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Keino
GT2256V

151
10-03-2014, 01:55 PM #1
Hi!
Running 617.952 with 7.5mm 150cc dieselmeken M pump + borgwarner s200g with 1.7 bar boost pressure.

Gonna need a stronger clutch. Ideas?

Thankful for any input Rolleyes
Keino
10-03-2014, 01:55 PM #1

Hi!
Running 617.952 with 7.5mm 150cc dieselmeken M pump + borgwarner s200g with 1.7 bar boost pressure.

Gonna need a stronger clutch. Ideas?

Thankful for any input Rolleyes

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
10-03-2014, 03:26 PM #2
Clutchnet.com can make you one... That's where I got the one for my 603 car. They're here in California though but I'm sure they would ship international if you needed.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
10-03-2014, 03:26 PM #2

Clutchnet.com can make you one... That's where I got the one for my 603 car. They're here in California though but I'm sure they would ship international if you needed.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

Keino
GT2256V

151
10-03-2014, 03:32 PM #3
(10-03-2014, 03:26 PM)capflya Clutchnet.com can make you one... That's where I got the one for my 603 car. They're here in California though but I'm sure they would ship international if you needed.


Yeah I saw a link for their site, thats what got me thinking actually.
They make customs?
International shipping is highly needed Big Grin
Thanks for tip!
This post was last modified: 10-03-2014, 03:35 PM by Keino.
Keino
10-03-2014, 03:32 PM #3

(10-03-2014, 03:26 PM)capflya Clutchnet.com can make you one... That's where I got the one for my 603 car. They're here in California though but I'm sure they would ship international if you needed.


Yeah I saw a link for their site, thats what got me thinking actually.
They make customs?
International shipping is highly needed Big Grin
Thanks for tip!

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
10-05-2014, 12:52 PM #4
Yeah, I believe they can make whatever you want. I got the "red" package for a 2.3-16 since I'm going to use that flywheel on my car. Enough for 400hp or so but I have a feeling I might run into trans issues with the 410 I have before the clutch gives way. I need to get my IP built anyways so I'm a ways off from actually needing this clutch.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
10-05-2014, 12:52 PM #4

Yeah, I believe they can make whatever you want. I got the "red" package for a 2.3-16 since I'm going to use that flywheel on my car. Enough for 400hp or so but I have a feeling I might run into trans issues with the 410 I have before the clutch gives way. I need to get my IP built anyways so I'm a ways off from actually needing this clutch.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

Keino
GT2256V

151
10-05-2014, 01:35 PM #5
He is able to create what I need Smile

It's been ordered and will take 2 weeks to make it. (Stronger pressure plate + clutch)

Thank you very much for this tip.

Will post back here once i get it
Keino
10-05-2014, 01:35 PM #5

He is able to create what I need Smile

It's been ordered and will take 2 weeks to make it. (Stronger pressure plate + clutch)

Thank you very much for this tip.

Will post back here once i get it

Keino
GT2256V

151
11-11-2014, 01:39 PM #6
So you guys succesfully ordered from clutchnet?

"Oleg" has stopped answering my mails since halloween
The clutchkit was supposed to get shipped and I would recieve a trackingnumber.
Getting a bit anxious that he might have scammed me. Does not feel good atleast Undecided
Shit's already been paid like 4-5 weeks back.

Anyone with positive feedback from this guy/guys?
Keino
11-11-2014, 01:39 PM #6

So you guys succesfully ordered from clutchnet?

"Oleg" has stopped answering my mails since halloween
The clutchkit was supposed to get shipped and I would recieve a trackingnumber.
Getting a bit anxious that he might have scammed me. Does not feel good atleast Undecided
Shit's already been paid like 4-5 weeks back.

Anyone with positive feedback from this guy/guys?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-11-2014, 02:58 PM #7
Same experience I had. My stuff did eventually arrive.
raysorenson
11-11-2014, 02:58 PM #7

Same experience I had. My stuff did eventually arrive.

Duncansport
Holset

526
11-11-2014, 08:12 PM #8
(11-11-2014, 01:39 PM)Keino So you guys succesfully ordered from clutchnet?

