matter what engine you use, it run on its own. only the parameters are changed a bit to shift at higher RPM when Gasoline engine.
Ole
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
12-07-2014, 07:46 AM
#93
Does your controller and the stock ecu work without issues?
thanks Peter
Stupid question from me as it is a stand alone controller for a gearbox :-)
This post was last modified: 12-09-2014, 02:07 PM by peter.
94´E 300D ,white , black leather interior, om606.910,MB 5speed shifter
I have a w210 om606 td and i asked my self if this controller can be used without changing the ecu?
Does your controller and the stock ecu work without issues?
thanks Peter
Stupid question from me as it is a stand alone controller for a gearbox :-)
94´E 300D ,white , black leather interior, om606.910,MB 5speed shifter
12-16-2014, 08:02 AM
#94
Yes Erik78 is Correct, it does not matter what engine you use, it run on its own. only the parameters are changed a bit to shift at higher RPM when Gasoline engine.
Ole
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Good days Mr Olejefer,
As i understood u have a means of controling a autogearbox, independent of the car and engine electronics?
If so, would your controller be able to control a 722.6xx wich came out of a w203 270 CDI, when installed in a w124 126, with a 605 N/A engine converted to STD with a PES5 60C320 RS 21 injection pump?
If so , is this controler able to control the gearbox in the same order of work expected from a manual gearbox, i mean shifting up und down , WHEN I WANT, with the exception of reverse?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
FD,
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Hi
Yes Erik78 is Correct, it does not matter what engine you use, it run on its own. only the parameters are changed a bit to shift at higher RPM when Gasoline engine.
Ole
[/quote]
Good days Mr Olejefer,
As i understood u have a means of controling a autogearbox, independent of the car and engine electronics?
If so, would your controller be able to control a 722.6xx wich came out of a w203 270 CDI, when installed in a w124 126, with a 605 N/A engine converted to STD with a PES5 60C320 RS 21 injection pump?
If so , is this controler able to control the gearbox in the same order of work expected from a manual gearbox, i mean shifting up und down , WHEN I WANT, with the exception of reverse?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
FD,
Powered by tractor fuel
12-16-2014, 08:14 AM
#95
As i understood u have a means of controling a autogearbox, independent of the car and engine electronics?
If so, would your controller be able to control a 722.6xx wich came out of a w203 270 CDI, when installed in a w124 126, with a 605 N/A engine converted to STD with a PES5 60C320 RS 21 injection pump?
If so , is this controler able to control the gearbox in the same order of work expected from a manual gearbox, i mean shifting up und down , WHEN I WANT, with the exception of reverse?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
[/quote]
Hi Barrote
Yes to all.
You can run it in automatic, if you want. or shift to manual, where you deside when to shift up and down.
you can use the paddle input for manual, or microswitches to give up / down shift commands.
This post was last modified: 12-16-2014, 08:17 AM by olefejer.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
Good days Mr Olejefer,
As i understood u have a means of controling a autogearbox, independent of the car and engine electronics?
If so, would your controller be able to control a 722.6xx wich came out of a w203 270 CDI, when installed in a w124 126, with a 605 N/A engine converted to STD with a PES5 60C320 RS 21 injection pump?
If so , is this controler able to control the gearbox in the same order of work expected from a manual gearbox, i mean shifting up und down , WHEN I WANT, with the exception of reverse?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
[/quote]
Hi Barrote
Yes to all.
You can run it in automatic, if you want. or shift to manual, where you deside when to shift up and down.
you can use the paddle input for manual, or microswitches to give up / down shift commands.
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
12-16-2014, 06:11 PM
#97
(12-16-2014, 04:34 PM)barrote hy,Hi
i see... that interest´s me a lot. can u inlight me what kind of hardware are talking about, and how will i acomodate it in my vehicle?
and above all how many euros i have to spend to have my hands on that?
This is the hardware
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_WiB...QHUNI/edit
PM send regarding price
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(12-16-2014, 04:34 PM)barrote hy,Hi
i see... that interest´s me a lot
and above all how many euros i have to spend to have my hands on that?
This is the hardware
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_WiB...QHUNI/edit
PM send regarding price
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
12-19-2014, 09:31 AM
#98
87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
I though I saw that you can find a shifter where the tiptronic works to shift. I grabbed a w220 shifter but it has an 8 pin plug and not the 10. Anyone know what shifter I need or if I can get this one to work?
87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
12-19-2014, 12:32 PM
#99
(12-19-2014, 09:31 AM)TurboTim I though I saw that you can find a shifter where the tiptronic works to shift. I grabbed a w220 shifter but it has an 8 pin plug and not the 10. Anyone know what shifter I need or if I can get this one to work?Hi Tim
The Only one working rigth away is the PRND4321 type, this has a 10 pin plug where i get information on the position.
But if you set up the Controller to NO GearLever, then the controller can still find out if you are in P/N OR R/D, that is just enogth to have a working system.
Then you can take the GearLever apart and mount 2 microswitches 1 for + upshift and 1 for - downshift, and then connect them to the manual input on controller, that can work, but a bit difficult.
I my oppinion paddle make more sence ;-)
This post was last modified: 12-19-2014, 12:33 PM by olefejer.
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(12-19-2014, 09:31 AM)TurboTim I though I saw that you can find a shifter where the tiptronic works to shift. I grabbed a w220 shifter but it has an 8 pin plug and not the 10. Anyone know what shifter I need or if I can get this one to work?Hi Tim
The Only one working rigth away is the PRND4321 type, this has a 10 pin plug where i get information on the position.
But if you set up the Controller to NO GearLever, then the controller can still find out if you are in P/N OR R/D, that is just enogth to have a working system.
Then you can take the GearLever apart and mount 2 microswitches 1 for + upshift and 1 for - downshift, and then connect them to the manual input on controller, that can work, but a bit difficult.
I my oppinion paddle make more sence ;-)
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