Hx40w in om605
Hx40w in om605
07-17-2015, 02:49 PM
#1
I rode a hx40w with a garrett exhaust Hausing ar84 (something between 11 and 12cm Holset Hausing) in my om605 with 7.5mm elements ...
But it does not work, in the first, second, and almost all the third speed will hardly turbocharged ...
You think it's normal to be like this?
This post was last modified: 07-17-2015, 04:00 PM by bruno_pinho.
bruno_pinho
07-17-2015, 02:49 PM #1A question to see what you think ....
I rode a hx40w with a garrett exhaust Hausing ar84 (something between 11 and 12cm Holset Hausing) in my om605 with 7.5mm elements ...
But it does not work, in the first, second, and almost all the third speed will hardly turbocharged ...
You think it's normal to be like this?
07-18-2015, 01:25 AM
#3
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
Yea remember it is a big turbo for a 2.5L - think they're meant for more like 8L engines???
1978 300D, 373,000km... OM617.912 with a Holset HX30W, 7.5mm IP, 711.113 5 speed (project car, 7 years off the road and counting ;/)
1977 250 270,000km (parts car)
1977 300D (ex 280) 500,000km
1981 240D 498,000
1975 HJ45 ???,000
2001 2.8TD Rodeo 4x2 - 456,000 - DD
07-18-2015, 08:52 AM
#4
(07-18-2015, 01:25 AM)NZScott Yea remember it is a big turbo for a 2.5L - think they're meant for more like 8L engines???
My h1c which is similar size on 605 spools late but produces around 25psi at 4000rpm
This is with standard elements and just resistor mod.
7.5mm elements should be providing plenty of fuel to get that bad boy spinning.
This post was last modified: 07-18-2015, 08:52 AM by Booster.
(07-18-2015, 01:25 AM)NZScott Yea remember it is a big turbo for a 2.5L - think they're meant for more like 8L engines???
My h1c which is similar size on 605 spools late but produces around 25psi at 4000rpm
This is with standard elements and just resistor mod.
7.5mm elements should be providing plenty of fuel to get that bad boy spinning.
07-18-2015, 09:33 AM
#6
I knew it would be lag, but do not think normal that evil can put pressure on first gears ..
bruno_pinho
07-18-2015, 09:33 AM #6The turbo had a housing 18cm exhaust then applied a garret of 84ar which is near 11cm Holset exhaust housing ...
I knew it would be lag, but do not think normal that evil can put pressure on first gears ..
07-18-2015, 09:43 AM
#7
(07-18-2015, 08:54 AM)Booster Have you got a boost gauge hooked up? What's the wastegate doing? Tried keeping it shut and seeing what it does?
I just changed the turbo he had the HX40, the car was pulling very well with the turbo he had, but how I spent 7mm elements (dieselkontor) to 7.5mm (dieselmeken) I've become much more debit I looked for a larger turbo but not It's going fine ...
bruno_pinho
07-18-2015, 09:43 AM #7(07-18-2015, 08:54 AM)Booster Have you got a boost gauge hooked up? What's the wastegate doing? Tried keeping it shut and seeing what it does?
I just changed the turbo he had the HX40, the car was pulling very well with the turbo he had, but how I spent 7mm elements (dieselkontor) to 7.5mm (dieselmeken) I've become much more debit I looked for a larger turbo but not It's going fine ...
07-18-2015, 09:59 AM
#8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKRdeCDpGWw
bruno_pinho
07-18-2015, 09:59 AM #8The car was thus with the old turbo 2.5bar with the elements of 7.5mm..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKRdeCDpGWw
07-18-2015, 02:23 PM
#9
9cm^2 - .48 A/R
12cm^2 - .63 A/R
16cm^2 - .83 A/R
18cm^2 - 1.00 A/R
9cm2 = 0.65 A/R
12cm2 = 0.89 A/R
16cm2 = 1.13 A/R
18cm2 = 1.37 A/R
bruno_pinho
07-18-2015, 02:23 PM #9which of these two tables think is right?