"Oleg" has stopped answering my mails since halloween
The clutchkit was supposed to get shipped and I would recieve a trackingnumber.
Getting a bit anxious that he might have scammed me. Does not feel good atleast Undecided
Shit's already been paid like 4-5 weeks back.

Anyone with positive feedback from this guy/guys?

I SENT a clutch to be modified and it came back to me in two months, but good luck with these guys. A bit of googling will let you know their service is a big rough....
Duncansport
11-11-2014, 08:12 PM #8

(11-11-2014, 01:39 PM)Keino So you guys succesfully ordered from clutchnet?

"Oleg" has stopped answering my mails since halloween
The clutchkit was supposed to get shipped and I would recieve a trackingnumber.
Getting a bit anxious that he might have scammed me. Does not feel good atleast Undecided
Shit's already been paid like 4-5 weeks back.

Anyone with positive feedback from this guy/guys?

I SENT a clutch to be modified and it came back to me in two months, but good luck with these guys. A bit of googling will let you know their service is a big rough....

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-12-2014, 05:41 AM #9
Ohhh man, you should just have ordered it from us and in Swedish to Smile

   

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-12-2014, 05:41 AM #9

Ohhh man, you should just have ordered it from us and in Swedish to Smile

   


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Keino
GT2256V

151
11-12-2014, 06:23 AM #10
Thanks for the replies.
Having my hopes up for an arrival soon!
This post was last modified: 11-12-2014, 06:23 AM by Keino.
Keino
11-12-2014, 06:23 AM #10

Thanks for the replies.
Having my hopes up for an arrival soon!

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-01-2014, 12:41 PM #11
Still no clutchkit....

Ordered it 5th Oct and it should take him 2 weeks to make it.
Shipping from us usually takes 2 weeks = It should have been here by now.

The man simply wont reply to emails.

Suggestions on how to proceed with this?
Keino
12-01-2014, 12:41 PM #11

Still no clutchkit....

Ordered it 5th Oct and it should take him 2 weeks to make it.
Shipping from us usually takes 2 weeks = It should have been here by now.

The man simply wont reply to emails.

Suggestions on how to proceed with this?

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
12-01-2014, 06:11 PM #12
Maybe try to call him? Should be some web calling service you could use so it's free/cheap. If you can't get through and he's not responding I'd file a claim with the card company for a refund then buy a clutch from F.R.A.S



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
12-01-2014, 06:11 PM #12

Maybe try to call him? Should be some web calling service you could use so it's free/cheap. If you can't get through and he's not responding I'd file a claim with the card company for a refund then buy a clutch from F.R.A.S




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
12-01-2014, 10:23 PM #13
I never got anyone to answer the phone there when I tried.
raysorenson
12-01-2014, 10:23 PM #13

I never got anyone to answer the phone there when I tried.

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-03-2014, 02:43 AM #14
I cheked my paypal transaction reciept.
There I found another email to clutchnet it was something like clutchnet.sales@ something something.....

Emailed there yesterday and asked where my package was.
Now I got the trackingnumber emailed to me.
He is shipping it today.

Good to finally get an explanation.

I will update here when/if it arrives.

Thanks for input
Keino
12-03-2014, 02:43 AM #14

I cheked my paypal transaction reciept.
There I found another email to clutchnet it was something like clutchnet.sales@ something something.....

Emailed there yesterday and asked where my package was.
Now I got the trackingnumber emailed to me.
He is shipping it today.

Good to finally get an explanation.

I will update here when/if it arrives.

Thanks for input

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
12-10-2014, 01:43 AM #15
Got mine installed finally. Definitely feels strong... pedal is nice and firm and the clutch grabs quick. Going to take some adjustment since I haven't driven stick daily in a while.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
12-10-2014, 01:43 AM #15

Got mine installed finally. Definitely feels strong... pedal is nice and firm and the clutch grabs quick. Going to take some adjustment since I haven't driven stick daily in a while.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-29-2014, 06:56 AM #16
So, today the kit finally arrived.
Will not be installing it just yet. (snow covered roads, so no need for this yet)

Can upload a picture of the kit if someone is interested in seeing what i got.
Will post back here when it has been tested properly Smile
But so far so good.
Keino
12-29-2014, 06:56 AM #16

So, today the kit finally arrived.
Will not be installing it just yet. (snow covered roads, so no need for this yet)

Can upload a picture of the kit if someone is interested in seeing what i got.
Will post back here when it has been tested properly Smile
But so far so good.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
12-29-2014, 09:26 AM #17
Pictures please...

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
12-29-2014, 09:26 AM #17

Pictures please...


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-29-2014, 01:49 PM #18
(12-29-2014, 09:26 AM)F.R.A.S Pictures please...

It says Sachs on the pressureplate. Did some measuring and it seems it has the same sizes as original clutch, so hopefully it will be bolt on as promised. If you need more precise pictures of some part just say so.

[Image: 1zgt6y0.jpg]

[Image: t5g7de.jpg]
Keino
12-29-2014, 01:49 PM #18

(12-29-2014, 09:26 AM)F.R.A.S Pictures please...

It says Sachs on the pressureplate. Did some measuring and it seems it has the same sizes as original clutch, so hopefully it will be bolt on as promised. If you need more precise pictures of some part just say so.

[Image: 1zgt6y0.jpg]

[Image: t5g7de.jpg]

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
12-29-2014, 04:28 PM #19
Check the rivets on the PP spring... mine stuck out too far and it didn't allow the PP to be flush with the flywheel so I had to grind them down a bit to clear. There's still enough metal "mushroomed" over the hole to keep it secure but just something I experienced on mine. Hopefully yours is fine and you don't have to modify it.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
12-29-2014, 04:28 PM #19

Check the rivets on the PP spring... mine stuck out too far and it didn't allow the PP to be flush with the flywheel so I had to grind them down a bit to clear. There's still enough metal "mushroomed" over the hole to keep it secure but just something I experienced on mine. Hopefully yours is fine and you don't have to modify it.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

[486]
TA 0301

57
12-29-2014, 10:59 PM #20
(12-29-2014, 04:28 PM)capflya Check the rivets on the PP spring... mine stuck out too far and it didn't allow the PP to be flush with the flywheel so I had to grind them down a bit to clear. There's still enough metal "mushroomed" over the hole to keep it secure but just something I experienced on mine. Hopefully yours is fine and you don't have to modify it.
On the fixed cover end of the straps, or the iron movable piece?
The friction disc takes up a lot of space in there, if it is a flat flywheel.
[486]
12-29-2014, 10:59 PM #20

(12-29-2014, 04:28 PM)capflya Check the rivets on the PP spring... mine stuck out too far and it didn't allow the PP to be flush with the flywheel so I had to grind them down a bit to clear. There's still enough metal "mushroomed" over the hole to keep it secure but just something I experienced on mine. Hopefully yours is fine and you don't have to modify it.
On the fixed cover end of the straps, or the iron movable piece?
The friction disc takes up a lot of space in there, if it is a flat flywheel.

capflya
Dreaming of a VNT

309
12-30-2014, 12:18 AM #21
With the flywheel clamped down I could still move the clutch disc with my fingers. There were rivets around the outside edge that appear to hold the spring on somehow? I had to grind those down so the flywheel would bolt up flat to the flywheel and be able to grip the disc.



'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
capflya
12-30-2014, 12:18 AM #21

With the flywheel clamped down I could still move the clutch disc with my fingers. There were rivets around the outside edge that appear to hold the spring on somehow? I had to grind those down so the flywheel would bolt up flat to the flywheel and be able to grip the disc.




'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use Big Grin
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
12-30-2014, 08:04 AM #22
What number does it say on the PP???

215mm/228mm/240mm???

Just read the first posts in this thread... TAKE 2-WEEKS TO MAKE THE KIT??? This is damn spraypainted parts that the guy bought. Where is the parts that took two weeks to make??? And then it took like a month for you to get the parts.

I feel bad for you mate.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
12-30-2014, 08:04 AM #22

What number does it say on the PP???

215mm/228mm/240mm???