9cm^2 - .48 A/R
12cm^2 - .63 A/R
16cm^2 - .83 A/R
18cm^2 - 1.00 A/R
9cm2 = 0.65 A/R
12cm2 = 0.89 A/R
16cm2 = 1.13 A/R
18cm2 = 1.37 A/R
07-19-2015, 11:25 PM
#10
(07-18-2015, 02:23 PM)bruno_pinho which of these two tables think is right?
9cm^2 - .48 A/R
12cm^2 - .63 A/R
16cm^2 - .83 A/R
18cm^2 - 1.00 A/R
9cm2 = 0.65 A/R
12cm2 = 0.89 A/R
16cm2 = 1.13 A/R
18cm2 = 1.37 A/R
They don't directly convert, they are different measurements.
A 9cm^2 hx30 might be something like .65 a/r
while a 22cm^2 hx80 might be 1.2 a/r
(07-18-2015, 02:23 PM)bruno_pinho which of these two tables think is right?
9cm^2 - .48 A/R
12cm^2 - .63 A/R
16cm^2 - .83 A/R
18cm^2 - 1.00 A/R
9cm2 = 0.65 A/R
12cm2 = 0.89 A/R
16cm2 = 1.13 A/R
18cm2 = 1.37 A/R
They don't directly convert, they are different measurements.
A 9cm^2 hx30 might be something like .65 a/r
while a 22cm^2 hx80 might be 1.2 a/r
07-20-2015, 07:36 AM
#11
(07-19-2015, 11:25 PM)[486](07-18-2015, 02:23 PM)bruno_pinho which of these two tables think is right?
9cm^2 - .48 A/R
12cm^2 - .63 A/R
16cm^2 - .83 A/R
18cm^2 - 1.00 A/R
9cm2 = 0.65 A/R
12cm2 = 0.89 A/R
16cm2 = 1.13 A/R
18cm2 = 1.37 A/R
They don't directly convert, they are different measurements.
A 9cm^2 hx30 might be something like .65 a/r
while a 22cm^2 hx80 might be 1.2 a/r
What if I have a hx35 with 12cm exhaust housing which I have AR?
This post was last modified: 07-20-2015, 07:37 AM by bruno_pinho.
bruno_pinho
07-20-2015, 07:36 AM #11(07-19-2015, 11:25 PM)[486](07-18-2015, 02:23 PM)bruno_pinho which of these two tables think is right?
9cm^2 - .48 A/R
12cm^2 - .63 A/R
16cm^2 - .83 A/R
18cm^2 - 1.00 A/R
9cm2 = 0.65 A/R
12cm2 = 0.89 A/R
16cm2 = 1.13 A/R
18cm2 = 1.37 A/R
They don't directly convert, they are different measurements.
A 9cm^2 hx30 might be something like .65 a/r
while a 22cm^2 hx80 might be 1.2 a/r
What if I have a hx35 with 12cm exhaust housing which I have AR?
07-21-2015, 12:02 PM
#13
(07-20-2015, 04:10 PM)barrote camarada bruno ,
adquira um gt23V(C30) e aplique uma MSF 63, isso deve resolver o seu problema.
sorry for the mother language. was just saying that holsets are crap....
one gt23v to make a car to use day by day with 230 to 250cv believe give, but to do more than 350cv which is what I want to do is out of the question, is too small ...
bruno_pinho
07-21-2015, 12:02 PM #13(07-20-2015, 04:10 PM)barrote camarada bruno ,
adquira um gt23V(C30) e aplique uma MSF 63, isso deve resolver o seu problema.
sorry for the mother language. was just saying that holsets are crap....
one gt23v to make a car to use day by day with 230 to 250cv believe give, but to do more than 350cv which is what I want to do is out of the question, is too small ...
07-22-2015, 06:15 AM
#14
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
How did you fit the small Garrett turbine housing without changing the turbine wheel? Surely the problem is your turbo still has a turbine wheel to suit an 18cm2 housing (i.e. still far too big). this is evidenced by your lack of boost until third gear.. THIRD!
Installed:
OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. [/i]
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