Just read the first posts in this thread... TAKE 2-WEEKS TO MAKE THE KIT??? This is damn spraypainted parts that the guy bought. Where is the parts that took two weeks to make??? And then it took like a month for you to get the parts.

I feel bad for you mate.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-30-2014, 10:49 AM #23
(12-30-2014, 08:04 AM)F.R.A.S What number does it say on the PP???

215mm/228mm/240mm???

Just read the first posts in this thread... TAKE 2-WEEKS TO MAKE THE KIT??? This is damn spraypainted parts that the guy bought. Where is the parts that took two weeks to make??? And then it took like a month for you to get the parts.

I feel bad for you mate.

The reason why it would take so long time is because Quote: "One more step to finish the pressure plate is to properly heat treat the diaphragm and after that it's ready to be shipped.
I can not speed up the 3 stage heat treating process"

Anyhow its 215mm

On the pp i can read:
TYPM200X M215

Good/bad?
Keino
12-30-2014, 10:49 AM #23

(12-30-2014, 08:04 AM)F.R.A.S What number does it say on the PP???

215mm/228mm/240mm???

Just read the first posts in this thread... TAKE 2-WEEKS TO MAKE THE KIT??? This is damn spraypainted parts that the guy bought. Where is the parts that took two weeks to make??? And then it took like a month for you to get the parts.

I feel bad for you mate.

The reason why it would take so long time is because Quote: "One more step to finish the pressure plate is to properly heat treat the diaphragm and after that it's ready to be shipped.
I can not speed up the 3 stage heat treating process"

Anyhow its 215mm

On the pp i can read:
TYPM200X M215

Good/bad?

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
12-30-2014, 05:34 PM #24
Alright my friend you got hustled...

The m200x is the stock PP and a Sachs PP does not need any work to it.

Check this out:

LINK

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
12-30-2014, 05:34 PM #24

Alright my friend you got hustled...

The m200x is the stock PP and a Sachs PP does not need any work to it.

Check this out:

LINK


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Duncansport
Holset

526
12-30-2014, 07:35 PM #25
F.R.A.S- Thank you for your informative posts and commitment to this side of the sport? I truly wish your business great success!
Also as soon as my 9.5 clutch poops the bed ill be sure to contact you! Who knows maybe ill have blown up my .430 by then..
Duncansport
12-30-2014, 07:35 PM #25

F.R.A.S- Thank you for your informative posts and commitment to this side of the sport? I truly wish your business great success!
Also as soon as my 9.5 clutch poops the bed ill be sure to contact you! Who knows maybe ill have blown up my .430 by then..

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-31-2014, 08:36 AM #26
Although I agree that it indeed is a sachs pp, he must've done something custom about it?
Does anyone have more pictures of such a PP so we can compare pictures?

Thanks for all the input!
Keino
12-31-2014, 08:36 AM #26

Although I agree that it indeed is a sachs pp, he must've done something custom about it?
Does anyone have more pictures of such a PP so we can compare pictures?

Thanks for all the input!

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
12-31-2014, 08:58 AM #27
I'm sorry that the news where bad Keino. And to be true I don't see the point in dismantling a PP and rebuild it when Sachs have stronger PP available for almost any setup. And 215mm is a super weak setup to start with.

Here is a bigger picture for you...

[Image: 1000x1000.jpg]

I truly hate hustlers!!!

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
12-31-2014, 08:58 AM #27

I'm sorry that the news where bad Keino. And to be true I don't see the point in dismantling a PP and rebuild it when Sachs have stronger PP available for almost any setup. And 215mm is a super weak setup to start with.

Here is a bigger picture for you...

[Image: 1000x1000.jpg]

I truly hate hustlers!!!


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
12-31-2014, 10:16 AM #28
Oleg has been pretty bad about slow turnaround over the last couple of years and his communication is almost non-existent at times, but that's about the worst you can say about him. For those reasons I can't recommend doing business with him. I don't think he's a thief or a liar.

If you google clutchnet a little or talk to Oleg (assuming he'll ever answer the phone again), you'll find that he's pretty open about modifying stock pressure plates. He probably moves the pressure plate fulcrum, like everyone else, to increase clamping force.
raysorenson
12-31-2014, 10:16 AM #28

Oleg has been pretty bad about slow turnaround over the last couple of years and his communication is almost non-existent at times, but that's about the worst you can say about him. For those reasons I can't recommend doing business with him. I don't think he's a thief or a liar.

If you google clutchnet a little or talk to Oleg (assuming he'll ever answer the phone again), you'll find that he's pretty open about modifying stock pressure plates. He probably moves the pressure plate fulcrum, like everyone else, to increase clamping force.

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-31-2014, 12:58 PM #29
The differences I can find would be in the center, the splines look different.
He remanufactured an old sachs with new goods?
Also, I cant find the "Germany" anywhere. Maybe he grinded that part out? But cant see any signs of that.
[Image: 2h5r3mw.jpg]

Would like to compare the inside aswell. Anyone got a picture?
[Image: 16hufyo.jpg]
Keino
12-31-2014, 12:58 PM #29

The differences I can find would be in the center, the splines look different.
He remanufactured an old sachs with new goods?
Also, I cant find the "Germany" anywhere. Maybe he grinded that part out? But cant see any signs of that.
[Image: 2h5r3mw.jpg]

Would like to compare the inside aswell. Anyone got a picture?
[Image: 16hufyo.jpg]

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
12-31-2014, 05:42 PM #30
Keino that doesn't look like a high spine count on the disk? Should be a 26 spline or something like that, right? I have a 6 puck sinter clutch like the one you have, its pretty horrible to drive on IMO.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
12-31-2014, 05:42 PM #30

Keino that doesn't look like a high spine count on the disk? Should be a 26 spline or something like that, right? I have a 6 puck sinter clutch like the one you have, its pretty horrible to drive on IMO.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Keino
GT2256V

151
12-31-2014, 05:50 PM #31
(12-31-2014, 05:42 PM)winmutt Keino that doesn't look like a high spine count on the disk? Should be a 26 spline or something like that, right? I have a 6 puck sinter clutch like the one you have, its pretty horrible to drive on IMO.

Im using an old 4 speed gearbox. So it should be 10 splines. Wich it is.
Well, I'll see how it is to drive with @ spring. Tongue
Keino
12-31-2014, 05:50 PM #31

(12-31-2014, 05:42 PM)winmutt Keino that doesn't look like a high spine count on the disk? Should be a 26 spline or something like that, right? I have a 6 puck sinter clutch like the one you have, its pretty horrible to drive on IMO.

Im using an old 4 speed gearbox. So it should be 10 splines. Wich it is.
Well, I'll see how it is to drive with @ spring. Tongue

MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-01-2015, 08:05 AM #32
Keino maby this will be an interesting thing for you?

Sachs 240mm with flywheel, clutch and pp

   

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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)
MrHope
01-01-2015, 08:05 AM #32

Keino maby this will be an interesting thing for you?

Sachs 240mm with flywheel, clutch and pp

   


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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)

Keino
GT2256V

151
01-01-2015, 08:19 AM #33
(01-01-2015, 08:05 AM)MrHope Keino maby this will be an interesting thing for you?
Sachs 240mm with flywheel, clutch and pp

Looks interesting. Flywheel fits om617?
Custom made?
Ever used it yourself?
Keino
01-01-2015, 08:19 AM #33

(01-01-2015, 08:05 AM)MrHope Keino maby this will be an interesting thing for you?
Sachs 240mm with flywheel, clutch and pp

Looks interesting. Flywheel fits om617?
Custom made?
Ever used it yourself?

MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-02-2015, 03:07 AM #34
(01-01-2015, 08:19 AM)Keino
(01-01-2015, 08:05 AM)MrHope Keino maby this will be an interesting thing for you?
Sachs 240mm with flywheel, clutch and pp

Looks interesting. Flywheel fits om617?
Custom made?
Ever used it yourself?

flywheel would fit 617 if you have 12bolts. and big splines.

I have had it on a m110 2,8 engine.
its a rare mercedes original part!

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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)
MrHope
01-02-2015, 03:07 AM #34

(01-01-2015, 08:19 AM)Keino
(01-01-2015, 08:05 AM)MrHope Keino maby this will be an interesting thing for you?
Sachs 240mm with flywheel, clutch and pp

Looks interesting. Flywheel fits om617?
Custom made?
Ever used it yourself?

flywheel would fit 617 if you have 12bolts. and big splines.

I have had it on a m110 2,8 engine.
its a rare mercedes original part!


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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)

Keino
GT2256V

151
01-02-2015, 06:38 AM #35
Never heard of such a thing Tongue
Did you have a 5 speed getrag attached to it?

Gonna do some research about this.
But if it fits im very interested! Smile
Keino
01-02-2015, 06:38 AM #35

Never heard of such a thing Tongue
Did you have a 5 speed getrag attached to it?

Gonna do some research about this.
But if it fits im very interested! Smile

MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-02-2015, 12:33 PM #36
yes fivespeed getrag, but i did sell the gearbox... this is all that is left from it. its also lighter than the 300D flywheel

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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)
MrHope
01-02-2015, 12:33 PM #36

yes fivespeed getrag, but i did sell the gearbox... this is all that is left from it. its also lighter than the 300D flywheel


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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
01-03-2015, 03:22 PM #37
280GE setup? I've been looking into that, but the flywheel looks far too small for a diesel, 228mm clutch with 617.931 flywheel looks more promising


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
01-03-2015, 03:22 PM #37

280GE setup? I've been looking into that, but the flywheel looks far too small for a diesel, 228mm clutch with 617.931 flywheel looks more promising



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




Keino
GT2256V

151
01-03-2015, 06:32 PM #38
(01-03-2015, 03:22 PM)NZScott 280GE setup? I've been looking into that, but the flywheel looks far too small for a diesel, 228mm clutch with 617.931 flywheel looks more promising

Where do you find .931 ? G wagen also?
Keino
01-03-2015, 06:32 PM #38

(01-03-2015, 03:22 PM)NZScott 280GE setup? I've been looking into that, but the flywheel looks far too small for a diesel, 228mm clutch with 617.931 flywheel looks more promising

Where do you find .931 ? G wagen also?

NZScott
HX30W 73/44mm

398
01-03-2015, 07:27 PM #39
(01-03-2015, 06:32 PM)Keino
(01-03-2015, 03:22 PM)NZScott 280GE setup? I've been looking into that, but the flywheel looks far too small for a diesel, 228mm clutch with 617.931 flywheel looks more promising

Where do you find .931 ? G wagen also?

Yes the 300GD with the 617.931 engine has the lighter flywheel than standard .912 but still heavier than the OM616 flywheels I think.

I'm trying to track down one of these flywheels and clutch kit.


1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




NZScott
01-03-2015, 07:27 PM #39

(01-03-2015, 06:32 PM)Keino
(01-03-2015, 03:22 PM)NZScott 280GE setup? I've been looking into that, but the flywheel looks far too small for a diesel, 228mm clutch with 617.931 flywheel looks more promising

Where do you find .931 ? G wagen also?

Yes the 300GD with the 617.931 engine has the lighter flywheel than standard .912 but still heavier than the OM616 flywheels I think.

I'm trying to track down one of these flywheels and clutch kit.



1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km

1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD




Keino
GT2256V

151
01-04-2015, 04:42 PM #40
I emailed Oleg and asked about the pressureplate being a sachs and if it was stock. Reply was:
"We always use original pressure plates and change the diaphragm only to increase the pressure."
This post was last modified: 01-04-2015, 04:43 PM by Keino.
Keino
01-04-2015, 04:42 PM #40

I emailed Oleg and asked about the pressureplate being a sachs and if it was stock. Reply was:
"We always use original pressure plates and change the diaphragm only to increase the pressure."

MrHope
GT2256V

112
01-04-2015, 04:51 PM #41
i have 300GD flywheel to if its interesting, but the G-stuff is alot more expensive than w123 parts...
This post was last modified: 01-04-2015, 04:51 PM by MrHope.

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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
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MrHope
01-04-2015, 04:51 PM #41

i have 300GD flywheel to if its interesting, but the G-stuff is alot more expensive than w123 parts...


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W460 300GD with om605 Turbo 6mm pump Build Thread!
W124 300D 1985 (daily driver)

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-06-2015, 10:03 AM #42
I missed this was for a 617. I bought the 300GD FW + clutch + pp from MBUSA new for $1200. IIRC its 9". There is a link around here that lists all the pressure plates and their pressure for the 70s and early 80s era benzes.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-06-2015, 10:03 AM #42

I missed this was for a 617. I bought the 300GD FW + clutch + pp from MBUSA new for $1200. IIRC its 9". There is a link around here that lists all the pressure plates and their pressure for the 70s and early 80s era benzes.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-06-2015, 10:04 AM #43
(01-06-2015, 10:03 AM)winmutt I missed this was for a 617. I bought the 300GD FW + clutch + pp from MBUSA new for $1200. IIRC its 9". There is a link around here that lists all the pressure plates and their pressure for the 70s and early 80s era benzes.

Never thought about it but maybe those pressure plates work on the later models???
Wow can't believe I never checked that

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-06-2015, 10:04 AM #43

(01-06-2015, 10:03 AM)winmutt I missed this was for a 617. I bought the 300GD FW + clutch + pp from MBUSA new for $1200. IIRC its 9". There is a link around here that lists all the pressure plates and their pressure for the 70s and early 80s era benzes.

Never thought about it but maybe those pressure plates work on the later models???
Wow can't believe I never checked that


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Keino
GT2256V

151
01-06-2015, 10:21 AM #44
I'd love to check out that link. Any idea where to search? Tongue
Keino
01-06-2015, 10:21 AM #44

I'd love to check out that link. Any idea where to search? Tongue

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
01-06-2015, 10:30 AM #45
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...te-upgrade

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
01-06-2015, 10:30 AM #45

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...te-upgrade


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Keino
GT2256V

151
01-06-2015, 10:36 AM #46
(01-06-2015, 10:30 AM)winmutt http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...te-upgrade

Thanks Smile
Keino
01-06-2015, 10:36 AM #46

(01-06-2015, 10:30 AM)winmutt http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...te-upgrade

Thanks Smile

Keino
GT2256V

151
04-10-2015, 01:27 PM #47
Installed the clutch kit last week.

It feels really nice to drive it. Almost smooter starts now compared to the original clutch


However. It slips for a small moment when going pedal to the metal.   After that it holds just fine.   Is that normal for a sinter clutch?
Never driven with one before. Smile
Keino
04-10-2015, 01:27 PM #47

Installed the clutch kit last week.

It feels really nice to drive it. Almost smooter starts now compared to the original clutch


However. It slips for a small moment when going pedal to the metal.   After that it holds just fine.   Is that normal for a sinter clutch?
Never driven with one before. Smile

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
04-10-2015, 01:53 PM #48
Not in my experience. Quite the opposite. I would get alot of chatter as it grabbed and let go and grabbed again.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-10-2015, 01:53 PM #48

Not in my experience. Quite the opposite. I would get alot of chatter as it grabbed and let go and grabbed again.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Keino
GT2256V

151
04-10-2015, 02:17 PM #49
(04-10-2015, 01:53 PM)winmutt I would get alot of chatter as it grabbed and let go and grabbed again.


Sorry if my english isn't that good.

But by this you mean yours never slipped? Huh
Keino
04-10-2015, 02:17 PM #49

(04-10-2015, 01:53 PM)winmutt I would get alot of chatter as it grabbed and let go and grabbed again.


Sorry if my english isn't that good.

But by this you mean yours never slipped? Huh

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
04-11-2015, 05:09 AM #50
If a sinter clutch slips something is wrong. They NEVER slips. When getting from a stand still it can produce some shatter (hugga lite in Swedish för att det greppar så jävligt). But NEVER EVER slip.

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F.R.A.S
04-11-2015, 05:09 AM #50

If a sinter clutch slips something is wrong. They NEVER slips. When getting from a stand still it can produce some shatter (hugga lite in Swedish för att det greppar så jävligt). But NEVER EVER slip.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

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